Right, anyway.
onetwo27, tell us your system specs and resolution for your monitor. The 1GB GTX 460 is recommended. But if you game at below 1680x1050, you could surely get away from the 768MB version for less money. If you game above 1680x1050, get the 1GB for sure. If you game exactly at that resolution you could get either, but might as well get the 1GB unless you really want to save money.
The Radeon 5850 usually outperforms the GTX 460, but not by substantial amounts. If your budget allows it you could get the 5850 and generally see better performance, but it's of questionable value. The 5850 is usually at least 20% more expensive than the GTX 460 1GB, but the consensus appears to be that it's only 10% faster on average (correct me if I am wrong). So you get more performance per dollar on the 460 - and thus it is the recommended buy. The extra price difference can get you a couple PC games after all.
Also I want to point out that you are suggesting that he buy an nV card without having full details about his situation. That is fine and of course you are entitled to your opinion but the problem here is that had the situation been reversed(in terms of who makes the cards) would you be suggesting an ATi card? I want everyone on the forum to think long and hard about that one because really that is the issue.
I mean what would be the consequences to your status if you started suggesting that people buy the competition? It's obvious you can't do that.
My system spec as of now is a very low end system thats running a
9400GT GPU
intel core 2 duo E4500
3 gb DDr2 ram
Mobo D945gcnl Intel
Because of my card i cant raise my resolution cause it slows down the performance. I usually run it at 1152*864. I thought its seriously time for me to change my GPU and my entire cabby cause im into Animation also so would be needing a powerful rig.
All i have in mind is to upgrade my CPU step by step. So GPU first and then mobo and then etc..
an E4500 is really slow to be matched up to something like a gtx460 or faster. if you dont plan on getting a new cpu in the next few months then I see no point in spending over 200 bucks for a gpu in that system.My system spec as of now is a very low end system thats running a
9400GT GPU
intel core 2 duo E4500
3 gb DDr2 ram
Mobo D945gcnl Intel
Because of my card i cant raise my resolution cause it slows down the performance. I usually run it at 1152*864. I thought its seriously time for me to change my GPU and my entire cabby cause im into Animation also so would be needing a powerful rig.
All i have in mind is to upgrade my CPU step by step. So GPU first and then mobo and then etc..
Core 2 Duo means little in this case because even the lowly 1.8 E6300 is as fast or faster than his 2.2 E4400. so basically even my E8500 lowered to 1.6 would be as fast and good luck coming remotely close to pushing a gtx460 with that.e4500 isn't THAT bad. At least it's a Core2Duo. You will surely notice performance improvements over that 9400GT, but probably won't realize the full potential of the 460 or the 5850 until you upgrade the CPU. But doing the GPU first is a good start, then build up around it.
Well my good friend. I was operating under the assumption that pricing in India would be similar to pricing here in the US or Canada. My recommendation was under that assumption until the OP provided more details for his local pricing. I want everyone on the forum to think long and hard about that one because you are always trying to make more of something than it actually is. And as far as my "status" goes? I think it's just fine even if you don't. Take a long hard look at my recommendation AFTER I learned the OP's local pricing. I wan't you to make sure everyone on the forum sees it. After all, you should be as quick to defend me as you are to discredit me, unless there are other motives.
Have a good night.
I'm glad I was able to get you to do something as some kind of misguided attempt to prove me wrong. Keep up the good work then. Don't worry i'm always going to be around to point out any errors you might make so no chance of you making any bad recommendations in the future. I'm glad you think your status is just fine because if you didn't that would be quite HILARIOUS now wouldn't it!
no matter what res he plays at he will be cpu limited using a higher end gpu with an E4400. at 1152x864 it would just be exacerbated and really even a 5750 would be held back by quite a bit. I would probably grab the cheapest gt240 I could find with that cpu and low res. a gt240 has 96sp compared to the 16sp on the 9400gt plus all the other improvements. it would be a massive improvement over what he has now for sure.At 1152*864 you going to be CPU bottle necked. Investing that much on a GPU is not recommended, start from the ground up.
If you plan to play at that resolution even a 5750 should suffice.
I should have made my self even clear. I agree with you Toyota. My advice was for him to upgrade the rest of the system first rather than the GPU. He said it would be a step-by-step thing, so starting with GPU is not logical.
The argument of 460 VS 5850 is not relevant for OP's resolution unless, he is planning to upgrade his monitor.
well lets be realistic though. his system is quite old and he may not upgrade the rest of it for months. at this point he needs to upgrade it all now if thinking about using a $250-$300 gpu. if his monitor can only do 1280x960/1024 than something like a 5850 would be laughably wasted while he waits months to upgrade his cpu. not to mention that even faster cards for the same price could likely come out before he ever even upgrades the cpu anyway. btw if his monitor can only do 1280 for a max res then a 5850 isnt really that appropriate in the first place.He said he will be upgrading the rest of his computer, but he's doing the GPU first. So it really doesn't matter if the new card will be held back.
He also said he has to turn down his resolution, which would infer his monitor can do more than 1152x864. My guess would be his monitor does 1600x1200, but even if it can't I'd still recommend a 460 or 5850. They'll do better for more demanding games (like Crysis) even at 1280x1024.
At those prices he listed, I say he gets the 5850. But either card will do fine.
I got the impression that the OP needed to run at a lower res due to his current setup, not that it was his monitors native res. "Because of my card i cant raise my resolution cause it slows down the performance. I usually run it at 1152*864."
For the system listed above, I would say 4850 1GB/ GTS 250 1GB/ 5770 or a used 4870 1GB is a much better pairing.
well lets be realistic though. his system is quite old and he may not upgrade the rest of it for months. at this point he needs to upgrade it all now if thinking about using a $250-$300 gpu. if his monitor can only do 1280x960/1024 than something like a 5850 would be laughably wasted while he waits months to upgrade his cpu. not to mention that even faster cards for the same price could likely come out before he ever even upgrades the cpu anyway. btw if his monitor can only do 1280 for a max res then a 5850 isnt really that appropriate in the first place.
If it takes 10 months worth of savings for you to build a system, then do so after 10 months. Things change a lot in 10 months:
GPU: 5-7 months from now we have southern islands from AMD/ATI. Fermi should have a refresh in these 10 months too.
There is no point in buying components today for using it 10 months into the future.
Save the your money in a bank, India has one of the highest interest rates in the world so your savings will grow.
Use that money to buy newer/better/faster components in 2011.