Please don't watch "V for Vendetta"

[Ichinisan]

Originally posted by: Aquaman
eh......... I thought the bad guys where "Fascist"? Was not the premise of the story ..... what if the Fascists won WWII and the story is set in a fascist future.

Cheers,
Aquaman

This movie has retooled the story. It has nothing to do with WWII. It clearly points the finger at our current US administration as the cause of this new oppressive government.

 

[CZroe]

Guys guys guys. Forget the argument; this movie is horrible even if you ignore all this political bullshiz.

Go there to confirm and further distort your political views if you want, but be warned:

The big-bad giant head-on-a-wall (ridiculous) speaks doom when he makes it clear that the cost of failure is termination of employment!

"Come morning, if you fail, I won't be reading the morning news... I'll be reading your resignation!"

Whatever happened to bodily hard or death? He's the bad guy and he talks like Mr. Spacely to George Jetson.

Also, I hope you're prone to having an epiphany just because the music score and on-screen character pretends to be. The audience was entirely lost. To do this without spoilers, look for it in the slow-mo rain soaking the bald chick.

 

[Ichinisan]

Originally posted by: Ephemeral
There is this crazy concept in life called, "entertainment," and believe it or not...some people actually know how to simply enjoy it.

It's not an enjoyable movie by any standard. There may be some elements of the movie to like (cinematography, acting, etc). If someone likes the movie itself, that person is probably not very bright. (or perhaps, a successfully brainwashed tool)

 

[BudAshes]

Originally posted by: Ichinisan

Originally posted by: Ephemeral
There is this crazy concept in life called, "entertainment," and believe it or not...some people actually know how to simply enjoy it.

It's not an enjoyable movie by any standard. There may be some elements of the movie to like (cinematography, acting, etc). If someone likes the movie itself, that person is probably not very bright. (or perhaps, a successfully brainwashed tool)

Or maybe they just dont take every insult to conservatism so seriously because they arent conservative brain washed tools? I havent seen the movie so thats just a theory.

 

[DivideBYZero]

Originally posted by: CorporateRecreation
You do realize that this is based on a book...

/thread and OP ownage. Please move on, people.

 

[Ichinisan]

Originally posted by: DivideBYZero

Originally posted by: CorporateRecreation
You do realize that this is based on a book...

/thread and OP ownage. Please move on, people.

You did see my reply that the book is 20 years old and that the story was changed significantly?

 

[DivideBYZero]

Originally posted by: Ichinisan

Originally posted by: DivideBYZero

Originally posted by: CorporateRecreation
You do realize that this is based on a book...

/thread and OP ownage. Please move on, people.

You did see my reply that the book is 20 years old and that the story was changed significantly?

:beating dead horse emoticon:

 

[elbosco]

Originally posted by: Ichinisan

...True religious leaders use their own lives and discipline as an examples of self control, forgiveness, and willingness to teach all who will listen. Is it too much to ask that religious leaders be depicted as those who actually believe in their convictions ... Conservative religions also teach that sinners should be loved and converted; not executed. Did Jesus set an example by executing "sinners?" No. It is taught that he loved them, healed them, and forgave their sins. The key word is "love". To say that Christianity teaches "tolerance" is a grievous understatement...

:music: The Inquisition, what a show.
The Inquisition, here we go.
We know you're wishin' that we'd go away!
So c'mon you Muslims and you Jews
We got big news for all of yous:
You'd better change your point of views TODAY!
'Cause the Inquisition's here and it's here to stay!:music:

 

[Ichinisan]

Originally posted by: elbosco

Originally posted by: Ichinisan

...True religious leaders use their own lives and discipline as an examples of self control, forgiveness, and willingness to teach all who will listen. Is it too much to ask that religious leaders be depicted as those who actually believe in their convictions ... Conservative religions also teach that sinners should be loved and converted; not executed. Did Jesus set an example by executing "sinners?" No. It is taught that he loved them, healed them, and forgave their sins. The key word is "love". To say that Christianity teaches "tolerance" is a grievous understatement...

:music: The Inquisition, what a show.
The Inquisition, here we go.
We know you're wishin' that we'd go away!
So c'mon you Muslims and you Jews
We got big news for all of yous:
You'd better change your point of views TODAY!
'Cause the Inquisition's here and it's here to stay!:music:

That sounds like religious leaders that do not live by their own creed. Certainly not an example of "true" (read: moral) leaders in a religion that could be portrayed as conservative.

 

[OhioState]

Originally posted by: notfred
Your post made me want to watch it more.

BTW, most of us here are adult enough to make up our own minds about the information presented to us, without having our movies/books/games/etc be pre-screened for content by you or anyone else.

No one made you read all of his post if you dont want your information screened then dont read it.

Thanks OP for the review i will NOT see this movie. Cheers.

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: UNCjigga
Again, you need to read up on fascism. Completely fictional? Read up on Germany's National Socialist Worker's Party circa 1933-1945.

Fascism is a leftist movement. A collectivist movement by definition.

Originally posted by: Ephemeral
There is this crazy concept in life called, "entertainment," and believe it or not...some people actually know how to simply enjoy it.

All mass entertainment is propaganda these days. It's the pinnacle of product placement.


It sounds to me (from reading reviews, etc.) that someone stole the basic plot from Heinlein's Revolt in 2100 and ran with it.

 

[0roo0roo]

Originally posted by: elbosco

Originally posted by: Ichinisan

...True religious leaders use their own lives and discipline as an examples of self control, forgiveness, and willingness to teach all who will listen. Is it too much to ask that religious leaders be depicted as those who actually believe in their convictions ... Conservative religions also teach that sinners should be loved and converted; not executed. Did Jesus set an example by executing "sinners?" No. It is taught that he loved them, healed them, and forgave their sins. The key word is "love". To say that Christianity teaches "tolerance" is a grievous understatement...

:music: The Inquisition, what a show.
The Inquisition, here we go.
We know you're wishin' that we'd go away!
So c'mon you Muslims and you Jews
We got big news for all of yous:
You'd better change your point of views TODAY!
'Cause the Inquisition's here and it's here to stay!:music:

tis true, but atleast jesus never coveted government power. he wasn't a military leader/head of state mixing church and state and violence through religious prophet like the muslim prophet. theres bad..theres worse. just sayin is all

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: Ichinisan

Originally posted by: elbosco

Originally posted by: Ichinisan

...True religious leaders use their own lives and discipline as an examples of self control, forgiveness, and willingness to teach all who will listen. Is it too much to ask that religious leaders be depicted as those who actually believe in their convictions ... Conservative religions also teach that sinners should be loved and converted; not executed. Did Jesus set an example by executing "sinners?" No. It is taught that he loved them, healed them, and forgave their sins. The key word is "love". To say that Christianity teaches "tolerance" is a grievous understatement...

:music: The Inquisition, what a show.
The Inquisition, here we go.
We know you're wishin' that we'd go away!
So c'mon you Muslims and you Jews
We got big news for all of yous:
You'd better change your point of views TODAY!
'Cause the Inquisition's here and it's here to stay!:music:

That sounds like religious leaders that do not live by their own creed. Certainly not an example of "true" (read: moral) leaders in a religion that could be portrayed as conservative.

The Inquisition was a government agenda. The issue is that back then the government was almost indistinguishable from the church. In reality though, it was the inevitable pogrom following the overthrow of hundreds of years of Islamic occupation. I'm not apologizing for it (far from it), just trying to prevent a similar occurrence.

 

[BudAshes]

Originally posted by: Ichinisan

Originally posted by: elbosco

Originally posted by: Ichinisan

...True religious leaders use their own lives and discipline as an examples of self control, forgiveness, and willingness to teach all who will listen. Is it too much to ask that religious leaders be depicted as those who actually believe in their convictions ... Conservative religions also teach that sinners should be loved and converted; not executed. Did Jesus set an example by executing "sinners?" No. It is taught that he loved them, healed them, and forgave their sins. The key word is "love". To say that Christianity teaches "tolerance" is a grievous understatement...

:music: The Inquisition, what a show.
The Inquisition, here we go.
We know you're wishin' that we'd go away!
So c'mon you Muslims and you Jews
We got big news for all of yous:
You'd better change your point of views TODAY!
'Cause the Inquisition's here and it's here to stay!:music:

That sounds like religious leaders that do not live by their own creed. Certainly not an example of "true" (read: moral) leaders in a religion that could be portrayed as conservative.

Christianity is insanity. It even sort of rhymes.

I really do consider anyone religious more than a little crazy.

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: Xafgoat

Originally posted by: Ichinisan

Originally posted by: elbosco

Originally posted by: Ichinisan

...True religious leaders use their own lives and discipline as an examples of self control, forgiveness, and willingness to teach all who will listen. Is it too much to ask that religious leaders be depicted as those who actually believe in their convictions ... Conservative religions also teach that sinners should be loved and converted; not executed. Did Jesus set an example by executing "sinners?" No. It is taught that he loved them, healed them, and forgave their sins. The key word is "love". To say that Christianity teaches "tolerance" is a grievous understatement...

:music: The Inquisition, what a show.
The Inquisition, here we go.
We know you're wishin' that we'd go away!
So c'mon you Muslims and you Jews
We got big news for all of yous:
You'd better change your point of views TODAY!
'Cause the Inquisition's here and it's here to stay!:music:

That sounds like religious leaders that do not live by their own creed. Certainly not an example of "true" (read: moral) leaders in a religion that could be portrayed as conservative.

Christianity is insanity. It even sort of rhymes.

I really do consider anyone religious more than a little crazy.

I'm curious. What's your position on the possibility of intelligent alien life?

 

[BudAshes]

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: Xafgoat

Originally posted by: Ichinisan

Originally posted by: elbosco

Originally posted by: Ichinisan

...True religious leaders use their own lives and discipline as an examples of self control, forgiveness, and willingness to teach all who will listen. Is it too much to ask that religious leaders be depicted as those who actually believe in their convictions ... Conservative religions also teach that sinners should be loved and converted; not executed. Did Jesus set an example by executing "sinners?" No. It is taught that he loved them, healed them, and forgave their sins. The key word is "love". To say that Christianity teaches "tolerance" is a grievous understatement...

:music: The Inquisition, what a show.
The Inquisition, here we go.
We know you're wishin' that we'd go away!
So c'mon you Muslims and you Jews
We got big news for all of yous:
You'd better change your point of views TODAY!
'Cause the Inquisition's here and it's here to stay!:music:

That sounds like religious leaders that do not live by their own creed. Certainly not an example of "true" (read: moral) leaders in a religion that could be portrayed as conservative.

Christianity is insanity. It even sort of rhymes.

I really do consider anyone religious more than a little crazy.

I'm curious. What's your position on the possibility of intelligent alien life?

Well considering ive been abducted by extraterrestrials twice, id say its pretty possible.

 

[Ichinisan]

Originally posted by: Xafgoat
Christianity is insanity. It even sort of rhymes.

I really do consider anyone religious more than a little crazy.

I tried to not directly insult anyone or any group (except the directors...)

 

[Tab]

You better tread lightly, Xafgoat...

 

[elbosco]

Originally posted by: Ichinisan

I for one believe that the most primal function of art is to make something that is pleasurable to behold. The Wachowski brothers seem to like art that is revolting, perverted, hateful, or inciteful. Anyone who expresses distaste for something that is meant to cause disgust is an enemy of free expression

The primary function of art is to express or reflect a message, mood or symbol or the viewer to interpret. Some artists aim to elicit strong emotions from others, which this movie has done for some people. Art can create a sense of beauty but it most certainly isn't a prerequisite.

 

[sandorski]

meh, i'm gonna watch it anyway.

 

[elbosco]

Originally posted by: sandorski
meh, i'm gonna watch it anyway.

The last 5 minutes are awesome in every sense of the word.

 

[xSauronx]

Originally posted by: Mani
Sorry dude, despite the work you put into that post, it will convince exactly zero people not to see this movie.

indeed

thing is

i didnt want to see it to start with, looks like a bad mix of 1984 and zorro.

 

[Ephemeral]

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: UNCjigga
Again, you need to read up on fascism. Completely fictional? Read up on Germany's National Socialist Worker's Party circa 1933-1945.

Fascism is a leftist movement. A collectivist movement by definition.

Originally posted by: Ephemeral
There is this crazy concept in life called, "entertainment," and believe it or not...some people actually know how to simply enjoy it.

All mass entertainment is propaganda these days. It's the pinnacle of product placement.


It sounds to me (from reading reviews, etc.) that someone stole the basic plot from Heinlein's Revolt in 2100 and ran with it.

And there are people who will choose to see or to not see this film based on many factors, not just political affiliation, or personal viewpoints on how mass media is presented to an audience. If you want to discredit a film based on its, "propaganda," that is one thing, you didn?t enjoy the film and that is your reason why...but to state that one should not find entertainment in it, or is even inferior in some aspect for doing so, is quite thick-headed. It would have been better for the OP to pre-face his argument with, "I was disappointed by V for Vendetta."

 

[BudAshes]

Maybe being Christian actually makes you more sane most of the time. It lets you focus and forget your crazy, god is gonna make everything ok, just be a good little sheep. The thoughts of why are we hear, and what are we really, and whether this all has a point doesnt matter. Gods taking care of it so you can think about your stocks, your new car and the Yankees until armageddon comes.

 

[CZroe]

Originally posted by: Xafgoat
Maybe being Christian actually makes you more sane most of the time. It lets you focus and forget your crazy, god is gonna make everything ok, just be a good little sheep. The thoughts of why are we hear, and what are we really, and whether this all has a point doesnt matter. Gods taking care of it so you can think about your stocks, your new car and the Yankees until armageddon comes.

Dear God stop typing these abominations.

I refer to your grammar and punctuation. HERESY!