Please help - need 24" 4:3 lcd monitor

Fuelrod

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Need your help guys. Without getting into all the details, the short story is a need a 24" 4:3 lcd monitor for work. I saw one awhile back on newegg for $2000 but it is not there anymore. Does anyone know of a manufacture that makes larger than 21" 4:3 lcd monitors. Cost is really not an issue.
 

Arkaign

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Would be cheaper/easier to just get a 30" Wide, and use powerstrip or disable stretching to make a 1:1 pixel perfect 4:3 resolution. Ignore the black bars on the left and right of the image (maybe have it masked with a high-quality cover).

Another benefit is that old LCDS < new LCDS. Response time, contrast ratio, etc, will all be much better on a nice new 2560x1536 widescreen than an old 4:3 1600x1200 or what have you.
 

Fuelrod

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Originally posted by: Arkaign
Would be cheaper/easier to just get a 30" Wide, and use powerstrip or disable stretching to make a 1:1 pixel perfect 4:3 resolution. Ignore the black bars on the left and right of the image (maybe have it masked with a high-quality cover).

Another benefit is that old LCDS < new LCDS. Response time, contrast ratio, etc, will all be much better on a nice new 2560x1536 widescreen than an old 4:3 1600x1200 or what have you.

Unfortunately the application it is going into I won't be able the "ignore" the black bars on the side. It will be used as a duel monitor setup so the lcd's will be side by side. I can't have the black bars and I can't have a stretched image either. It has to be 4:3 native.
 

Arkaign

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Ah, that sucks. I hate to say it, but 4:3 large LCDs were only available for a short time, were tremendously expensive, and *MUCH* lower in quality than the CRTs. The best one was the SyncMaster 240T by Samsung, and it was $9,999 new. Hard to find on the used market, but the color accuracy, response time, viewing angles are all atrocious compared to CRTs or modern LCDs. The 240T is 5 years old now. 20" is the largest commercially available 4:3 size still out there, and they're somewhat rare. Is desk space a huge issue? Two of these would provide exceptional quality for cheap :

Ebay 21" QXGA CRT

Failing that, you can buy a new 20-21" 4:3 LCD, or scour for a used obsolete larger 4:3 LCD (not recommended, they will be outrageously expensive, poor in quality, and a disaster if anything breaks on them, which is pretty common with older LCD monitors with the power board, inverter board, and vga boards being the primary culprits).

What is the application? Maybe there is a workaround for a wide aspect.
 

Viper GTS

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21.3" 1600x1200 is the closest thing to what you're looking for that is easily found.

Viper GTS
 

Arkaign

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The best 4:3 LCD is the Dell 2007FP, AFAIK. Excellent color, brightness, contrast, viewing angle, and refresh.
 

Arkaign

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Ah, just thought of something else. Depending on the layout of where it's going to be hooked up, you could use two very high end projectors to project two large 4:3 aspect displays onto a surface. The advantages of this are : flexible screen size, and you could align them so that they match up EXACTLY. With two LCDs, you have the bezels separating the images, which will at least be an inch or two. If the black bars on a 30" would annoy you, then that probably will too.

You can go up pretty high on those suckers, check out the Sanyo PLCUF15 7700 ANSI Lumens 1600x1200 LCD Projector .. it's a little under $30,000.
 

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If you use black bars and analog input, you should be able to shift the image position on one monitor flush right, and the other flush left. I won't have access to my Dell 24" for a while, so I can't tell you if will shift far enough with the built-in controls, but perhaps others can tell you if it works on their 24"rs. Alternatively, if you're handy with electronics, it's pretty easy to build a circuit that will shift the analog sync signal forwards or backwards to move the image left or right on the screen. Not the easiest solution in the world, but probably a lot easier than coming-up with and taking care of a couple of custom monitors.
 

Fuelrod

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What is the application? Maybe there is a workaround for a wide aspect.


Thanks for all the suggestions. The application is for process control displays that have all been designed for 4:3 resolutions. It's going to cost $30,000+ to convert all the displays to wide screen formate but it is looking like we are going to have to bite the bullet and do it. Thanks again Arkaign.
 

Arkaign

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Originally posted by: Fuelrod
What is the application? Maybe there is a workaround for a wide aspect.


Thanks for all the suggestions. The application is for process control displays that have all been designed for 4:3 resolutions. It's going to cost $30,000+ to convert all the displays to wide screen formate but it is looking like we are going to have to bite the bullet and do it. Thanks again Arkaign.

Yikes. Well I'm happy to at least help somewhat, good luck with your project! It would be something I'm sure we would like to hear about when it moves from 4:3 to 16:9, or 16:10. It's pretty wild how dead 4:3 has become, I'm guessing it gets expensive for a lot of specialized apps like yours.

Cheers, Ark
 

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Costco has an HP computer bundle pretty much kick ass: 24" WS LCD, Duo Core 67?? (don't remember). 2 Gb DDR, TV Tuner.... all for $1300. The LCD is beautiful, and can be rotated 90 degree which is good for reading comics LOL. The LCD alone costs $600 at CC. You should check it out at Costco.
 

CBone

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KDS makes the Radius RAD-23 23.1in 1600x1200 LCD. They've been on ebay and some other sites plenty of times in the last few months at some really good prices. I was considering getting a couple earlier this year. A few minutes googling, a few emails and some phone calls and you shouldn't have trouble scoring a couple.
 
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