Please don't watch "V for Vendetta"

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Steeplerot

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Mar 29, 2004
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Originally posted by: Ichinisan
Originally posted by: Eeezee
The movie was well-done. The main character, V, did not have as much development as I would have liked, but the movie served its purpose very well; entertainment.

Honestly, what about this movie was bad? The effects were great. The story was great (it's difficult to screw up a successful comic book series). The acting was great. The camera work was great. The beginning and ending were excellent (the most important parts to any movie).

You can't really compare the movie to anything going on in politics right now. I'm surprised that a conservative of all people went through the trouble of making such a relation. It's obvious that our government has very little in common with the government in this movie. It's true that our government has some similarities with fascism. You're in absolute ignorance if you're going to waste time denying that. However, claiming that the movie was a bash against the US government because of these few similarities is really just grasping at straws.

If you dislike this movie, then why aren't you being critical of 1984 or the original novels? Yes, I know, you claim that they have drastically altered the original storyline. Did you actually read the original comics? Your outright denial of the similarities is proof that you didn't read the comics at all (or that you weren't paying any attention as you read them).

The movie was based on the comics. Go send angry letters to the authors or something. Telling people to not see this movie because you have a skewed political viewpoint is an unhealthy attitude. This is ATOT, most of us are smart enough to make our own decisions even though this movie really doesn't say anything about American conservatives.

Did you realize when you posted that people with go watch the movie and their jaw will drop when they see what you have said?

Every moment where a character has an epiphany or develops a conviction, the audience hears dramatic music and doesn't know what the hell is going on. That is absolutely terrible movie-making. The ending of the movie:

I didn't see any reason to believe that the fascist government propaganda system did not adequately defame the terrorist enough to sway public opinion? They attributed viral diseases and explosions to him and the people had no reason to believe otherwise. The viewer is expected to believe that all the people who have been brainwashed into believing that the terrorist is responsible for so many deaths. Then then, the final clichéd scene shows not a single soul that does not support the "terrorist". If the public was so completely supportive, why was it that NONE of the guards and officials had changed their mind? Oh. Their not people. They're evil because they work for the evil "conservative" government.

This movie blatantly said that the US was responsible for the state of their goverment and the rest of the world. If you missed that, you need to watch the movie again. I'm sorry I don't have clips for you, but you'll want to revise your statement the next time you watch the movie or look extremely silly.

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Almost forgot to quote Eeezee. Sorry, Ephemeral.
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Kinda funny, you are just drawing attention and making more people that disagree with you want to see it more.

A lot of people nowdays DO see parellels to what is happening in this country, I guess you don't "get" what is going on nowdays and the irony of a movie that takes place in britian is lost on you.

Anyhow, good job getting the message out that this movie scares people like you, that sends a huge message out to readers who may have been iffy on going or not.
 

ElMonoDelMar

Golden Member
Apr 29, 2004
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I saw it last night, and thought it was good. If nothing else, ignore the politics and go see it for the good movie that it is.
 

AmericanRebel

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Sep 18, 2005
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V for Vendetta was a fantastic movie, much better then the usual filth hollywood comes out with; it was one of the few movies i have ever seen truly worth the $7.50 for a tiket. It contains magnificent, although at time predictable, allusions to history, religeon, and literature. The scenario ,although seemingly far-fetched, is a fairly accurate and therefore alarming rehash of things that have happened before. The main charachter is unarguably a BA. The only slight problem is the movies length and ever so slight lack of plot focus (there is a lot to the movie after all).
 

kogase

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Sep 8, 2004
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Does Hugo Weaving have a gigantic egg-head or does he just look like that because he's balding?
 

DukeN

Golden Member
Dec 12, 1999
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What a retarded OP - I guess someone forgot to tell him/her its based on a (comic?) book.

Awesome movie btw!
 

Choralone

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Dec 2, 1999
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Originally posted by: ShadowBlade
I hate morons who read way too much into movies and literature. Even if you don't agree with the ideals which may have been given in the movie, ignore it and ENJOY THE FVCKING MOVIE.

"I'm not going to go see the movie because its anti-conservitive" is the same as saying "I'm not going to look out my window because my neighbor is ugly"

You miss the point of movies in general. TO ENTERTAIN PEOPLE. There is so much more to any movie than whatever symbolism or extended meaning the makers of the movie decide to put into it.

You cannot tell me, being a long-time member of anandtech, that you do not, at least to some degree, enjoy a good fight scene in a movie. Hey, so what if the guy has some stereotypical veiws about conservatists, it makes a good fight scene.

--For the record, I just saw the movie, it was incredible

My thoughts almost exactly. Only I didn't think the movie was incredible, but I did enjoy it quite a lot! Even though I was expecting more action I'm glad there wasn't a lot of action and there was a lot of talking. I'm tired of films that just blow stuff up from beginning to end and throw in dialogue as an afterthought. :roll:

:thumbsup: For for this movie!



 

LtPage1

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Jan 15, 2004
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you're taking the word "conservative" literally. obviously this fictional party is way beyond any actual party that calls itself "conservative" today.
 

MrChad

Lifer
Aug 22, 2001
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I saw the movie last night and loved it. I'd consider myself more Libertarian than anything else.

There are definitely strong political undertones in the film, but to me the main message of the film is to warn about the dangers of combining fear with politics. In the film, the chancellor rises to power by capitalizing on the people's fear of famine, disease and war. You can certainly draw comparisons to the "War on Terror" and the fear of terrorism that has brought about sweeping political reforms both in the United States and abroad. I equated the government in the film more with fascism than neo-conservatism. But to each his own. The fact that it will spark discussions and debates such as this one is a a testament to the strength of the film.
 

exodus454

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Apr 11, 2004
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I saw the movie too, and although there are some strong political aspects of the movie, it was still such a good movie. If you're conservative you'll probably have quite a problem with it, but the overall message and relativity to today's society made it very easy to suspend your disbelief for awhile and get completely enthralled in the movie.

Good stuff.
 

Kung Lau

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Oct 13, 1999
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Just saw this movie. Fantastic film.

The op apparently is moved by the film.

Power to the people!
 

jlee

Lifer
Sep 12, 2001
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Originally posted by: exodus454
I saw the movie too, and although there are some strong political aspects of the movie, it was still such a good movie. If you're conservative you'll probably have quite a problem with it, but the overall message and relativity to today's society made it very easy to suspend your disbelief for awhile and get completely enthralled in the movie.

Good stuff.

I lean towards the conservative side and I have absolutely no problem with this movie.

Excellent movie - amazing actress, too.

Originally posted by: SophalotJack
natalie portman = good.

nobody else gets this?

:thumbsup:^infinity
 

K1052

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Aug 21, 2003
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I just got back from seeing this at an IMAX theatre, the presentation was quite good.

The movie itself seemed to borrow liberally (no pun intended) from recent and not so recent political history. I wouldn't equate the 'conservatism' displayed in the film to what we see today in mainstream politics. It is an extremely radical one, much more akin to authoritarian nationalism like the Nazi rise to power (major themes, symbolism, and even words are lifted). Though, I have seen Bush compared to Hitler a number of times (on this forum even) so that may well have been the intent in the film even though I may disagree with that assessment.

I saw almost nothing depicted that would not have resulted had an equally extreme government of the leftist persuasion enjoyed such power. Destruction or repression of art and freedoms, state persecution of socially undesirable people, protection of the state at all costs, suppression of history/knowledge, etc...

For the flip side of this coin people should go rent 1984. As an added treat John Hurt (who plays the Chancellor in Vendetta) plays the protagonist in the film.
 

Goosemaster

Lifer
Apr 10, 2001
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Originally posted by: K1052
I just got back from seeing this at an IMAX theatre, the presentation was quite good.

The movie itself seemed to borrow liberally (no pun intended) from recent and not so recent political history. I wouldn't equate the 'conservatism' displayed in the film to what we see today in mainstream politics. It is an extremely radical one, much more akin to authoritarian nationalism like the Nazi rise to power (major themes, symbolism, and even words are lifted). Though, I have seen Bush compared to Hitler a number of times (on this forum even) so that may well have been the intent in the film even though I may disagree with that assessment.

I saw almost nothing depicted that would not have resulted had an equally extreme government of the leftist persuasion enjoyed such power. Destruction or repression of art and freedoms, state persecution of socially undesirable people, protection of the state at all costs, suppression of history/knowledge, etc...

For the flip side of this coin people should go rent 1984. As an added treat John Hurt (who plays the Chancellor in Vendetta) plays the protagonist in the film.

I have been told time and time again not to see 1984. It is supposed to be awful compared to the book, which I adore.
 

K1052

Elite Member
Aug 21, 2003
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Originally posted by: Goosemaster
Originally posted by: K1052
I just got back from seeing this at an IMAX theatre, the presentation was quite good.

The movie itself seemed to borrow liberally (no pun intended) from recent and not so recent political history. I wouldn't equate the 'conservatism' displayed in the film to what we see today in mainstream politics. It is an extremely radical one, much more akin to authoritarian nationalism like the Nazi rise to power (major themes, symbolism, and even words are lifted). Though, I have seen Bush compared to Hitler a number of times (on this forum even) so that may well have been the intent in the film even though I may disagree with that assessment.

I saw almost nothing depicted that would not have resulted had an equally extreme government of the leftist persuasion enjoyed such power. Destruction or repression of art and freedoms, state persecution of socially undesirable people, protection of the state at all costs, suppression of history/knowledge, etc...

For the flip side of this coin people should go rent 1984. As an added treat John Hurt (who plays the Chancellor in Vendetta) plays the protagonist in the film.

I have been told time and time again not to see 1984. It is supposed to be awful compared to the book, which I adore.

The book is certainly far superior.

I was going under the assumption that reading a book is too much work for the average OT'r. Have you seen what happens when someone posts something that equals a couple pages of printed text?
 

Babbles

Diamond Member
Jan 4, 2001
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I haven't seen the movie and as such don't know much about any message, but I have yet to read any review of the movie that put it in a good light. Based on that I don't think I will be watching it.
 

ndruw

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Feb 7, 2006
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good movie - but WAY to harsh towards the right

cmon liberals, thats a low blow

who directed this again,
wachowskis or moore?
 
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