Originally posted by: TallBill
Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: jpeyton
Not that you guys would understand, but in some circles, being a snitch is worse than death.
He can do whatever he wants.
He can do whatever he wants, but we can think he's an asshole for doing it. The "circles" you refer to are poor and urban, and they will continue to be poor and urban until they give up some of the more idiotic aspects of their culture.
Good call. Our urban areas are pathetic in this country.
Originally posted by: QueBert
Originally posted by: FallenHero
Originally posted by: QueBert
Originally posted by: brandonb
Originally posted by: Whisper
Exactly. I find it troubling that so many people here and elsewhere so easily discount the ability of those born into a privileged lifestyle to understand "normal life,"
Stop with the privledged crap ok? I'm a "privliedged white male"... I grew up in the same hood as the minorities where I was outnumbered 80% to 20% (minority to white.) I somehow made something of myself even though my circumstances were exactly the same as everybody around me. How does that make me anymore priviledged unless you consider everybody who is white priviledged? (such a racist remark in itself) But I guess the stereo type is if you are on ATOT, you are somehow a rich white boy...
Since we are talking about how priviledged I am...
Why is it every single time I go through the grocery store checkout line when there is a minority in front of me, they pay with EBT. I'm sure priviledged to pay for my own food. I think out of the last 20 times I've gone I've kept note of it, I think once a minority woman in a fur coat paid for her $5 item with cash once... The odds are 5% actually pay for their food.
How am I priviledged again?
you're privileged because of your skin color, you grew up in the ghetto that's fine, but people see you and see a white man and nothing of the "ghetto" you grew up in. A black man can be born into a rich, well off family, but in a lot of peoples eyes he's still a n***er who might as well be from the ghetto. You are privileged because you don't need Affirmative Action to help you get a job you're qualified for. If you don't see the fact you having white skin is a huge privilege then I don't know what to tell you.
And your example about EBT has nothing to do with the color of the skin, I see plenty of black, asian, mexican, and yes even white people! Who all are on EBT. Believe it or not, the government doesn't just give out EBT cards to anyone who asks. You 5% figure is so far off it's not even funny, and to use the fur coat as an example is pretty piss poor, for all you know that coat could have been handed down from her mom, or maybe it was a birthday present from their grandparents. Or maybe the person bought it a year eairler when they were doing well for themselves, and they fell on hard times. Regardless, way to go jumping to conclusions and making yourself look like a complete racist fool. I do applaud your honesty thought, I honestly don't think I could say the things you said, even if I did feel them.
Oh please, dont jump down his throat because he speaks some semblence of truth. Go to harvey IL, watch the community spend more on drugs and "blinged" out cars then homes and food. These arent isolated incidents. And its not like they work...they attacked the damn fire department for shutting off hydrants. They have shootings in back of the damn firehouse. They actually DO spend their piss poor income on crap, government supported or not. Why dont you stop talking out of your ass.
He said "5% actually pay with cash" that is the main thing that made me respond, if he was going to pull a random number out of his ass he should have came up with something with a semblance (learn how to spell...) of truth. You are just as bad as him for talking about a small percentage of people. I've lived in the ghetto, and believe me when I say MOST of the people could care less about bling and drugs, they struggle to put food on the table and their concerns are not getting evicted. are there a lot of people in the inner city who sell drugs and spend all their loot on cars and jewelry? sure, but you make it sound like that's every people in the hoods dream, when in reality it's a small percentage. I could be an asshat like the OP and pull a number out of my rear like 5%, but I won't. I'll just say it's far from the majority and if you think differently you know very little.
so why don't you stop talking out of your ass, as it's clear here your views on the inner city come from the slander that comes from the media and the rap music videos you might have heard. I have lived in the inner city, I hang out in the inner city, don't believe everything you see on the Television as the news is very one sided.
Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
They grow up in an environment where they and their peers are harassed by police from the time they can walk. Why would they work with the police. I wouldn't if I was them. Not to meniton to these people they are or there family and friends are in some stage of the justice system. Jail, probation, parole etc.....naturally cops become the enemy.
Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212
Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
They grow up in an environment where they and their peers are harassed by police from the time they can walk. Why would they work with the police. I wouldn't if I was them. Not to meniton to these people they are or there family and friends are in some stage of the justice system. Jail, probation, parole etc.....naturally cops become the enemy.
Just wanted to say that I really enjoy your posts, even outside of my YAGTs. You bring a sense of honest realism to ATOT vs. the hysterical yammers normally shouted around here.
Originally posted by: maziwanka
he's an idiot, that's for sure. but this kind of attitude isn't uncommon in neighborhoods where cops are just bad.
Originally posted by: FallenHero
Originally posted by: QueBert
Originally posted by: FallenHero
Originally posted by: QueBert
Originally posted by: brandonb
Originally posted by: Whisper
Exactly. I find it troubling that so many people here and elsewhere so easily discount the ability of those born into a privileged lifestyle to understand "normal life,"
Stop with the privledged crap ok? I'm a "privliedged white male"... I grew up in the same hood as the minorities where I was outnumbered 80% to 20% (minority to white.) I somehow made something of myself even though my circumstances were exactly the same as everybody around me. How does that make me anymore priviledged unless you consider everybody who is white priviledged? (such a racist remark in itself) But I guess the stereo type is if you are on ATOT, you are somehow a rich white boy...
Since we are talking about how priviledged I am...
Why is it every single time I go through the grocery store checkout line when there is a minority in front of me, they pay with EBT. I'm sure priviledged to pay for my own food. I think out of the last 20 times I've gone I've kept note of it, I think once a minority woman in a fur coat paid for her $5 item with cash once... The odds are 5% actually pay for their food.
How am I priviledged again?
you're privileged because of your skin color, you grew up in the ghetto that's fine, but people see you and see a white man and nothing of the "ghetto" you grew up in. A black man can be born into a rich, well off family, but in a lot of peoples eyes he's still a n***er who might as well be from the ghetto. You are privileged because you don't need Affirmative Action to help you get a job you're qualified for. If you don't see the fact you having white skin is a huge privilege then I don't know what to tell you.
And your example about EBT has nothing to do with the color of the skin, I see plenty of black, asian, mexican, and yes even white people! Who all are on EBT. Believe it or not, the government doesn't just give out EBT cards to anyone who asks. You 5% figure is so far off it's not even funny, and to use the fur coat as an example is pretty piss poor, for all you know that coat could have been handed down from her mom, or maybe it was a birthday present from their grandparents. Or maybe the person bought it a year eairler when they were doing well for themselves, and they fell on hard times. Regardless, way to go jumping to conclusions and making yourself look like a complete racist fool. I do applaud your honesty thought, I honestly don't think I could say the things you said, even if I did feel them.
Oh please, dont jump down his throat because he speaks some semblence of truth. Go to harvey IL, watch the community spend more on drugs and "blinged" out cars then homes and food. These arent isolated incidents. And its not like they work...they attacked the damn fire department for shutting off hydrants. They have shootings in back of the damn firehouse. They actually DO spend their piss poor income on crap, government supported or not. Why dont you stop talking out of your ass.
He said "5% actually pay with cash" that is the main thing that made me respond, if he was going to pull a random number out of his ass he should have came up with something with a semblance (learn how to spell...) of truth. You are just as bad as him for talking about a small percentage of people. I've lived in the ghetto, and believe me when I say MOST of the people could care less about bling and drugs, they struggle to put food on the table and their concerns are not getting evicted. are there a lot of people in the inner city who sell drugs and spend all their loot on cars and jewelry? sure, but you make it sound like that's every people in the hoods dream, when in reality it's a small percentage. I could be an asshat like the OP and pull a number out of my rear like 5%, but I won't. I'll just say it's far from the majority and if you think differently you know very little.
so why don't you stop talking out of your ass, as it's clear here your views on the inner city come from the slander that comes from the media and the rap music videos you might have heard. I have lived in the inner city, I hang out in the inner city, don't believe everything you see on the Television as the news is very one sided.
Actually my perceptions come from actual experience. Either I have seen it or my brother has told me what has happened there. Nice try on the media thing though.
Originally posted by: Allen Iverson
insightful comments from all.
i dont see the logic behind blaming poor people for their lifestyle. black or white doesnt matter, humans are humans. the only reason crime, drugs are greater there is because a) theres very few opportunities available, and this is a way out; b) they aren't educated enough. especially, when it comes to drugs. the whole nation was on it in the 60s and 70s - why did we all stop? because we realised the harm it does.
that said, that doesnt make it excusable for ghetto peeps to not try and help themselves at least. especially many rappers. they ought to try and help their community. BUT, they arent any worse than any1 else, especially in such a fickle entertainment industry. do u see rockers being charitable? no (most of them anyway). people are people. doesnt matter if your a rock star or a rap star. rap music is not public enemy number one, there are many people who enjoy it. if you dont like glorification of violence and sex, then so be it.
the best thing we can do, instead of blaming poor people, is try and help others. y shouldnt we? i suspect ATOTers are intelligent, well-to-do people from a diversity of races. at least we can be smart and help those in need. a small lending hand goes a long way.
great posts though!
Originally posted by: QueBert
Originally posted by: FallenHero
Originally posted by: QueBert
Originally posted by: FallenHero
Originally posted by: QueBert
Originally posted by: brandonb
Originally posted by: Whisper
Exactly. I find it troubling that so many people here and elsewhere so easily discount the ability of those born into a privileged lifestyle to understand "normal life,"
Stop with the privledged crap ok? I'm a "privliedged white male"... I grew up in the same hood as the minorities where I was outnumbered 80% to 20% (minority to white.) I somehow made something of myself even though my circumstances were exactly the same as everybody around me. How does that make me anymore priviledged unless you consider everybody who is white priviledged? (such a racist remark in itself) But I guess the stereo type is if you are on ATOT, you are somehow a rich white boy...
Since we are talking about how priviledged I am...
Why is it every single time I go through the grocery store checkout line when there is a minority in front of me, they pay with EBT. I'm sure priviledged to pay for my own food. I think out of the last 20 times I've gone I've kept note of it, I think once a minority woman in a fur coat paid for her $5 item with cash once... The odds are 5% actually pay for their food.
How am I priviledged again?
you're privileged because of your skin color, you grew up in the ghetto that's fine, but people see you and see a white man and nothing of the "ghetto" you grew up in. A black man can be born into a rich, well off family, but in a lot of peoples eyes he's still a n***er who might as well be from the ghetto. You are privileged because you don't need Affirmative Action to help you get a job you're qualified for. If you don't see the fact you having white skin is a huge privilege then I don't know what to tell you.
And your example about EBT has nothing to do with the color of the skin, I see plenty of black, asian, mexican, and yes even white people! Who all are on EBT. Believe it or not, the government doesn't just give out EBT cards to anyone who asks. You 5% figure is so far off it's not even funny, and to use the fur coat as an example is pretty piss poor, for all you know that coat could have been handed down from her mom, or maybe it was a birthday present from their grandparents. Or maybe the person bought it a year eairler when they were doing well for themselves, and they fell on hard times. Regardless, way to go jumping to conclusions and making yourself look like a complete racist fool. I do applaud your honesty thought, I honestly don't think I could say the things you said, even if I did feel them.
Oh please, dont jump down his throat because he speaks some semblence of truth. Go to harvey IL, watch the community spend more on drugs and "blinged" out cars then homes and food. These arent isolated incidents. And its not like they work...they attacked the damn fire department for shutting off hydrants. They have shootings in back of the damn firehouse. They actually DO spend their piss poor income on crap, government supported or not. Why dont you stop talking out of your ass.
He said "5% actually pay with cash" that is the main thing that made me respond, if he was going to pull a random number out of his ass he should have came up with something with a semblance (learn how to spell...) of truth. You are just as bad as him for talking about a small percentage of people. I've lived in the ghetto, and believe me when I say MOST of the people could care less about bling and drugs, they struggle to put food on the table and their concerns are not getting evicted. are there a lot of people in the inner city who sell drugs and spend all their loot on cars and jewelry? sure, but you make it sound like that's every people in the hoods dream, when in reality it's a small percentage. I could be an asshat like the OP and pull a number out of my rear like 5%, but I won't. I'll just say it's far from the majority and if you think differently you know very little.
so why don't you stop talking out of your ass, as it's clear here your views on the inner city come from the slander that comes from the media and the rap music videos you might have heard. I have lived in the inner city, I hang out in the inner city, don't believe everything you see on the Television as the news is very one sided.
Actually my perceptions come from actual experience. Either I have seen it or my brother has told me what has happened there. Nice try on the media thing though.
Ok, so you base your perceptions on actual experiences, which account for how many people? You remind me of the white chick who lives up the street from me who claims all black men have big penises, she is an expert because she's slept with over 100 of them. Much like you, she bases her theory on interactions she has with less then 1% of the population. You should get a job with the media or the government they love people like you who make sweeping generalization's based off what they see a small group of people do.
So let me assume you've seen even hummm 300 black people at the store using EBT, so they obviously represent all black people right? No matter that area probably has tens of thousands, if not more. You're not exactly prejudice, but you seem to jump on what a few people do and label the rest the same. Which in my eyes means you might as well be.
Everything you've described I see white people do where I live, so should I just talk out of my ass like you and claim white people are all like that? Christ
Originally posted by: Flyback
If people desire to live in crime-infested areas and do nothing about it, thus allowing their quality of life and that of their community to degrade -- then why should we care? It's their own doing *shrug*.
Originally posted by: FoBoT
warren G and Da Brat is on celebrity fit club: men vs. women
Originally posted by: jpeyton
Not that you guys would understand, but in some circles, being a snitch is worse than death.