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Fayd

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For a class I am enrolled in, I have to create a 3-5 minute PP on my idea how to fix the poverty trends in North Carolina. That's exactly my problem, I have no idea how to fix poverty trends. I first thought of subsidizing college education for poverty stricken kids but poverty stricken kids could care less about education

I feel as if I need to do something with creating jobs but congress can't figure that out so I can't either. All input is appreciated!

take a look at why jobs are leaving your state? jobs leave states for a few reasons:

over reliance on one industry that when a competing industry in another state has an advantage, jobs will move there.
over taxing businesses to the point they're willing to leave (this is what's happening in california)

take a look at why existing programs aren't making an impact?

culture of "ghetto + food stamps = cool". don't know how prevalent this is in north carolina.
kids don't care about their future? a friend of the family decided to become a teacher after leaving the defense contractor he was working for. he was an engineer, lakota sioux heritage. went back to the reservation to try to get students interested in getting off the reservation, doing something with their lives. got disgusted that they just wanted to drink and nothing else.

repressive licensing and restriction on business in NC?

states each have their own nuances on business creation and operation. some of those licensing procedures can simply take forever, even if you're doing everything above board. kickbacks to speed this process can also be exorbitant.
 

TuxDave

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If this is for homework I don't see why you have to come up with a solution that's guaranteed to work.

Just look up some case studies of how other places raised jobs (increase incentives for companies to come to your state) and how to improve education etc.... Then just say "oh if it worked for them, then we should do it". BAM done.
 

Buckeye269

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I"m going to raise income tax for each economic class accordingly, then subsidize college education to the point of being free.
 

Fayd

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I"m going to raise income tax for each economic class accordingly, then subsidize college education to the point of being free.

and you seem to think that free college means that people will get out of poverty?

what a laugh. it's that kind of dumb thinking continually perpetuated to pre-college teens that is cause for all the idiots pursuing useless degrees.

state college is already subsidized. if you live in that state, it's nearly to the point of free.

if you want to subsidize anything, look at trade schools. look up mike rowe's address to congress on the lack of skilled labor available because of an over-focus on college.

but wait: trade schools are already subsidized. perhaps you ought to go back to my original suggestion and take a look at WHY EXISTING PROGRAMS AREN'T BEING UTILIZED?...
 

MagnusTheBrewer

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and you seem to think that free college means that people will get out of poverty?

what a laugh. it's that kind of dumb thinking continually perpetuated to pre-college teens that is cause for all the idiots pursuing useless degrees.

state college is already subsidized. if you live in that state, it's nearly to the point of free.

if you want to subsidize anything, look at trade schools. look up mike rowe's address to congress on the lack of skilled labor available because of an over-focus on college.

but wait: trade schools are already subsidized. perhaps you ought to go back to my original suggestion and take a look at WHY EXISTING PROGRAMS AREN'T BEING UTILIZED?...

Oy, because everyone knows, you HAVE to go to college to get ahead.
 

MagnusTheBrewer

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Oh, you rolled eyes...very confusing.

KT

I rolled eyes at my own statement. The OP could do worse than listening to Mike Rowes address as was suggested. Maybe if a few more students were to draw attention to his points, fewer educators would stop propagating the lie.
 

DrPizza

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Screw subsidizing college - waste of money. There's a very strong correlation between poverty and success in school. You'd just be throwing money away. Instead, try to develop more alternative types of higher learning for people in poverty - apprenticeship sorts of arrangements where they make a shitload more money working hard than they do sitting around the house. Suggestions: various pieces of the infrastructure. I'm sure that there's a lot of grunt work to be done on road crews and such.

What the state could do is subsidize the employees to the employers. i.e. if the road crews are paying $18 per hour for working, an arrangement where if they accept these workers that had formerly been on welfare, then the construction companies get $6 or however many dollars toward that $18 per hour. Very low tolerance policies for people late, calling in, etc. Start with the younger kids; around 14 years old for after school jobs - get them working, responsible, and learning that they can do a lot better off welfare than on welfare.


Reform welfare - you can play with these numbers, but let's say that if you're on welfare more than 10 months, then any children you have after that, provided you have a total of more than two children, do NOT increase your monthly payments. i.e. remove the incentive to generate another generation of addicted to welfare offspring.

More reform: for those first two children, you do NOT get more money on welfare *unless* the father's name is on the birth certificate. State goes after deadbeat fathers - make an example out of more and more of them & then such males might be a bit more reluctant about having sex without wrapping it up. Put some teeth into it - seize assets such as cars.



There, does that help? OHHHh, and here's the best idea: Pay for one way tickets and moving expenses to go to other far away states. Send all your welfare people to California! Let them be someone else's problem. (i.e. see Southpark's episode on panhandlers.)
 

zinfamous

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For a class I am enrolled in, I have to create a 3-5 minute PP on my idea how to fix the poverty trends in North Carolina. That's exactly my problem, I have no idea how to fix poverty trends. I first thought of subsidizing college education for poverty stricken kids but poverty stricken kids could care less about education

I feel as if I need to do something with creating jobs
but congress can't figure that out so I can't either. All input is appreciated!

Boy, you're just dumber'n a bag 'a hammers, ain't ya?
 

Buckeye269

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My final "solution" I used. Allow college to be available for free to all poor kids who want to go but don't have the means to get there. To pay for it, I'm raising state income taxes ~2% for every household. This raises the $3 billion plus needed. Since extra money is going to be available from my surplus of funds, they could be sent toward grade school and high school advancements.
 

MagnusTheBrewer

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My final "solution" I used. Allow college to be available for free to all poor kids who want to go but don't have the means to get there. To pay for it, I'm raising state income taxes ~2% for every household. This raises the $3 billion plus needed. Since extra money is going to be available from my surplus of funds, they could be sent toward grade school and high school advancements.

Good job! You have a future as a politician. :'(
 

Lifted

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My final "solution" I used. Allow college to be available for free to all poor kids who want to go but don't have the means to get there. To pay for it, I'm raising state income taxes ~2% for every household. This raises the $3 billion plus needed. Since extra money is going to be available from my surplus of funds, they could be sent toward grade school and high school advancements.

No no no. Not every household, just the middle class. If your proposal to raise taxes 2% includes the top 1%, the politicians asking for your advice won't have any campaign funds.
 

Fayd

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My final "solution" I used. Allow college to be available for free to all poor kids who want to go but don't have the means to get there. To pay for it, I'm raising state income taxes ~2% for every household. This raises the $3 billion plus needed. Since extra money is going to be available from my surplus of funds, they could be sent toward grade school and high school advancements.

what a retard.
 

MagnusTheBrewer

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where u at in ohio? i stalk ohio ppl

anyway, u will have to consider tradeoffs.

first, lure in business. tax incentives, other perks, agreements to copay facilities construction, etc, something lucrative. state + tax money will have to invest. u will get less tax from corporate yet in the end may come out better overall. provide jobs, jobs from construction, ppl get money, spend money, buy homes, stimulate local enocomies, ripple out, etc. get corporate involved in goodwill/apprenticeship/scholarship programs so they will have trained ample supply of slave...err workforce

second, have state conduct research on its resources and what goods/services it provides now, what goods/services it may provide in the future. work on expanding/building that type of infrastructure. etc

OP, you can learn from this guy. He said all the right words, never pausing for breathe and managed to say absolutely nothing. A prime candidate for office if I've ever heard one.
 

Buckeye269

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Keep in mind this is just a project to help our middle class student better understand poverty. We didn't have to get exact logistics but I always try to go farther than minimum requirements. Thanks for your help!
 
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