PLATINUM SELLING RAPPER TELLS '60 MINUTES': WOULDN'T HELP POLICE CATCH EVEN A SERIAL KILLER BECAUSE

[blackllotus]

To be honest, he's probably scared of being shot on stage when he's performing in front of an audience of thousands

 

[Zedtom]

Cam'ron is just talking like that to maintain his image. He probably has a mansion out in New Jersey or in the hills above Hollywood. His next door neighbors are probably upper class whites that get nervous whenever they see his posse pull up.

 

[sygyzy]

Originally posted by: BrunoPuntzJones

Originally posted by: theprodigalrebel
Idiot.

Agreed, all caps are annoying

Another quality post by Michaels.

 

[moshquerade]

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
They grow up in an environment where they and their peers are harassed by police from the time they can walk. Why would they work with the police. I wouldn't if I was them. Not to meniton to these people they are or there family and friends are in some stage of the justice system. Jail, probation, parole etc.....naturally cops become the enemy.

Oh cry me a river. Stop making excuses for them. Cam'ron is EXACTLY what is wrong with the black community, and until he and the likes of him lose their piss poor attitude and stop blaming everyone else for their problems nothing is going to get better for them.

 

[50cent1228]

Originally posted by: jpeyton
Not that you guys would understand, but in some circles, being a snitch is worse than death.

He can do whatever he wants.

 

[FeuerFrei]

Stuff like this just makes me more suspicious of blacks. And members with the black man avatar... j/k.

 

[OutHouse]

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: jpeyton
Not that you guys would understand, but in some circles, being a snitch is worse than death.

He can do whatever he wants.

He can do whatever he wants, but we can think he's an asshole for doing it. The "circles" you refer to are poor and urban, and they will continue to be poor and urban until they give up some of the more idiotic aspects of their culture.

:thumbsup:

 

[b0mbrman]

Originally posted by: RobsPics

Originally posted by: Aikouka

Originally posted by: jpeyton
He can do whatever he wants.

Uhh isn't knowing about a crime and not reporting it being an accessory to the fact? Which in turn is a crime in itself. So no, you cannot just "do that" as much as you cannot just "do" the crime in itself. Well, you can physically do it, but you're gunna get in trouble .

No, it's not illegal to know about a crime, and simply keep silent.

Hi and welcome to the forums

 

[OutHouse]

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
They grow up in an environment where they and their peers are harassed by police from the time they can walk. Why would they work with the police. I wouldn't if I was them. Not to meniton to these people they are or there family and friends are in some stage of the justice system. Jail, probation, parole etc.....naturally cops become the enemy.

Oh cry me a river. Stop making excuses for them. Cam'ron is EXACTLY what is wrong with the black community, and until he and the likes of him lose their piss poor attitude and stop blaming everyone else for their problems nothing is going to get better for them.

:thumbsup:

 

[necine]

Originally posted by: Atheus
It would take quite a bit to make me call the police. I certainly wouldn't call them if I was mugged or something... I would call about the serial killer though...

get mugged and then tell me what you'd do.

 

[QueBert]

Originally posted by: Zedtom
Cam'ron is just talking like that to maintain his image. He probably has a mansion out in New Jersey or in the hills above Hollywood. His next door neighbors are probably upper class whites that get nervous whenever they see his posse pull up.

It's not talk, call him stupid if you want, but Cam'Ron was shot in an attempted car jacking, and it's pretty much word on the street he found out who did it. And he didn't snitch on them.

People on here are saying people like him need to grow up and and be a productive member of society. But if that's all they've known since being a baby how do you expect that to happen? I went to school in the hood and snitching wasn't ever an option. If I was put in a situation where I knew snitching would put a guilty man in jail, but it would also mean my ass probably getting killed in return. I'd say it'd be the easiest choice of my life to shut the fvck up.

 

[Whisper]

Originally posted by: QueBert

Originally posted by: Zedtom
Cam'ron is just talking like that to maintain his image. He probably has a mansion out in New Jersey or in the hills above Hollywood. His next door neighbors are probably upper class whites that get nervous whenever they see his posse pull up.

It's not talk, call him stupid if you want, but Cam'Ron was shot in an attempted car jacking, and it's pretty much word on the street he found out who did it. And he didn't snitch on them.

People on here are saying people like him need to grow up and and be a productive member of society. But if that's all they've known since being a baby how do you expect that to happen? I went to school in the hood and snitching wasn't ever an option. If I was put in a situation where I knew snitching would put a guilty man in jail, but it would also mean my ass probably getting killed in return. I'd say it'd be the easiest choice of my life to shut the fvck up.

Exactly. I find it troubling that so many people here and elsewhere so easily discount the ability of those born into a privileged lifestyle to understand "normal life," yet in turn fail to attribute this lack of understanding to themselves when forming opinions on individuals brought up surrounded by inner-city poverty.

Think about it. How many posters would bash someone like Paris Hilton or Tori Spelling if they came out and said, "yeah, I can totally relate to how most of America has to worry about stuff like mortgage payments and college loans and bankruptcy. But it's really their fault for not having enough money to do something about it."

I can guarantee within five minutes of that interview, there would be twenty threads on here talking about Hilton's or Spelling's complete disconnect with "reality." Yet talk about how individuals born into an environment drastically different from that of most ATOT posters, for example, in terms of poverty and exposure to violence and drugs, and suddenly, we're all experts on inner-city conditions and upbringing.

 

[brandonb]

Originally posted by: Whisper

Exactly. I find it troubling that so many people here and elsewhere so easily discount the ability of those born into a privileged lifestyle to understand "normal life,"

Stop with the privledged crap ok? I'm a "privliedged white male"... I grew up in the same hood as the minorities where I was outnumbered 80% to 20% (minority to white.) I somehow made something of myself even though my circumstances were exactly the same as everybody around me. How does that make me anymore priviledged unless you consider everybody who is white priviledged? (such a racist remark in itself) But I guess the stereo type is if you are on ATOT, you are somehow a rich white boy...

Since we are talking about how priviledged I am...

Why is it every single time I go through the grocery store checkout line when there is a minority in front of me, they pay with EBT. I'm sure priviledged to pay for my own food. I think out of the last 20 times I've gone I've kept note of it, I think once a minority woman in a fur coat paid for her $5 item with cash once... The odds are 5% actually pay for their food.

How am I priviledged again?

 

[Whisper]

Originally posted by: brandonb

Originally posted by: Whisper

Exactly. I find it troubling that so many people here and elsewhere so easily discount the ability of those born into a privileged lifestyle to understand "normal life,"

Stop with the privledged crap ok? I'm a "privliedged white male"... I grew up in the same hood as the minorities where I was outnumbered 80% to 20% (minority to white.) I somehow made something of myself even though my circumstances were exactly the same as everybody around me. How does that make me anymore priviledged unless you consider everybody who is white priviledged? (such a racist remark in itself) But I guess the stereo type is if you are on ATOT, you are somehow a rich white boy...

Since we are talking about how priviledged I am...

Why is it every single time I go through the grocery store checkout line when there is a minority in front of me, they pay with EBT. I'm sure priviledged to pay for my own food. I think out of the last 20 times I've gone I've kept note of it, I think once a minority woman in a fur coat paid for her $5 item with cash once... The odds are 5% actually pay for their food.

How am I priviledged again?

I'm not exactly sure of the point you are trying to make, nor of how you drew from my post that I in any way equated the term "privileged" with being white.

I will attempt to summarize and restate my point in a more clear and concise manner. Basically, I have seen and heard people (of all races) harp on the inability of "privileged" individuals to understand "real life." The examples I gave were Tori Spelling or Paris Hilton, but could easily have instead been the son of P. Diddy or cast members from Laguna Beach.

Yet when situations arise in which, for example, an individual from a middle-class or upper middle-class family states opinions regarding people who grew up impoverished and in the inner-city, many will automatically belittle the effects of these impoverished conditions, and/or not criticize themselves in a manner similar to how they might criticize the aforementioned Hiltons or Spellings.

Basically, many people--regardless of SES--are quick to place great importance on the situations surrounding their own lives and upbringing, and belittle the importance of these same situations when discussing others, especially when said others are from a different SES or social class.

 

[irishScott]

Originally posted by: Whisper

Originally posted by: brandonb

Originally posted by: Whisper

Exactly. I find it troubling that so many people here and elsewhere so easily discount the ability of those born into a privileged lifestyle to understand "normal life,"

Stop with the privledged crap ok? I'm a "privliedged white male"... I grew up in the same hood as the minorities where I was outnumbered 80% to 20% (minority to white.) I somehow made something of myself even though my circumstances were exactly the same as everybody around me. How does that make me anymore priviledged unless you consider everybody who is white priviledged? (such a racist remark in itself) But I guess the stereo type is if you are on ATOT, you are somehow a rich white boy...

Since we are talking about how priviledged I am...

Why is it every single time I go through the grocery store checkout line when there is a minority in front of me, they pay with EBT. I'm sure priviledged to pay for my own food. I think out of the last 20 times I've gone I've kept note of it, I think once a minority woman in a fur coat paid for her $5 item with cash once... The odds are 5% actually pay for their food.

How am I priviledged again?

I'm not exactly sure of the point you are trying to make, nor of how you drew from my post that I in any way equated the term "privileged" with being white.

I will attempt to summarize and restate my point in a more clear and concise manner. Basically, I have seen and heard people (of all races) harp on the inability of "privileged" individuals to understand "real life." The examples I gave were Tori Spelling or Paris Hilton, but could easily have instead been the son of P. Diddy or cast members from Laguna Beach.

Yet when situations arise in which, for example, an individual from a middle-class or upper middle-class family states opinions regarding people who grew up impoverished and in the inner-city, many will automatically belittle the effects of these impoverished conditions, and/or not criticize themselves in a manner similar to how they might criticize the aforementioned Hiltons or Spellings.

Basically, many people--regardless of SES--are quick to place great importance on the situations surrounding their own lives and upbringing, and belittle the importance of these same situations when discussing others, especially when said others are from a different SES or social class.

Fine, but aside from trying to be a model citizen... These people want to get rich right?

1. There are VERY FEW rich rappers out there.

2. There are VERY FEW rich drug dealers out there.

3. There are VERY FEW rich PIMPs out there.

4. There are a HELL OF A LOT of rich educated people working honest jobs and earning more money then most of these dealers, PIMPs and rappers will ever make.

5. Getting rich through political corruption. These people are educated at the very least.


Yet the whole idea behind the ghetto mentality is to do 1-3

 

[Whisper]

Originally posted by: irishScott

Originally posted by: Whisper

Originally posted by: brandonb

Originally posted by: Whisper

Exactly. I find it troubling that so many people here and elsewhere so easily discount the ability of those born into a privileged lifestyle to understand "normal life,"

Stop with the privledged crap ok? I'm a "privliedged white male"... I grew up in the same hood as the minorities where I was outnumbered 80% to 20% (minority to white.) I somehow made something of myself even though my circumstances were exactly the same as everybody around me. How does that make me anymore priviledged unless you consider everybody who is white priviledged? (such a racist remark in itself) But I guess the stereo type is if you are on ATOT, you are somehow a rich white boy...

Since we are talking about how priviledged I am...

Why is it every single time I go through the grocery store checkout line when there is a minority in front of me, they pay with EBT. I'm sure priviledged to pay for my own food. I think out of the last 20 times I've gone I've kept note of it, I think once a minority woman in a fur coat paid for her $5 item with cash once... The odds are 5% actually pay for their food.

How am I priviledged again?

I'm not exactly sure of the point you are trying to make, nor of how you drew from my post that I in any way equated the term "privileged" with being white.

I will attempt to summarize and restate my point in a more clear and concise manner. Basically, I have seen and heard people (of all races) harp on the inability of "privileged" individuals to understand "real life." The examples I gave were Tori Spelling or Paris Hilton, but could easily have instead been the son of P. Diddy or cast members from Laguna Beach.

Yet when situations arise in which, for example, an individual from a middle-class or upper middle-class family states opinions regarding people who grew up impoverished and in the inner-city, many will automatically belittle the effects of these impoverished conditions, and/or not criticize themselves in a manner similar to how they might criticize the aforementioned Hiltons or Spellings.

Basically, many people--regardless of SES--are quick to place great importance on the situations surrounding their own lives and upbringing, and belittle the importance of these same situations when discussing others, especially when said others are from a different SES or social class.

Fine, but aside from trying to be a model citizen... These people want to get rich right?

1. There are VERY FEW rich rappers out there.

2. There are VERY FEW rich drug dealers out there.

3. There are VERY FEW rich PIMPs out there.

4. There are a HELL OF A LOT of rich educated people working honest jobs and earning more money then most of these dealers, PIMPs and rappers will ever make.

5. Getting rich through political corruption. These people are educated at the very least.


Yet the whole idea behind the ghetto mentality is to do 1-3

True, but at the same time, I doubt there are very many people in impoverished neighborhoods espousing the benefits of #4. I'm not attempting to place or remove blame on/from anyone; I'm simply stating that the circumstances surrounding the development of an inner-city youth are very different from those of other social classes (just as could be said of any of these other social classes in relation to all the rest). Yet these circumstances are often-times, and unfairly, summarily discounted by individuals not familiar with them.

In essence, to make a change and foster improvement, the circumstances must be understood and addressed rather than ignored in favor of the end goal.

 

[mercanucaribe]

Sounds like he takes his ethics lessons from politicians and executives.

 

[DAWeinG]

Originally posted by: irishScott

Originally posted by: Whisper

Originally posted by: brandonb

Originally posted by: Whisper

Exactly. I find it troubling that so many people here and elsewhere so easily discount the ability of those born into a privileged lifestyle to understand "normal life,"

Stop with the privledged crap ok? I'm a "privliedged white male"... I grew up in the same hood as the minorities where I was outnumbered 80% to 20% (minority to white.) I somehow made something of myself even though my circumstances were exactly the same as everybody around me. How does that make me anymore priviledged unless you consider everybody who is white priviledged? (such a racist remark in itself) But I guess the stereo type is if you are on ATOT, you are somehow a rich white boy...

Since we are talking about how priviledged I am...

Why is it every single time I go through the grocery store checkout line when there is a minority in front of me, they pay with EBT. I'm sure priviledged to pay for my own food. I think out of the last 20 times I've gone I've kept note of it, I think once a minority woman in a fur coat paid for her $5 item with cash once... The odds are 5% actually pay for their food.

How am I priviledged again?

I'm not exactly sure of the point you are trying to make, nor of how you drew from my post that I in any way equated the term "privileged" with being white.

I will attempt to summarize and restate my point in a more clear and concise manner. Basically, I have seen and heard people (of all races) harp on the inability of "privileged" individuals to understand "real life." The examples I gave were Tori Spelling or Paris Hilton, but could easily have instead been the son of P. Diddy or cast members from Laguna Beach.

Yet when situations arise in which, for example, an individual from a middle-class or upper middle-class family states opinions regarding people who grew up impoverished and in the inner-city, many will automatically belittle the effects of these impoverished conditions, and/or not criticize themselves in a manner similar to how they might criticize the aforementioned Hiltons or Spellings.

Basically, many people--regardless of SES--are quick to place great importance on the situations surrounding their own lives and upbringing, and belittle the importance of these same situations when discussing others, especially when said others are from a different SES or social class.

Fine, but aside from trying to be a model citizen... These people want to get rich right?

1. There are VERY FEW rich rappers out there.

2. There are VERY FEW rich drug dealers out there.

3. There are VERY FEW rich PIMPs out there.

4. There are a HELL OF A LOT of rich educated people working honest jobs and earning more money then most of these dealers, PIMPs and rappers will ever make.

5. Getting rich through political corruption. These people are educated at the very least.


Yet the whole idea behind the ghetto mentality is to do 1-3

Because being rappers, Kobe Bryants, drug dealers, and pimps is shown in the media more than education.

 

[wkabel23]

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
They grow up in an environment where they and their peers are harassed by police from the time they can walk. Why would they work with the police. I wouldn't if I was them. Not to meniton to these people they are or there family and friends are in some stage of the justice system. Jail, probation, parole etc.....naturally cops become the enemy.

Oh cry me a river. Stop making excuses for them. Cam'ron is EXACTLY what is wrong with the black community, and until he and the likes of him lose their piss poor attitude and stop blaming everyone else for their problems nothing is going to get better for them.

What makes you think the 'black community' wants his excuses? You're a white person trying to analyze a situation you can't completely understand. Perhaps the real problem with this country is that the white (middle/upper class is a better term) ethics you support don't apply to everyone in the country...yet you want it to?

And for the record, snitches get stitches. Hell, I can't even understand that philosophy fully and neither can you...we don't live in the same environment. The world of poverty and the comfy little world you live in are quite different. Are you naive enough to believe that's theres not a reason for the phrase 'snitches get stitches?'

 

[natto fire]

ANANDTECH POSTER TO OTHERS: CAPS LOCK KEY SHOULD BE USED SPARINGLY!

 

[Corporate Thug]

Originally posted by: LisaQ
DIPSET DIPSET DIPSET!!!

hahaha, well said.

Atleast the man isnt a hypocrite.

 

[irishScott]

Originally posted by: wkabel23

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
They grow up in an environment where they and their peers are harassed by police from the time they can walk. Why would they work with the police. I wouldn't if I was them. Not to meniton to these people they are or there family and friends are in some stage of the justice system. Jail, probation, parole etc.....naturally cops become the enemy.

Oh cry me a river. Stop making excuses for them. Cam'ron is EXACTLY what is wrong with the black community, and until he and the likes of him lose their piss poor attitude and stop blaming everyone else for their problems nothing is going to get better for them.

What makes you think the 'black community' wants his excuses? You're a white person trying to analyze a situation you can't completely understand. Perhaps the real problem with this country is that the white (middle/upper class is a better term) ethics you support don't apply to everyone in the country...yet you want it to?

And for the record, snitches get stitches. Hell, I can't even understand that philosophy fully and neither can you...we don't live in the same environment. The world of poverty and the comfy little world you live in are quite different. Are you naive enough to believe that's theres not a reason for the phrase 'snitches get stitches?'

So we should allow "ghetto" people to go around and ****** whores, shoot said whores if they don't have good time, sell drugs, rape, kill, and burglarize at whim?

While we're at it... the terrorists and fanatics have their own "ethics" system. They want to come into this country. Let's welcome them with open arms :disgust:

The problem is that they hate "the man" so much that they don't care how "the man" got to be "the man" in the first place. They'll die out sooner or later.

There's a theory that I like somewhere, call it Intellectual Civic Darwinism. Only the intelligent rise in status. Whether these intelligent people are corrupt or not is another story. Still 50 Cent and other "ghetto" types aren't going places. They want the street, IMO they can have it. Go ahead, shoot each other, rape women, smoke weed all day and crack all night. I can help you. You don't want my help? Fine. It won't be given.

 

[Corporate Thug]

Originally posted by: DougK62
Who cares? He's a nobody.

apparently you dont listen to rap or have much insight about hip hop if you think Cam is a nobody...

 

[Corporate Thug]

Originally posted by: jpeyton

Originally posted by: Aikouka

Originally posted by: jpeyton
He can do whatever he wants.

Uhh isn't knowing about a crime and not reporting it being an accessory to the fact? Which in turn is a crime in itself. So no, you cannot just "do that" as much as you cannot just "do" the crime in itself. Well, you can physically do it, but you're gunna get in trouble .

Unless the police have psychic abilities, they can't peer into your mind.

Now if they have evidence you witnessed the crime, then self-preservation might kick in, and cooperation would follow. Just depends on how much they can compel you to do it.

as jpeyton suggests, it is very rare for "accessories" to be charged because it is just to hard to prove a vast majority of the time. I dont remember the last time I saw anyone in my office take on an accessory case.

 

[Luthien]

shens, he would call in anonomously