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linuxboy

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Please Pray......

...always .

but not necessarily for how you'd like this to turn out. Prosecution can result in injustice and peace found somehow may not be lasting.


By the way, if anyone has advice about what to do/say in this kind of a situation, I would greatly appreciate it. Right now I feel very helpless.


Hi Sarah .

At first, I did not know what to think of this thread or the post. Rape is such a horrendous crime with issues of power, identity, personhood mixed in with sexuality that it is very hard for me to console or comfort one who has undergone the experience. It takes much time, much effort, much reliving and learning to deal. It is never fully over for the victim and these wounds run very very deep. However, there is healing.

As a person who also feels helpless in this case, here is some suggested advice:

1) Remain calm. There is already one woman who is going out of her mind with grief and with pain. Another one will surely add to the confusion. For your own sanity and wellbeing, use the reason you have to remain strong.

2) If you can, get her to visit rape victims organization. She has lost social status or may think she did. With something like this, the victim does not know how people perceive her. She will be scared, and not only scared for the immediate biological outcomes like unwanted pregnancy but for future intimate relationships with men, for future inhibitions in her sexual life, and most frighteningly, for her perception by other people. There is alot of blame that can occur here. It seems she was aware there was a chance of this happening and didn't leave. She will call herself stupid for not taking precautions, for not seeing this way in advance, for not listening to her bf, for not being able to push the boss away, etc. This is one of the hardest things to help with. Yet it is necessary to continue going on with life. To help with this, get her to talk to others or be as supportive and assuring as possible. Don't just sit there and cry as some sort of empathic moment, the results of this may feel good but the wounds run deeper. She must realize that nothing has changed, that people support here, and that this is not her fault.

3) Remember that this will take time. During the acute period of rape coping, there is a violent reaction, blaming, all sorts of stuff the victim undergoes. This is the period when your support, just being there, makes the difference. At the latter stage, when post-traumatic stress disorder is prevalent, an organization of life will occur. This experience will cause serious rethinking of priorities, or plans, ideas, etc. Here too, you can help just by helping with everyday tasks and getting her to open up and having someone to talk to. Talk is very thereapeutic.


You are far from helpless, please don't feel this way . Granted, you're not a trained counselor or anything but recent experiences have reminded me that the best help comes from being human and from caring enough as opposed to fancy certifications or credentials.

If you care too much and can't control your own emotions, maybe you should attend a rape crisis center meeting or join an organization to help you pick up some ideas on what to do/not to do and how to deal with this yourself.

If you want to help, you need to help, and this requires some knowledge. I just provided you with a good overview of what should work. If you need some more help, please PM me.

With this in mind, I do not pray for a speedy recovery. Those of you who think this way do not really feel what this means. This will take a long time to overcome and every day may be a struggle. I do not pray for solace immediately because it may then take longer to recover. I pray for the support of good people and for an understanding from this experience what rape can do and what darkness can lurk in human hearts.

Do good.

Cheers !
 

Electric Amish

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<< Well praying is out, but she will be in my thoughts and I hope that sick bastage gets what he deserves, a federal pound me in the ass prison >>



He's toast. Even a rookie lawyer should be able to get him sent up.

amish
 

Tauren

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I am VERY sorry to hear that. I really hope that he becomes someones bitch in prison.
 

TheBlondOne

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As far as I know she has spoken with the police...there are no more updates yet. I will try to keep in touch with my friend and hear the news from him.

I only met Elizabeth last week while I was on spring break visiting NC. She was a sweet, very beautiful girl. But very quiet. Maybe the guy thought he could get away with it. Well, he's not going to.

BTW...it's one of the owners, not just her boss. And I guess another owner had already assaulted her by feeling her up, etc. I don't understand how people can be so stupid...their whole business will probably go down the tubes because of this.

Thanks for your concern, everyone. <hugs>

--Sarah

 

Jimbo

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<< Please pray that the man gets prosecuted and that the girl (Elizabeth) finds peace somehow. >>


Consider it done!
 

TheOmegaCode

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OMG, dude, that sucks.... Is she alright? Is her boss in jail? Don't let this bastard get off for this...
 
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<< BTW...it's one of the owners, not just her boss. And I guess another owner had already assaulted her by feeling her up, etc. I don't understand how people can be so stupid... >>



UNBELIEVABLE.... I hope your friend ruins these people.
 

FelixDeCat

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I pray for the girl but not the perp. Shes got a MAJOR sexual harrasment suit here, among other things.

 

Jfur

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Make sure that the event is documented (i.e., she has gone immediately to the hopital and also filed a police report). Although those things may seem trivial now they will be vital when she works to get that evil freak off the street.

Like others said, there is no need to say anything in particular -- just be there and listen and don't let her start rationalizing that it was her fault in any way or that he is going to get away with it. This is one of the most devastating things that can happen to a person, and I really hope that she will be strong. Don't forget, too, that her boyfriend needs a lot of help and support now. He is likely feeling many conflicting emotions, including great anger, and he may also feel guilty (although he shouldn't). So make sure he is not left out of the support loop.

BOTH should see a counselor very soon.

Good luck to all!
 

phantom309

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She is in my prayers.
I have to say that if I was the boyfriend it would be very, very hard for me not to shoot that man.
 

BigJohnKC

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I'm sorry to hear this happened, Sarah. I'll keep Elizabeth and her boyfriend in my prayers.
 

tamade

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This is sad and makes me very angry :| I really hope that she makes that bastard pays with all he has and send him to jail for at least 20 years. Ok I'll go pray and let off my anger now.
 

Optimus

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Good luck with this, Sarah - make sure she files a report with the police, presses charges, and document EVERYTHING. Get her checked at a hospital (physically) and then make sure she gets some good counselling. Remind her that:
1) This is NOT her fault
2) She needs some good counselling help - its not weakness to get it!
3) She MUST help police make sure this bastard can NEVER do this again.

My thoughts and prayers are with her.
 

CalamitousSoul

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Well, hope the guy that raped her knows: waht goes around, comes around.
In Jail, he'll be getting ass raped. And not just one time. So maybe he has that to think about. And how sorry he is *and will be.
 

JoeRicard

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good luck to your friend and hopfully she will recover from such a terrible situation that was NOT her fault.

-joe
 

RSI

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OMFG ... what a !@#$ing sick world we live in. I can't believe sh*t like this actually happens. I sincerely feel sorry for that girl, although I'm sure I can't come close to even being able to fathom how she feels. That boss is a pathetic excuse for a human being.. what disgusting scum. Ugh. I think I'm going to be sick. :|
 

MaxDepth

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You mentioned NC.
If this happened down here, please tell us the company (after the arrest/indictment, please), so that we may boycott it.

The only thing I could say is to be watchful of your friend to make sure he doesn't do anything stupid against the company/owner. From experience, I know how powerless and frustrated he feels right now. I needed someone to think calmly for me when I couldn't.


 

bigrash

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Feb 20, 2001
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damn I hope that bastard gets what he deserves. Hopefully he's thrown in jail. If not I wouldn't mind kicking his ass till he can't breath. This type of stuff makes me sick.

My prayers are with your friend
 
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