Playstation 3 press conference today...

[sonambulo]

why? do you own a part of nintendo?

 

[gshock888]

no. but it'd be sad to watch nintendo to go the way of sega, or worse, folding.

 

[Queasy]

Originally posted by: sonambulo
why? do you own a part of nintendo?

3 consoles in the market is ideal for consumers. The competition keeps prices down and innovation high.

 

[sonambulo]

so sad that...it makes you afraid?

 

[gshock888]

yeah i spent too many hours with the Mario Bros.

(go ahead, make fun!)

 

[ondarkness]

Originally posted by: sonambulo
why? do you own a part of nintendo?

No, prolly cuz that'll be the day creative games will cease to exist.

 

[purbeast0]

Originally posted by: gshock888

Originally posted by: Queasy

Originally posted by: gshock888
what original ideas have MS and sony come out with? except for their online connectivity, which is basically "stolen" from the pc gaming scene, nothing really.

MS - hard drive, Xbox Live! service (taking it even further with Xbox360)
Sony - Dual Analogs, they popularized CD-based console gaming after many failed attempts

I'm not trying to get into a pissing match but every console brings something different to the table. I just don't buy Nintendo being the only one with 'great' ideas.

i can say xbox hdd and live! service is just taking a page from pc gaming, and dual analog is just adding another stick to the analog stick from nintendo (and how many games use that second stick as a crucial control stick? Rise to honor? Ape escape? Death by Degrees? not a lot if you ask me)

im not into fanboy pissing matches either. i own all 3 systems now - GC, XBOX And PS2. its just my opinion that i think nintendo always have ideas, not always great ones, but definitely creative and innovative. while the other companies simply "build on" other ideas.

dude every FPS uses dual analog, as does any 3D platformer. and if you want to go the "well that was taken from a PC gaming machine" page, you could say the following:

analog on N64 - came from PC joysticks.
virtual boy - came from virtual reality (as shown on lawn mower man movie)
etc.

everything can come from "somewhere" if you dig deep enough.

 

[blurredvision]

In case someone hasn't posted yet, the press conference is at 3:00pm PST. 6pm for us eastern coasters.

 

[toekramp]

Originally posted by: blurredvision
In case someone hasn't posted yet, the press conference is at 3:00pm PST. 6pm for us eastern coasters.

thank ya sir

 

[Hammerhead]

Atari 2600 > *

 

[raystorm]

Originally posted by: Hammerhead
Sega Genesis > *

I agree!


I dont suppose there will be any sites that will have the press conference shown live?? I dont have G4 or anything like that.

 

[Staples]

It will not be shown live anywhere

 

[Queasy]

Originally posted by: raystorm
I dont suppose there will be any sites that will have the press conference shown live?? I dont have G4 or anything like that.

I imagine a couple of the gaming blog sites like Joystiq.com or Kotaku.com will have something. Live blogging mind you. Not a live feed or anything.

 

[StageLeft]

Xbox DID steal the spotlight. Everyone knew about the MTV thing. I didn't even know Sony had the PS3 at E3...in fact I don't care. Too late.

 

[digitalsm]

Originally posted by: cmp1223
I don't think MS "stole" the spotlight. I think the leaked images deflated the whole MTV/celebrity release party. And XBOX specs had been trickling in for a while. I think the PS3 will be the big thing for aleast a week

No it wont. Theres some much info coming out over the next week. Revolution, PS3, and Xbox 360 will share the spotlight.

 

[Queasy]

Originally posted by: digitalsm

Originally posted by: cmp1223
I don't think MS "stole" the spotlight. I think the leaked images deflated the whole MTV/celebrity release party. And XBOX specs had been trickling in for a while. I think the PS3 will be the big thing for aleast a week

No it wont. Theres some much info coming out over the next week. Revolution, PS3, and Xbox 360 will share the spotlight.

Yep. The question now is, who uses E3 the best to get the most spotlight?

 

[igowerf]

Originally posted by: Queasy

Originally posted by: gshock888
what original ideas have MS and sony come out with? except for their online connectivity, which is basically "stolen" from the pc gaming scene, nothing really.

MS - hard drive, Xbox Live! service (taking it even further with Xbox360)
Sony - Dual Analogs, they popularized CD-based console gaming after many failed attempts

I'm not trying to get into a pissing match but every console brings something different to the table. I just don't buy Nintendo being the only one with 'great' ideas.

I don't think Sony popularized CD based gaming. They just had the first successful CD based system. The dual analogues isn't really innovative since it's on the same line as adding more buttons to a controller. The little analogue nub on the PSP is pretty innovative though. Also, just to nit-pick, Sony originally designed their CD based system for Nintendo.

 

[gshock888]

boneheaded decision of the century to break off a partnership with sony, only to create the biggest competition they ever faced.

 

[Queasy]

Originally posted by: igowerf
I don't think Sony popularized CD based gaming. They just had the first successful CD based system. Also, just to nit-pick, Sony originally designed their CD based system for Nintendo.

Hence the "after many failed attempts" part of the sentence. And yes, everyone knows that Sony originally designed the CD based system for Nintendo and then Nintendo turned them down in favor of their cartridge based system. Another Nintendo success story!

 

[raystorm]

Originally posted by: igowerf

Originally posted by: Queasy

Originally posted by: gshock888
what original ideas have MS and sony come out with? except for their online connectivity, which is basically "stolen" from the pc gaming scene, nothing really.

MS - hard drive, Xbox Live! service (taking it even further with Xbox360)
Sony - Dual Analogs, they popularized CD-based console gaming after many failed attempts

I'm not trying to get into a pissing match but every console brings something different to the table. I just don't buy Nintendo being the only one with 'great' ideas.

I don't think Sony popularized CD based gaming. They just had the first successful CD based system. Also, just to nit-pick, Sony originally designed their CD based system for Nintendo.

They had the first worldwide success with a cd based system. The NEC PC Engine CD/TurboDuo system in Japan was hugely successful and was around since 1990 I think. Not sure the exact date of the CD system's release.

 

[igowerf]

Originally posted by: Queasy

Originally posted by: igowerf
I don't think Sony popularized CD based gaming. They just had the first successful CD based system. Also, just to nit-pick, Sony originally designed their CD based system for Nintendo.

Hence the "after many failed attempts" part of the sentence. And yes, everyone knows that Sony originally designed the CD based system for Nintendo and then Nintendo turned them down in favor of their cartridge based system. Another Nintendo success story!

That was the "official" reason why Nintendo turned down the CD based system. There were actually licensing issues and disagreements between the two companies that ended up breaking the joint venture.

 

[juice22]

ps3 la

 

[blurredvision]

Originally posted by: igowerf
I don't think Sony popularized CD based gaming. They just had the first successful CD based system. The dual analogues isn't really innovative since it's on the same line as adding more buttons to a controller. The little analogue nub on the PSP is pretty innovative though. Also, just to nit-pick, Sony originally designed their CD based system for Nintendo.

In order to "popularize" something, it has to be successful to some degree. You can't say the 3DO or cd-i popularized cd-based gaming, because they didn't. The playstation did. However, I think it's a stupid arguement to say who popularized cd-based gaming, because it's a moot point. Even if it mattered who started the cd gaming revolution, that belongs to the PC.

As for dual-analog, I do think that's innovative. Just because it's a simple idea doesn't mean it isn't innovative.

Anywho, I respect your opinions, just throwing mine in there.

 

[gshock888]

why do they alwyas bother to advertise next to the convention centers? i mean maybe for a car show but for a industry expo like E3? somebody bother to explain?

i understnad the PS3 ads as hyping it up, but Mortal kombat shaolin monks? wtf?

 

Anyone care to play "guess the specs?"

My guess:

CPU: 1 Cell processor @ 3.5ghz (1 PU + 2 SPEs)
GPU: Nvidia custom @ 400Mhz
Memory: 384MB split between GPU and system
Hard disk: None
WiFi: Built in
Media: Blu-Ray reader (no UMD reader)
Interfaces: USB 2.0, Bluetooth(?)