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ImpulsE69

Lifer
Jan 8, 2010
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I look at death cams most of the time, and sometimes it seems like I get hit while someone's sights were noticeably off to one side of me or the other. It didn't look like they were using an aimbot, so, is this a problem with the deathcam not properly reflecting the realities of latency, is the hitregistration too forgiving, or what?

Supposedly it's an issue with the deathcam. What bugs me about this excuse though is it isn't always the case.
 

TechBoyJK

Lifer
Oct 17, 2002
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I look at death cams most of the time, and sometimes it seems like I get hit while someone's sights were noticeably off to one side of me or the other. It didn't look like they were using an aimbot, so, is this a problem with the deathcam not properly reflecting the realities of latency, is the hitregistration too forgiving, or what?

Is the replay actual captured video or is it a simulated replay based on data captured leading up to the death?
 

maniacalpha1-1

Diamond Member
Feb 7, 2010
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Is the replay actual captured video or is it a simulated replay based on data captured leading up to the death?

I have to assume it's simulated replay based on data, though there was an article about this a few weeks ago that I didn't pay attention to. It's the in-game tool, if that's what you meant, and not something I record with -
 

Stg-Flame

Diamond Member
Mar 10, 2007
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I've always wondered if death cams will show a real-time video from the person's view (lag and all) or if they simulate the death cam based on all the data input during the kill. I've read that some games do one because the other is impossible without ever getting any iron clad information.
 

maniacalpha1-1

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Feb 7, 2010
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I see so many people playing this... am I missing out?

One way to find out but just keep in mind that it's battle royale, one death and you're out. You could wait 15-20 minutes for the next round (assuming you die immediately after parachuting in) or even if you exit the round to try again it still takes 2-5 minutes to try again.
 

thejunglegod

Golden Member
Feb 12, 2012
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I see so many people playing this... am I missing out?
It really depends on what you prefer. It is the most unpolished official release game I've ever played. Textures look horrible, animations/movements are jerky, some framerate issues etc. Add to that the consistent issues pertaining to hackers, I quit this game in a hurry. The only thing it does well though, is give you the adrenaline rush of having to survive.
If that's your thing, by all means, try the game out. But I'd rather you watch some videos of the gameplay first and then decide.
 

Feneant2

Golden Member
May 26, 2004
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Got my first obvious cheating death last night but it was still confusing. I was in a house on the island map maybe a minute walk from the nearest town and I died. When I checked the deathcam the guy who killed me was in the town fighting other people, he got a couple of kills but there was really nothing to show that he shot towards me. I also didn't see the kill note on the cam from him and he wasn't shooting indiscriminately so didn't look like he was cheating... I guess he was trying to keep it looking looking legit?

Ah well, I reported it and he'll probably get banned. During another game later I got some satisfaction because the guy who killed me was shooting from outside the blue circle nearing the end. I took a shot back with the KAR98 and tagged him good but he barely survived and killed me next shot but looking at the kill cam he died about 2 seconds later from the circle damage over time.
 

Homerboy

Lifer
Mar 1, 2000
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4,974
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It really depends on what you prefer. It is the most unpolished official release game I've ever played. Textures look horrible, animations/movements are jerky, some framerate issues etc. Add to that the consistent issues pertaining to hackers, I quit this game in a hurry. The only thing it does well though, is give you the adrenaline rush of having to survive.
If that's your thing, by all means, try the game out. But I'd rather you watch some videos of the gameplay first and then decide.

See, this is where I miss game demos like the good ole days - give people 1 level to play and let them make an educated decision before purchasing something. I realize though that in most cases these demos would end up costing the companies money as a lot of people would end up not buying. Shame.
 

nurturedhate

Golden Member
Aug 27, 2011
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I see so many people playing this... am I missing out?
I bought the game early last summer and only played a couple rounds before quitting. As a solo experience it's not fun. A friend recently bought it and we've been playing duo recently and it is a LOT more fun. You really need a friend or three to get the most out of this game. There does seem to be a cheater problem in this game though. There's been quite a few questionable kills (headshot to both myself and friend midair while jumping off a roof from deep) over 21 hours played but only 1 completely obvious hacker.
 

maniacalpha1-1

Diamond Member
Feb 7, 2010
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Yea, watching people on the deathcam they definitely hit you even if their aim is a screen inch off you (behind you, not leading). If they're legit and the deathcam is wrong they should remove the deathcam til fixed.
 

aigomorla

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Sep 28, 2005
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I agree, nurturedhate. They should also think about separating the chinese servers from the rest of the world. That's where most hackers come from as far as I understand.

<Sarcasm>

But if hackers only had to play with other hackers, they wouldnt play the game at all..
They need Bait to kill and have fun because they cant seem to play and win the normal way.


On a serious note:
It wouldnt help much with China.
Most of them VPN anyhow to get past the great firewall of China.
So they would just hop VPN and wreck havok anyhow.

I honestly think games should NOT allow VPN's.
But meh, i guess that opens more issues like people who use WTFast because there ISP has decided to ignore net neutrality rules.
 

PrincessFrosty

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Feb 13, 2008
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I bought the game early last summer and only played a couple rounds before quitting. As a solo experience it's not fun. A friend recently bought it and we've been playing duo recently and it is a LOT more fun. You really need a friend or three to get the most out of this game. There does seem to be a cheater problem in this game though. There's been quite a few questionable kills (headshot to both myself and friend midair while jumping off a roof from deep) over 21 hours played but only 1 completely obvious hacker.

I agree with this. I think chasing that elusive chicken dinner is a large part of the fun and something only reasonably a handful of people can do with any regularity. Given there's only 1 winner in 100 and there's a lot of good players who will take the top 20 or so positions in the game almost every time.

I'm a fairly "average" player I'd say with a top 5% average in duo and something close to that in squad, but we chicken dinner like...well it's rare. But as a team of average players you can get close, for starters there's less teams only 25x 4 man or 50x duos, and teamwork over a mic with something like discord so you're coordinated and use flanking and things like that, it's a lot more fun. Solo is very boringm it just tends to drag on and you're more susceptible to random bad luck, the game is fairly well RNG based and squading up is one of the ways to mitigate that, on average spread across 4 you're less likely to have bad RNG on loot and mitigate bad luck by reviving each other, basically more survivability.

Cheating is massively on the rise, more so in the chinese servers thankfully, we've had a lot of games and only really 1-2 possible hackers. Deathcams are not synced well at all which hurts. Really they need steam/vac integration, but even without it, hopefully we'll see a wave of bans soon.

Separating Chinese servers can be done by locale (IP address) and the good thing about VPNs is they're easy to enumerate all the exit nodes and mass/ban taking out most of the hackers at once.
 

HumblePie

Lifer
Oct 30, 2000
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440
126
I agree with this. I think chasing that elusive chicken dinner is a large part of the fun and something only reasonably a handful of people can do with any regularity. Given there's only 1 winner in 100 and there's a lot of good players who will take the top 20 or so positions in the game almost every time.

I'm a fairly "average" player I'd say with a top 5% average in duo and something close to that in squad, but we chicken dinner like...well it's rare. But as a team of average players you can get close, for starters there's less teams only 25x 4 man or 50x duos, and teamwork over a mic with something like discord so you're coordinated and use flanking and things like that, it's a lot more fun. Solo is very boringm it just tends to drag on and you're more susceptible to random bad luck, the game is fairly well RNG based and squading up is one of the ways to mitigate that, on average spread across 4 you're less likely to have bad RNG on loot and mitigate bad luck by reviving each other, basically more survivability.

Cheating is massively on the rise, more so in the chinese servers thankfully, we've had a lot of games and only really 1-2 possible hackers. Deathcams are not synced well at all which hurts. Really they need steam/vac integration, but even without it, hopefully we'll see a wave of bans soon.

Separating Chinese servers can be done by locale (IP address) and the good thing about VPNs is they're easy to enumerate all the exit nodes and mass/ban taking out most of the hackers at once.


LOL VAC does nothing.

LMAObox for TF anyone? How many years did that go for until the dev screwed up and let out the source for the hack? There is a reason I don't play online shooters like this anymore. Just not fun to constantly lose to cheaters.
 

maniacalpha1-1

Diamond Member
Feb 7, 2010
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The more I play this game, the more I can't help but say, it's just a crime and shame that that big game world and higher player count only has single elimination deathmatch. I know it would be a lot of work, but add vehicles and other mechanics/respawning, and that big game world could have game modes built into it that would crush Battlefield. It's appropriately realistic gameplay on an infantry level, no 3d wallhack spotting for example, and would be a refreshing step away from the skill-equalizing of Battlefield. The only thing I personally believe they'd be forced to do is maybe tone down the recoil management a bit.
 

IndyColtsFan

Lifer
Sep 22, 2007
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I agree with this. I think chasing that elusive chicken dinner is a large part of the fun and something only reasonably a handful of people can do with any regularity. Given there's only 1 winner in 100 and there's a lot of good players who will take the top 20 or so positions in the game almost every time.

I'm a fairly "average" player I'd say with a top 5% average in duo and something close to that in squad, but we chicken dinner like...well it's rare. But as a team of average players you can get close, for starters there's less teams only 25x 4 man or 50x duos, and teamwork over a mic with something like discord so you're coordinated and use flanking and things like that, it's a lot more fun. Solo is very boringm it just tends to drag on and you're more susceptible to random bad luck, the game is fairly well RNG based and squading up is one of the ways to mitigate that, on average spread across 4 you're less likely to have bad RNG on loot and mitigate bad luck by reviving each other, basically more survivability.

Cheating is massively on the rise, more so in the chinese servers thankfully, we've had a lot of games and only really 1-2 possible hackers. Deathcams are not synced well at all which hurts. Really they need steam/vac integration, but even without it, hopefully we'll see a wave of bans soon.

Separating Chinese servers can be done by locale (IP address) and the good thing about VPNs is they're easy to enumerate all the exit nodes and mass/ban taking out most of the hackers at once.

Squad play is definitely the most entertaining. I haven't been playing much lately because some of the cheating was ridiculous. But about a month ago, I played in a squad with my brother and a couple of other friends (with a third guy sparing one of us occasionally). We played 8 games and won 7 - the only reason we didn't win the 8th was because we were killed by an obvious cheater. I think in those 7 games, there was only one game where any of us actually died and that might have been the best finish - I think we were jumped by several groups and 3 of the 4 of us died about mid-way through the game. The last guy on our team proceeded to wipe everyone out and went on to win singlehandedly. So when I play in a squad with those guys, we're almost always guaranteed at least a couple of wins. I still win a decent amount on duos with brothers or friends, but solo definitely seems to be tougher, as I only have a handful of wins with another handful of second place finishes, many of which I had a jump on the guy and made some bad decisions, costing me the game.

I'm just kind of over the game at this stage and am taking a break. Hopefully it will be fun for me again in a month or two.
 

IndyColtsFan

Lifer
Sep 22, 2007
33,656
687
126
The more I play this game, the more I can't help but say, it's just a crime and shame that that big game world and higher player count only has single elimination deathmatch. I know it would be a lot of work, but add vehicles and other mechanics/respawning, and that big game world could have game modes built into it that would crush Battlefield. It's appropriately realistic gameplay on an infantry level, no 3d wallhack spotting for example, and would be a refreshing step away from the skill-equalizing of Battlefield. The only thing I personally believe they'd be forced to do is maybe tone down the recoil management a bit.

They have hinted at new game modes but haven't given much detail. I definitely agree that they're going to have to add some new modes to the game to keep it fresh, along with continuing to crack down on the Chinese cheaters.
 

Feneant2

Golden Member
May 26, 2004
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Playing exclusively solo I'm getting a bit tired. I like how I can play a game and feel like I accomplished something (die) and don't have to save, load, remember where I was, what I was doing etc., but its the same maps, same guns, same everything and I'm hoping for more.

I was hoping to make a couple of bucks off the loot boxes but I opened 2 this week and the items have a total sale value of 0.07$ on steam... so much for buying another game with my PUBG proceeds.
 

nurturedhate

Golden Member
Aug 27, 2011
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Today - watched a duo sit outside the blue wall and take shots at us for close to 2 minutes, they never died. Got to the end of the round, 4 people left. One knocks down my partner, the other just walks towards me as I'm unloading into him, 3 headshots from an sks and two magazines from a scar. Walks up to me and shoots me. Watched the death cam and the guy took zero damage... What's the point of playing any more... Only slightly more irritating than the teleporting guy from a couple days ago or the guy who killed 30+ people within 2 minutes of the round starting. It's getting absurd.
 

pontifex

Lifer
Dec 5, 2000
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91
One way to find out but just keep in mind that it's battle royale, one death and you're out. You could wait 15-20 minutes for the next round (assuming you die immediately after parachuting in) or even if you exit the round to try again it still takes 2-5 minutes to try again.

Unless they've changed something since the last time I played, there is no "next round". once you die, you exit the game and join a new one.
 

pontifex

Lifer
Dec 5, 2000
43,806
46
91
The more I play this game, the more I can't help but say, it's just a crime and shame that that big game world and higher player count only has single elimination deathmatch. I know it would be a lot of work, but add vehicles and other mechanics/respawning, and that big game world could have game modes built into it that would crush Battlefield. It's appropriately realistic gameplay on an infantry level, no 3d wallhack spotting for example, and would be a refreshing step away from the skill-equalizing of Battlefield. The only thing I personally believe they'd be forced to do is maybe tone down the recoil management a bit.

there's no way this game could play like Battlefield. It's way too unoptimized for it. sure, there's 100 players in the game at the beginning but they are spread out over a huge map, so not everyone is in the same area together. And then, as players die, the amount of players in the server goes down. I just don't see this as a via Battlefield type game in its current state.
 

ImpulsE69

Lifer
Jan 8, 2010
14,946
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I wouldn't play this if it was BF clone. BF never lived up to what it was supposed to be. At least in this game if your squad decides to do wtfever they like, you can go about your business and still try to win and it matters not if they all die.
 
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