[Plaza] GTX 590 Simulated Performance... Rut Ro..

[Arkadrel]

With that beast o/c to 950mhz the only thing to bring to the fight would be 2-6990's

abit of a "over exaggeration"... *if* the 590 at those clocks are abit faster than the 6990@1ghz, meh... I assume most people would just let that lay there.

Honestly I dont think theres any games that ll run poorly on a 6990 OCed.

 

[Castiel]

With that beast o/c to 950mhz the only thing to bring to the fight would be 2-6990's

It's just a rumor. I haven't seen anything to confirm or deny

 

[MentalIlness]

Posted below.

 

[Castiel]

Looks alot like this Gigabyte GTX 295 cooler doesn't it ?

I always found that radeon cooler nasty

 

[MentalIlness]

Tweaktown just did some kamikaze testing with a 6990 @100% fan, max voltage @ 1000mhz and didn't beat stock gtx 580sli in most tests.
As long as the Nvidia card is well engineered and can o/c to stock 580 settings, its going to compete.
As far as being able to sell, these cards are Halo trophies, they don't need or want to sell a ton of these. They won't price them crazy low or crazy high imo.

Here is a non-story :
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 590 Cooler Cover Exposed

Or is it a GTX 295 cooler design ? Or are they using the design on the GTX 590 ?

 

[Baasha]

I hope they don't make the EVGA cards three slots! That would be retarded. I want two of them and if I had 6 slots or more available, I would get 4 GTX-580s anyway.

On that note, would 4 GTX-580s perform better than 2 GTX-590s? I hope the dual cards will trounce the quad gtx-580 setups.

 

[notty22]

It's just a rumor. I haven't seen anything to confirm or deny

Yeah, I'm just having fun.

 

[Skurge]

I always found that radeon cooler nasty

Nasty in a bad way?

I remember you had 2 of them.

 

[Phynaz]

How do they simulate power draw of one card with 2 cards?....Its already acknowledged that GPU sandwiches do not use the same power as 2 separate cards!

Close enough for horseshoes. Most of the single card components are doubled on a dual gpu card.

 

[MentalIlness]

I always found that radeon cooler nasty

Yes I agree. But I do like the GTX295 Gigabyte cooler. You know, not too long ago, they had that exact card...the GTX 295 Gigabyte on Newegg for.........$189.99..........the next morning when I went to add to cart, it said out of stock. They must have only had one or two of them. Would have been great for that price.

This was it. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814125283

 

[Lonyo]

How do they simulate power draw of one card with 2 cards?....Its already acknowledged that GPU sandwiches do not use the same power as 2 separate cards!

They didn't try and simulate the power consumption, they just showed what it was with SLI at those clocks with default voltages.

The one thing that is pretty irrelevant to the whole thing is the power consumption.
The benchmarks themselves are fine based on those being the clocks.

 

[Silverforce11]

There's nothing much the average people can't work out for themselves, it's either NV will stick to the 375W as per rumor or they wont.

If they will, it will be slower than a 6990 since they are working with a 200W difference already between 580s SLI and 1x 6990. NV's perf per watt is worse than AMD to start with.

I suspect they say "to hell with limits" and go for broke. It's just a halo part that enthusiasts will water cool anyway and dont care about TDP.

 

[Castiel]

Well hello Mr. 590

 

[Idontcare]

Just one fan to move enough air to dissipate ~400W+? It's either a 10,000 rpm fan or Nvidia has said to hell with temps and she's gonna be roasting at 150C under load.

 

[Castiel]

Just one fan to move enough air to dissipate ~400W+? It's either a 10,000 rpm fan or Nvidia has said to hell with temps and she's gonna be roasting at 150C under load.

Was thinking the same thing. They have to undervolt the shit out of these cores for just one fan

 

[tincart]

Just one fan to move enough air to dissipate ~400W+? It's either a 10,000 rpm fan or Nvidia has said to hell with temps and she's gonna be roasting at 150C under load.

If it were true, it could be a great marketing strategy. I'm still expecting a dual fan solution.

The world's first 150C graphics card! Our competitor can only manage >100C.

 

[Castiel]

What if they reversed the fan on the card to pull rather then push? It would draw air from outside the case for one core but meh.. The other core would get hot air as well

 

[Lonyo]

What if they reversed the fan on the card to pull rather then push? It would draw air from outside the case for one core but meh.. The other core would get hot air as well

Then you are going to be dumping all the hot air inside the case and roasting everything else.
The HD6990 system at least dumps HALF the air outside the case, even if not all.

 

[Arkadrel]

Just one fan to move enough air to dissipate ~400W+? It's either a 10,000 rpm fan or Nvidia has said to hell with temps and she's gonna be roasting at 150C under load.

/facepalm

They should have been sensable and just used 3 slot thick, giant mofo cooler (with 2-3 fans)...this things gonna run hotter than the 6990 <.< and probably louder too, if they go with a 1 fan setup.

 

[Ghiedo27]

Kinda doubtful that nvidia is expecting the reference cooler and wattage to be followed closely. I bet we're going to see exotic coolers and some form of 'stock' overclock with high variability in cost and performance between the manufacturers right at launch.

On the cooling side of things I don't think dumping hot air into the case is that big of a deal. The people with this card aren't going to be using a $60 case. SNB is limited more by voltage than temperate anyways, right (assuming people pushing these are going to be using 2500k+)? Top overclockers are going to be water cooling, so why not let things get a little bit toasty inside the case if it broadens MB compatibility.

 

[WelshBloke]

Kinda doubtful that nvidia is expecting the reference cooler and wattage to be followed closely. I bet we're going to see exotic coolers and some form of 'stock' overclock with high variability in cost and performance between the manufacturers right at launch.

On the cooling side of things I don't think dumping hot air into the case is that big of a deal. The people with this card aren't going to be using a $60 case. SNB is limited more by voltage than temperate anyways, right (assuming people pushing these are going to be using 2500k+)? Top overclockers are going to be water cooling, so why not let things get a little bit toasty inside the case if it broadens MB compatibility.

Yeah, most of the best aftermarket coolers also dump the hot air into the case.

Its easier to expel that air with a few 120mm fans than try and blow it all out the small gap in the back plate of a videocard.

 

[WelshBloke]

/facepalm

They should have been sensable and just used 3 slot thick, giant mofo cooler (with 2-3 fans)...this things gonna run hotter than the 6990 <.< and probably louder too, if they go with a 1 fan setup.

Neither Nvidia or AMD want to go with a reference 3 slot cooler. It cuts down on SLI/CF options.

There may be nonreference ones, but I cant imagine the market is that big for these cards so whether they bother putting any effort into making them... ?

 

[tijag]

You don't need a 580SLI or 6990 for 1920x1200 resolution. Testing at that resolution is kinda dumb in my opinion. Most purchasers of a beefy card like this are either going to be running at some sort of 2 or 3 monitor resolution. 5760x1080 being the most likely resolution, or at least the very large 2560x1600 resolution.

My point being that the best way to test these cards is most likely seeing how high they will run before they run out of memory. For most users of this kind of card, I think the 2gig frame buffer of the 6990 is likely to be a bigger factor in performance than the theoretical 'peak performance' of 2 580's stuck on a card.

 

[exar333]

You say that as if Nvidia has never released a more expensive but slower card before. They've done it several times.

If these performance numbers are true, NV probably would have done better by just dropping the 580 price $100 and making it tha much more competitive with both the 6970 (1x) and 6990 (2x SLI). Unless this card is prices aggressively around $600 (which it will not be) it doesn't make a lot of sense to release this unless you have a LOT of OC room on the card, assuming power consumption is not a worry or care.

 

[Castiel]

Then you are going to be dumping all the hot air inside the case and roasting everything else.
The HD6990 system at least dumps HALF the air outside the case, even if not all.

Get a case with lots of fans?