Platform build Sandybridge or other

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its 179.99 here at MC.

Same difference. 193$ is with tax out the door

 

[mfenn]

Haha, i was affraid of an answer like that, lol

So what's 2011 socket then? I thought Ivy was 2011.. well i don't know, i'm just confused atm.

EDIT: the 2500K for 193$ out the door is lookin real good at the Micro Center! :hmm:

"Sandy Bridge" refers to the overall microarchitecture. Socket 1155 processors are technically Sandy Bridge-DT.

LGA 2011 parts will also be Sandy Bridge, but they'll have quad-channel memory, QPI instead of DMI, more L3 cache, and more PCIe lanes. They'll be called Sandy Bridge-EN for the "enthusiast" desktop market, Sandy Bridge-EP for the 2P server market, and Sandy Bridge-EX for the 4P server market.

With that background out of the way, there will likely be Ivy Bridge-DT, -EN, -EP, and -EX occupying the same sockets. LGA 2011 is not a replacement for LGA 1155, it's targeted at a different market segment.

 

[BTRY B 529th FA BN]

So other than a 2600K, there will be more 1155 socket upgrades beyond that (2600k?)

Say for example, I wanted the chip without the integrated graphics, could I get that as an upgrade?

 

[mfenn]

So other than a 2600K, there will be more 1155 socket upgrades beyond that (2600k?)

Say for example, I wanted the chip without the integrated graphics, could I get that as an upgrade?

There should be an Ivy Bridge version of the 2600K on 1155, yes. All 1155 chips will have integrated graphics. It's not like the IGP uses any power when you're not using it, and the chips are already well-priced, so why worry if the chip has an IGP or not?

There will also be Sandy Bridge and Ivy Bridge versions of Socket 2011 chips, which do not have IGPs.

 

[BTRY B 529th FA BN]

There should be an Ivy Bridge version of the 2600K on 1155, yes. All 1155 chips will have integrated graphics. It's not like the IGP uses any power when you're not using it, and the chips are already well-priced, so why worry if the chip has an IGP or not?

Just a question and i found out that all 1155 will have IGP. To me, i'd love to have one.. it would probably cut down on the electric bill, but I was just curios.

So then, if I went with the 129$ Sandy dual core he could upgrade later to a nicer quad; either Sandy or Ivy 1155 :thumbsup:

IYO, why do you recommend a quad.

There will also be Sandy Bridge and Ivy Bridge versions of Socket 2011 chips, which do not have IGPs.

So, since 1155 has IGP, my last question is, can the IGP be turned off through bios for running a discrete vid card? say if I went with a sandy build and wanted to use a GTX 580 or whatever is out at that time... :hmm: ???

 

[BoomerD]

If the user doesn't use applications that are graphically intense, gaming, photoshop, video editing/encoding, but rather, things like MS Office, then the IGP should be more than adequate...and yes, you can turn off the IGP if you use a dedicated video card. (or does it do that automatically if it detects a video card?)

 

[BTRY B 529th FA BN]

Did some skim viewing on this Gigabyte UD3H B3 board and was just curios if has the B3 new stepping. I've checked the official web and i don't think we'll be seeing anything negative about Intel and their mess up on the Gigabyte webpage and it didn't show anything.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813128475

EDIT: ok, i just did more skimming and the B3 is the B3 stepping indicator so this motherboard is a good/revised board.

 

[BTRY B 529th FA BN]

Ok, so if I go with an H67 board like the Gigabyte above + a 2500K, will I then still be able to overclock the cores, not including the IGP ??? or does the H67 not allow this?

 

[BTRY B 529th FA BN]

How would this thing do with trans-coding files through Windows Live Movie Maker VS my i7 920 & 6g.. say if I went with a 2500k... if better, then I might get this for myself and give this platform (rig1 in sig) to my brother.

 

[jterrell]

Ok, so if I go with an H67 board like the Gigabyte above + a 2500K, will I then still be able to overclock the cores, not including the IGP ??? or does the H67 not allow this?

H67 will not allow overclocking, thus the sad wait for more P67s.

It makes me want to cry.

 

[BTRY B 529th FA BN]

H67 will not allow overclocking, thus the sad wait for more P67s.

It makes me want to cry.

even with a "K" model chip? and where did you get your info from, thanks

 

[mfenn]

IYO, why do you recommend a quad.

Because they're priced right and just as fast in single-threaded tasks as the duals thanks to turbo boost.

So, since 1155 has IGP, my last question is, can the IGP be turned off through bios for running a discrete vid card? say if I went with a sandy build and wanted to use a GTX 580 or whatever is out at that time... :hmm: ???

The IGP will be automatically disabled if you put a GPU into the x16 slot.

How would this thing do with trans-coding files through Windows Live Movie Maker VS my i7 920 & 6g.. say if I went with a 2500k... if better, then I might get this for myself and give this platform (rig1 in sig) to my brother.

Sandy Bridge is significantly faster at transcoding.

even with a "K" model chip? and where did you get your info from, thanks

Intel says P67 only.

 

[BTRY B 529th FA BN]

new plans laid out in OP

 

[mnewsham]

new plans laid out in OP

Is there a reason you are insisting upon the RAM that wont add anything but costs more? o_o

 

[BTRY B 529th FA BN]

Is there a reason you are insisting upon the RAM that wont add anything but costs more? o_o

the 1.35v vs the 1.5v

 

[mnewsham]

the 1.35v vs the 1.5v

Yes but that doesnt do anything, just adds to the price.

 

[BTRY B 529th FA BN]

i'm taking a lesson from the DDR2 days and the P45 chipset ~ 775lga

2.1v was horrible for the system stability - it made the board and overclocking waaay to sensitive for anything i tried doing. I stuck a DDR2 800 1.9v kit in and my Q9550 I had at the time, shown improvement while overclocking & stability. This is after I sold a in perfect working condition Q9650 for 150$ at the peak of their popularity, that's like getting a i5 2600K for 75-100$

 

[mnewsham]

Sandy bridge OC is independent from RAM speeds

 

[BTRY B 529th FA BN]

I didn't write the book on the requirements of the platform stability, i'm just taking a lesson learned step with this potential build. The lower volts the better regardless, ya know?

 

[mnewsham]

With DDR3 RAM being so cheap and no real reason for it to get more expensive any time soon i just see it as pointless. By the time you upgrade to the next stepping that needs lower voltage you will need more RAM anyway.

 

[mfenn]

I agree with mnewsham that the extra $8 is kinda pointlessly spent.

 

[BTRY B 529th FA BN]

when are you guys gonna learn the lower the volts the better!?

 

[mnewsham]

when are you guys gonna learn the lower the volts the better!?

not true

 

[BTRY B 529th FA BN]

i held off saying anything because i thought you'd get it by now

 

[BTRY B 529th FA BN]

If I had a DDR3 kit CL9 @ 1.65v and one at 1.35v, which is better

and you guys are talking about 10$ in a picture of ~ 380$ investment