Plans for when Biden loses?

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Unfortunately we have too many binary minds. That group of middling republicans will get absorbed into one or the other again. We can't wrap our simple minds around three parties.
 
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Like I said, the core of deplorables remains, Fox News included, but not only is the party as whole shrinking but it’s losing its intellectuals. Without them you just have a bunch of people screaming running around bumping into things. Trump is the bubble bursting and what’s left are a bunch of crazy people covered in puss. That will attract no one.

Mark my words and you can Lindsey graham them, trump will lose in a landslide not seen since Reagan and the Republican Party will continue to shrink until slowly fading away while a new Conservative party emerges. If I had to guess (this part don’t hold me to), I would guess the new party would consist of Lincoln project conservatives and moderate democrats. They’ll be more pro capitalism than the left, for small government (but not as extreme as republicans or liberals), and more like bush sr on foreign policy (pro patriot act, pro cia foreign intervention).

who knows, maybe there will be a reformation and a QAnon Republican wing. Basically where all the Trumpers go and they go back to what they've always done....complain & not vote

Maybe as above some conservative Democrats will join a newly formed Conservative party

Maybe 2024 they field a like able & competent candidate who get elected

who knows and it’s their job to figure it out.

We heard very similar speculation in 2016 and look what happened.
 

ivwshane

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Unfortunately we have too many binary minds. That group of middling republicans will get absorbed into one or the other again. We can't wrap our simple minds around three parties.

I’m guessing we will be seeing the beginning of the anti capitalist movement or those that don’t think capitalism is the answer or is the problem. It’s a super small voice (more like a murmur). That will eventually create two distinct camps/parties. By then you’ll be reading about the Republican Party only in history books.
 

ivwshane

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who knows, maybe there will be a reformation and a QAnon Republican wing. Basically where all the Trumpers go and they go back to what they've always done....complain & not vote

Maybe as above some conservative Democrats will join a newly formed Conservative party

Maybe 2024 they field a like able & competent candidate who get elected

who knows and it’s their job to figure it out.

We heard very similar speculation in 2016 and look what happened.

Well we already have that now so...

Republicans already have q-anon believers in its ranks and some have even ran on it publicly.

I’m guessing you will see some democrats defect to the new party (blue dog democrats come to mind for example) which would be a center right party as opposed to the right wing party the republicans have become.

But yes, overall the next few years (I’m guessing less than a decade based on how fast things are moving and amount crises we are facing) things are going to be messy and chaotic until things are settled.
 

Wreckem

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538 is now giving Biden 84/16 odds.
And remember folks these are his odds on Election Day. If the election were held today his odds on the single digits. The probability models build in Trump narrowing as the election gets closer. The exact opposite is happening.
 

MrSquished

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And remember folks these are his odds on Election Day. If the election were held today his odds on the single digits. The probability models build in Trump narrowing as the election gets closer. The exact opposite is happening.

The main issue I have is how these polls take into account voter suppression such as few drop boxes in democratic leaning areas, etc...
 

fskimospy

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The main issue I have is how these polls take into account voter suppression such as few drop boxes in democratic leaning areas, etc...
The polls don't take that into account and there's no reasonable way they could.

All of them assume a free and fair election, or at least an election as free and fair as a normal American election. Really though, if the Republicans steal the election then polls of public opinion aren't relevant anyway.
 
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Wreckem

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It’s impossible for them to take into account voter suppression.

Trumps polling in red states is now officially in the toilet. He now in dead heats in non swing states. States he won by double digits in 16 are now essentially a coin flip on who will win.
 

MrSquished

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That's what I meant to say. The polls don't take that into account. Thus everyone has to vote like Biden is down in every state.
 

Wreckem

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And again watch TX-3 on election night. If that congressional race is close, Trump could lose Texas. If it flips Dem Trump will lose Texas.
 
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zzyzxroad

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The left leaning fox poll has Biden up. Effing fake news commies.

 

Commodus

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And again watch TX-3 on election night. If that congressional race is close, Trump could lose Texas.

Not counting on that happening, but can you imagine if Trump loses Texas? There would be panic in the Republican ranks. It'd negate some of the swing state fights and basically guarantee a Biden win. And Trump would be apoplectic... he's counting on a close outcome so that he can dispute it, but a Texas loss would likely point to a blowout he can't really fight.
 

Wreckem

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Not counting on that happening, but can you imagine if Trump loses Texas? There would be panic in the Republican ranks. It'd negate some of the swing state fights and basically guarantee a Biden win. And Trump would be apoplectic... he's counting on a close outcome so that he can dispute it, but a Texas loss would likely point to a blowout he can't really fight.

TX-3 is most of Collin County. The congressional race is in the margin of error and could easily move to toss up from lean Republican. This was a district that went for Romney by over 30%. Trump won it by 17%. Cruz won it by 6% againt Beto. It’s margin is smaller right now.

It’s the Highest educated Republican congressional district and one of the highest educated districts in Texas. It’s ripe for flipping. Money is now being funneled into it by the Dems.

If it’s in the low single digits for Trump on election night, like it was for Cruz, who wins Texas will go down to the wire.
 

MrSquished

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Texas is not flipping blue until there are more polling places and less voter suppression tactics allowed like one ballot box per county.
 

Sunburn74

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I find the ballot box thing odd. Don't mail in ballots come with prepaid postage?
 

Wreckem

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Texas is not flipping blue until there are more polling places and less voter suppression tactics allowed like one ballot box per county.

Fortunately the population centers of Texas are controlled by Democrats. All major population centers have plenty of polling locations.

While the one mail in ballot drop off per county is stupid. The number of mail in voter in Texas will be a lot lower than other states. I don’t think it’s going to have as big of effect as some. The change only impacted a few counties and it has never been an issue beforeZ
 
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BUTCH1

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Nearly 5 million have already voted...up 50 times as many as in 2016.
Wow, early voting here in FL opens on the 19th, (my birthday, yay!) and I'm taking a personal day to be there.
Maybe I'll don a "team blue" hat or something just too piss off any "poll watchers".
 

Jhhnn

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The left leaning fox poll has Biden up. Effing fake news commies.


It's amazing that 61% of Trump voters think democracy is in danger, not from Trump, but because of nebulous conspiracy theory about massive voter fraud planted in their heads. It started back in the GWB years & they're really falling for it coming from Trump.
 
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