Please rate my Dell

[jimikim]

Originally posted by: S0Y73NTGR33N
you tard the only people who can fix your stuff now is Dell.. have fun paying $300 for 512 of proprietary RAM....


-green

So are you saying I can't add for example "Cruicial" or "Kingston" RAM? I can ONLY use Dell RAM that they sell on their website?

 

[S0Y73NTGR33N]

Yes I work on Dells everyday... you gotta buy Dell RAM... it's total crap...

 

[MDE]

Originally posted by: S0Y73NTGR33N
Dude you got a Dell!


you tard the only people who can fix your stuff now is Dell.. have fun paying $300 for 512 of proprietary RAM....


-green

You retarded douche, read the OP and you'll see that the system uses DDR2 memory. While grossly overpriced and offering no performance benefits it's by no means proprietary. While I'm not a fan of Dell, it's a good system for the price.

EDIT: So this memory won't work huh?
:roll:

 

[jimikim]

LOL nice pwnage MDE haha thanks

 

[BentValve]

Originally posted by: Gurck

Originally posted by: BentValve
Dells upper end PCs like the 8400 are very fast indeed...you did well and should be able to play Half-Life 2 with nearly everthing maxed.

Dell is not a popular name around here though because most of us are DIYers . I am a DIYer and own a Dell and can tell you first hand that Dells beat many DIY set-ups in terms
of sheer speed.

Have fun!

:laugh:

omg....

:laugh:

*gasps for air*

:laugh::laugh::laugh:

It's just funny on so many levels What do people seriously think, a sticker on the case reading "Dell" makes the same or inferior hardware faster? That a system which doesn't allow overclocking is faster than one which does when the ability is utilized? That a 6800nu or an Intel chip = the pinnacle of gaming performance? FYI An AMD-equivalent chip (ie. 3400+ vs. Intel's 3.4ghz model) yields 15% higher framerates in most games (assuming the video card isn't very outdated and that you're not playing games in 640x480) while costing a good deal less money. Their video encoding performance is roughly equal, though Intel used to hold the advantage in this vs AMD's old XP line of chips. Added bonus is that the A64s don't idle at temperatures approaching that of nuclear explosions :laugh: And Intel isn't expected to have a 64bit chip until a good six months or so after Longhorn is released... sorry man, but you wasted your money. It's nothing to be ashamed of, we've all had our blunders.

Lay off the dope, booze or whatever it is.


How in the hell did you come up with all that out of what I said?

Try not to read into peoples statements so far because its only going to get you in trouble.


Of course I am talking same hardware against the same hardware, Dell does not even use AMD so I have no idea why you even brought it up.


What I am saying is take a P4 800fsb / 875P combo from Dell and put it against a stock DIY set-up and it will run faster than alot of stock units.
A. Not every DIYer OCs
B. Read A again until it sinks in.

This is not about AMD , I love AMD and plan on building an Athlon 64 set-up when the 3500+ gets into the budget price range....but thats not what this thread is about now is it?


I personally have a Dell 8300 that I bought from their refurbed area....after selling the ram and video card out of it I had a P4 3ghz 800fsb system for $230 ...added my own 2ghz of ram and a 6800GT for $650 and there it is... $870 for a game rig that does the job to my satisfaction.
No I cannot OC the ram, no I cannot adjust anything on the mobo other than a few minor things.


Can an AMD 3500+ platform set-up beat it? Well of course again though..thats not the topic here.

 

[BlackEvo]

You came to a forum where people actually build PCs, so what do you expect us to say.

My honest opinion is if I can't open my computer and change something, then I've wasted my money.
Don't get me wrong, I bought a DELL, but after thinking about the consequences, it went right back to them. I know that at the rate technology is going, I'll end up upgrading something within 6-8 months. If not, I can sell my computer, and the thing is it will have a better resale value then any branded PC.

What's the point of having a peice of technology when you can't upgrade it?

BlackEvo

 

[BentValve]

So what, let the man show off his wares..

His PC is completely upgradable..dont post until you know the facts.

 

[Gurck]

Originally posted by: BentValve
Lay off the dope, booze or whatever it is.


How in the hell did you come up with all that out of what I said?

Try not to read into peoples statements so far because its only going to get you in trouble.


Of course I am talking same hardware against the same hardware, Dell does not even use AMD so I have no idea why you even brought it up.


What I am saying is take a P4 800fsb / 875P combo from Dell and put it against a stock DIY set-up and it will run faster than alot of stock units.
A. Not every DIYer OCs
B. Read A again until it sinks in.

This is not about AMD , I love AMD and plan on building an Athlon 64 set-up when the 3500+ gets into the budget price range....but thats not what this thread is about now is it?


I personally have a Dell 8300 that I bought from their refurbed area....after selling the ram and video card out of it I had a P4 3ghz 800fsb system for $230 ...added my own 2ghz of ram and a 6800GT for $650 and there it is... $870 for a game rig that does the job to my satisfaction.
No I cannot OC the ram, no I cannot adjust anything on the mobo other than a few minor things.


Can an AMD 3500+ platform set-up beat it? Well of course again though..thats not the topic here.

I didn't think I could laugh any harder, but here you have me doing it :laugh:

I'm in trouble? O NOES!!!11

Between two identical hardware setups, the Dell is faster?

And while you didn't mention AMD, you did mention speed - in which AMD beats the Intel equivalent, and for a lower price at that.

Come clean here, you want me to lay off any dope/booze I may be using because it's cutting into your supply, yes?

 

[dexvx]

I can already hear some of the lamer DIY'ers whining about this.

Bottom line is that you cannot build a system like this at the price he got. Some DIY'ers need to live with the fact that buying OEM with mass coupons/sale + some minor upgrades is better.

DIY'ers making up stuff like Dell is all Proprietary, totally Un-upgradeable, PSU deficient, uses cheap parts, or magically slower than a DIY system with the same specifications are living in 1995.

 

[raildogg]

considering how much u got, thats a pretty good price. actually thats a very good price

great system

 

[Gurck]

Originally posted by: dexvx
... magically slower than a DIY system with the same specifications ...

Since that's a dig at me and a blatant admission that you didn't really read the thread, I should point out that I made no such claim; rather, a Dell supporter made the claim that a Dell system with the same hardware is magically faster... Remember, it's read, then post

 

[Abhi]

Nice system for the price IMO ....

Enjoy HL2 ! :beer:

 

[crontab]

Nice, that's what I plan to get soon. Similar specs, but I'm waiting for a lower price.

I used to be an AMD junkie and a DIY'er, but after buying some dell's for my family, I'm a Dell junkie. The main reason why is that they are so quiet. Most of the machines I've built are loud as hell. Dell's on the other hand are whisper quiet. Plus their price nowadays are hard to beat. Now, I'm just waiting for a similar deal on the dimensions like they had for the laptops a few weeks ago.

 

[fishmonger12]

a steal, with that lcd screen. have fun with it

 

[Budmantom]

Originally posted by: S0Y73NTGR33N
Yes I work on Dells everyday... you gotta buy Dell RAM... it's total crap...

This is a classic example of talking out of your azz.

Nice Rig OP.




Tom

 

[Adul]

Originally posted by: S0Y73NTGR33N
Dude you got a Dell!


you tard the only people who can fix your stuff now is Dell.. have fun paying $300 for 512 of proprietary RAM....


-green

you are an idiot. It takes normal DDR2 ram which though is still prices rather high, but it is not proprietary

 

[MDE]

Originally posted by: Adul

Originally posted by: S0Y73NTGR33N
Dude you got a Dell!


you tard the only people who can fix your stuff now is Dell.. have fun paying $300 for 512 of proprietary RAM....


-green

you are an idiot. It takes normal DDR2 ram which though is still prices rather high, but it is not proprietary

Calm down, I dished out the 0wnage ten posts ago .

 

[Thor86]

Originally posted by: fishmonger12
a steal, with that lcd screen. have fun with it

Yeah great deal, and as a previous poster stated, get some 5.1 speakers for HL2/CSS!

 

[Kabob]

Originally posted by: Gurck
And Intel isn't expected to have a 64bit chip until a good six months or so after Longhorn is released... sorry man, but you wasted your money. It's nothing to be ashamed of, we've all had our blunders.

Intel already has a 64 bit chip...its just a rediculously expensive Xeon, but it is available. Check out the Nocona core'd Xeon's.

 

[dethman]

Originally posted by: arsbanned

Originally posted by: jimikim
I ordered this 11/17 and the website says it shipped today. I'm way too lazy to build my own comp and way to ignorant to know that AMD 64 kicks intel's ass in gaming. So basically I bought this on impulse because i found a ridiculous coupon that was expiring in like 5 hours and I added the 20in widescreen LCD. The 2005fpw's have been going for about $700 so maybe I'll sell it, but i've heard HL2 in 16:9 mode is insane. So was this purchase wise, and will it play HL2 and CS:S at greater than 20 fps (that's what i'm getting now on CS 1.6 with my AMD Athlon 1.1 Ghz + Radeon 9000)?

Dimension 8400
Pentium® 4 Processor 540 with HT Technology (3.20GHz, 800 FSB)
Microsoft® Windows® XP Professional
1GB Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM at 400MHz (2x512M)
Dell 20 inch UltraSharp? 2005FPW Widescreen
Dell AS500 14W Flat Panel Stereo Spkrs for 1704FP,1905FP,2001FP Flat Panels
256MB PCI Express? x16 Nvidia® GeForce 6800 GTO Graphics Card
160GB Serial ATA Hard Drive (7200RPM)
16X DVD-ROM Drive
Total $1,492.80

You should elect to get the RAID setup. Add another 160 SATA drive. Also, dump the speakers. They're crap.

screw raid. it's worthless in a desktop system.

 

[JackBurton]

I would like to quote all the retarded morons in this thread talking about proprietary parts, but it would just take too long and I just don't want to invest that kind of time.

All I WILL say is I give the OP a rating of 9/10 for his machine. Great machine at a great price. Like M4H said, I'd get new speakers but the ones you got should be ok. It will play HL2 very nicely.

 

[imported_Zeke]

Originally posted by: JackBurton
I would like to quote all the retarded morons in this thread talking about proprietary parts, but it would just take too long and I just don't want to invest that kind of time.

All I WILL say is I give the OP a rating of 9/10 for his machine. Great machine at a great price. Like M4H said, I'd get new speakers but the ones you got should be ok. will play HL2 very nicely.

That is all that matters screw everything else if you can run source your golden.

 

[Gurck]

Originally posted by: kabob983

Originally posted by: Gurck
And Intel isn't expected to have a 64bit chip until a good six months or so after Longhorn is released... sorry man, but you wasted your money. It's nothing to be ashamed of, we've all had our blunders.

Intel already has a 64 bit chip...its just a rediculously expensive Xeon, but it is available. Check out the Nocona core'd Xeon's.

Hrm, maybe I read what I read out of context, and it's that they're not expected to have a common, $200-$300 64bit desktop chip out for a while then... either way, the OP's chip isn't and Longhorn's-a-comin'.

 

[arsbanned]

Retarded flamers aside, don't buy into the garbage that the 8400 can't be upgraded or that the memory is proprietary or that you can't add PCIe and PCI cards (the tool free case is great, btw). Ask them how many of them have PCI-e AMD64 setups.

 

[LyNX31]

nice setup man, i come across those dell deals all the time and they are very tempting

i was wondering what athlon 64 system(939 platform) can compare to the speed of this intel. can anyone shed some light on this? or link me to helpful link?