Originally posted by: BarneyFife
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Interesting...
I'm not going to argue whether it was right or wrong, why is the government lying about it?? They turned that plane crash into the biggest propoganda with the "lets roll" and the crew overpowering the terrorists.
Originally posted by: alchemize
They have the "black box" cockpit recordings, and taped telephone conversations. I think this was just a misstatement.
Originally posted by: Darkhawk28
Originally posted by: alchemize
They have the "black box" cockpit recordings, and taped telephone conversations. I think this was just a misstatement.
I'm sure they do, but just curious... do you have a link?
I believe the FBI has never released them to the public, but that victim's families were allowed to hear them.Originally posted by: Darkhawk28
Originally posted by: alchemize
They have the "black box" cockpit recordings, and taped telephone conversations. I think this was just a misstatement.
I'm sure they do, but just curious... do you have a link?
Its full contents have not been made public. However, media reports of the tape indicate that the charge by the passengers and crew did take place. A woman can be heard pleading for her life at the start of the tape. This is thought to have been a flight attendant.
The tape was reported to have contained voices saying "Allahu Akbar" (Arabic for "God is great"), English shouts that included "Let's get them!" and "In the cockpit. If we don't, we'll die" then screaming and other sounds followed by silence. Sounds of crockery smashing have led to the belief that a food-trolley was used as a battering-ram to force the cockpit door open.
The hijackers themselves appear to have all retreated into the cockpit prior to the charge, and they can be heard praying, reassuring themselves, and discussing on separate occasions whether to use a fireaxe in the cockpit on those outside or to cut off the oxygen to quell the charge. Jarrah said "Is that it? Shall we finish it off?" Another hijacker replied "No. Not yet. When they all come, we finish it off." Jarrah later said "Is that it? I mean, shall we put it down?" to which another hijacker replied "Yes, put it in it, and pull it down." then later "Pull it down! Pull it down!"
The 9/11 Commission found from the recordings that, contrary to what many have believed, the passengers did not succeed in reaching the cockpit before the plane crashed.
There has been speculation that US authorities shot down Flight 93 to stop it reaching Washington. But the 9/11 Commission Report describes that the hijackers had decided to "finish it off" just before the plane crashed, and that the authority to shoot down passenger planes was not transmitted until after the flight had already crashed. This topic is covered under misinformation and rumors.
Originally posted by: alchemize
I believe the FBI has never released them to the public, but that victim's families were allowed to hear them.Originally posted by: Darkhawk28
Originally posted by: alchemize
They have the "black box" cockpit recordings, and taped telephone conversations. I think this was just a misstatement.
I'm sure they do, but just curious... do you have a link?
Here's more from Wik:
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Its full contents have not been made public. However, media reports of the tape indicate that the charge by the passengers and crew did take place. A woman can be heard pleading for her life at the start of the tape. This is thought to have been a flight attendant.
The tape was reported to have contained voices saying "Allahu Akbar" (Arabic for "God is great"), English shouts that included "Let's get them!" and "In the cockpit. If we don't, we'll die" then screaming and other sounds followed by silence. Sounds of crockery smashing have led to the belief that a food-trolley was used as a battering-ram to force the cockpit door open.
The hijackers themselves appear to have all retreated into the cockpit prior to the charge, and they can be heard praying, reassuring themselves, and discussing on separate occasions whether to use a fireaxe in the cockpit on those outside or to cut off the oxygen to quell the charge. Jarrah said "Is that it? Shall we finish it off?" Another hijacker replied "No. Not yet. When they all come, we finish it off." Jarrah later said "Is that it? I mean, shall we put it down?" to which another hijacker replied "Yes, put it in it, and pull it down." then later "Pull it down! Pull it down!"
The 9/11 Commission found from the recordings that, contrary to what many have believed, the passengers did not succeed in reaching the cockpit before the plane crashed.
There has been speculation that US authorities shot down Flight 93 to stop it reaching Washington. But the 9/11 Commission Report describes that the hijackers had decided to "finish it off" just before the plane crashed, and that the authority to shoot down passenger planes was not transmitted until after the flight had already crashed. This topic is covered under misinformation and rumors.
Originally posted by: ReiAyanami
to be fair, Rumsdum also said right before this Nov's elections that saddam was behind 9/11 and that we were still looking for him
Originally posted by: ntdz
Uhh..he never says we shot the plane down, he said the terrorists "shot it down" and just used poor word choices. The plane wasn't shot down by the terrorists, it was piloted down into the ground.
Originally posted by: halik
Originally posted by: ntdz
Uhh..he never says we shot the plane down, he said the terrorists "shot it down" and just used poor word choices. The plane wasn't shot down by the terrorists, it was piloted down into the ground.
yeah o/p has 0 reading comprehension.
Originally posted by: Gaard
Originally posted by: halik
Originally posted by: ntdz
Uhh..he never says we shot the plane down, he said the terrorists "shot it down" and just used poor word choices. The plane wasn't shot down by the terrorists, it was piloted down into the ground.
yeah o/p has 0 reading comprehension.
Where does the o/p say we shot it down?
Originally posted by: halik
Originally posted by: Gaard
Originally posted by: halik
Originally posted by: ntdz
Uhh..he never says we shot the plane down, he said the terrorists "shot it down" and just used poor word choices. The plane wasn't shot down by the terrorists, it was piloted down into the ground.
yeah o/p has 0 reading comprehension.
Where does the o/p say we shot it down?
op meaning the guy that wrote "Plane over PA was shot down on 9/11 Rumsfield says"
Originally posted by: BarneyFife
Originally posted by: halik
Originally posted by: Gaard
Originally posted by: halik
Originally posted by: ntdz
Uhh..he never says we shot the plane down, he said the terrorists "shot it down" and just used poor word choices. The plane wasn't shot down by the terrorists, it was piloted down into the ground.
yeah o/p has 0 reading comprehension.
Where does the o/p say we shot it down?
op meaning the guy that wrote "Plane over PA was shot down on 9/11 Rumsfield says"
Click on the link and tell me what the title says.
Originally posted by: BarneyFife
Originally posted by: halik
Originally posted by: Gaard
Originally posted by: halik
Originally posted by: ntdz
Uhh..he never says we shot the plane down, he said the terrorists "shot it down" and just used poor word choices. The plane wasn't shot down by the terrorists, it was piloted down into the ground.
yeah o/p has 0 reading comprehension.
Where does the o/p say we shot it down?
op meaning the guy that wrote "Plane over PA was shot down on 9/11 Rumsfield says"
Click on the link and tell me what the title says.
Originally posted by: halik
Originally posted by: BarneyFife
Originally posted by: halik
Originally posted by: Gaard
Originally posted by: halik
Originally posted by: ntdz
Uhh..he never says we shot the plane down, he said the terrorists "shot it down" and just used poor word choices. The plane wasn't shot down by the terrorists, it was piloted down into the ground.
yeah o/p has 0 reading comprehension.
Where does the o/p say we shot it down?
op meaning the guy that wrote "Plane over PA was shot down on 9/11 Rumsfield says"
Click on the link and tell me what the title says.
that's what i gathered after reading your post.... that we somehow shot it down. The converse (terrorists shot it down) doesnt make sense - as a terrorist you can't shoot down a plane you're on ...
Originally posted by: Gaard
Originally posted by: halik
Originally posted by: BarneyFife
Originally posted by: halik
Originally posted by: Gaard
Originally posted by: halik
Originally posted by: ntdz
Uhh..he never says we shot the plane down, he said the terrorists "shot it down" and just used poor word choices. The plane wasn't shot down by the terrorists, it was piloted down into the ground.
yeah o/p has 0 reading comprehension.
Where does the o/p say we shot it down?
op meaning the guy that wrote "Plane over PA was shot down on 9/11 Rumsfield says"
Click on the link and tell me what the title says.
that's what i gathered after reading your post.... that we somehow shot it down. The converse (terrorists shot it down) doesnt make sense - as a terrorist you can't shoot down a plane you're on ...
What were you saying about reading comprehension?
Originally posted by: alchemize
They have the "black box" cockpit recordings, and taped telephone conversations. I think this was just a misstatement.
Originally posted by: ntdz
Uhh..he never says we shot the plane down, he said the terrorists "shot it down" and just used poor word choices. The plane wasn't shot down by the terrorists, it was piloted down into the ground.
Originally posted by: DeeKnow
Originally posted by: ntdz
Uhh..he never says we shot the plane down, he said the terrorists "shot it down" and just used poor word choices. The plane wasn't shot down by the terrorists, it was piloted down into the ground.
oh really? the terrorists just decided they didn't feel like flying into more buildings that day and just 'piloted' the plain into the ground ???
Really? Oh, DeeKnow says the tapes should be released to the public to be endlessly played on FauxNews. I'll forward your suggestion to the FBI. I'm sure the victim's families won't mind one bit...and I'm sure if that happened nobody would accuse the administration of "taking advantage of emotions of 9/11" either.Originally posted by: DeeKnow
Originally posted by: alchemize
They have the "black box" cockpit recordings, and taped telephone conversations. I think this was just a misstatement.
only a portion of which was made available to a very select audience....
if all you have on that tape is your citizens heroically thwarting some lame terrorist's carefully laid out plans, I think you would be playing that tape endlessly on Faux news... not censoring it
Thinking obviously isn't the problem with you. It's the conclusions you appear to be reaching.don't people think for themselves any more??