Please stop breaking UI guidelines

JimmiG

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Feb 24, 2005
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So I just installed Firefox 4 and overall I like it.

However, there's one minor annoyance. For the past 18 years, since I got my first Amiga, I've been closing windows by clicking in the top-left corner of the windows. That's how you did it in AmigaOS, and in Windows 3.1. You can still do it in Windows 7, if you double-click the icon. I just never made a habit out of using the close button in the top-right corner, which only came around in 1995.

Now, with Firefox 4, that 18-year old habit. needs to go away literally overnight. Even though Microsoft specifies that a left click in the top-left corner should bring up the Window menu, and a doubleclick should close the window, FF doesn't work that way.

Another problem is that when a window has moved completely off-screen (which happens sometimes), you can no longer press Alt, select Move and use the arrow keys to bring it back into view.

I hate change.
 

shiner

Lifer
Jul 18, 2000
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This place doesn't have porn. They think its immoral. You know, that really grinds my gears. Where in the bible does it say that a man can't fire off some knuckle children in the privacy of his own neighbor's living room while his neighbor's at work because I don't have a DVD player? Well, I don't know where it says it because the Bible was way too long to read!
 

Alone

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Nov 19, 2006
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Now, with Firefox 4, that 18-year old habit. needs to go away literally overnight. Even though Microsoft specifies that a left click in the top-left corner should bring up the Window menu, and a doubleclick should close the window, FF doesn't work that way.

Works that way in FF4 beta.
 

Lonyo

Lifer
Aug 10, 2002
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So I just installed Firefox 4 and overall I like it.

However, there's one minor annoyance. For the past 18 years, since I got my first Amiga, I've been closing windows by clicking in the top-left corner of the windows. That's how you did it in AmigaOS, and in Windows 3.1. You can still do it in Windows 7, if you double-click the icon. I just never made a habit out of using the close button in the top-right corner, which only came around in 1995.

Now, with Firefox 4, that 18-year old habit. needs to go away literally overnight. Even though Microsoft specifies that a left click in the top-left corner should bring up the Window menu, and a doubleclick should close the window, FF doesn't work that way.

Another problem is that when a window has moved completely off-screen (which happens sometimes), you can no longer press Alt, select Move and use the arrow keys to bring it back into view.

I hate change.

In Windows 7 you can press Win+Arrow to move it back on screen
 

cronos

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Nov 7, 2001
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I have not installed Firefox for almost two years now since I went exclusively with Chrome. I may try this version just for the heck of it.

In other news, I just reinstalled my Windows a couple of days ago and ended up installing and trying out IE9. It's actually looking pretty good.
 

ShawnD1

Lifer
May 24, 2003
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This place doesn't have porn. They think its immoral. You know, that really grinds my gears. Where in the bible does it say that a man can't fire off some knuckle children in the privacy of his own neighbor's living room while his neighbor's at work because I don't have a DVD player? Well, I don't know where it says it because the Bible was way too long to read!

I think that might count as one of the commandments.
Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that [is] thy neighbour's.
Covet his DVD player?
 

Ichinisan

Lifer
Oct 9, 2002
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So I just installed Firefox 4 and overall I like it.

However, there's one minor annoyance. For the past 18 years, since I got my first Amiga, I've been closing windows by clicking in the top-left corner of the windows. That's how you did it in AmigaOS, and in Windows 3.1. You can still do it in Windows 7, if you double-click the icon. I just never made a habit out of using the close button in the top-right corner, which only came around in 1995.

Now, with Firefox 4, that 18-year old habit. needs to go away literally overnight. Even though Microsoft specifies that a left click in the top-left corner should bring up the Window menu, and a doubleclick should close the window, FF doesn't work that way.

Another problem is that when a window has moved completely off-screen (which happens sometimes), you can no longer press Alt, select Move and use the arrow keys to bring it back into view.

I hate change.
I already gave this feedback and more a few months back when I first tried the FF4 beta.

When I'm just using the mouse, I usually double-click the control box in the left corner to close a window. This ensures that I don't have to zero-in on the correct button in a tiny cluster of three. When I have one hand on the keyboard, it's even easier: Right-click anywhere on the title bar, task bar, or tab and hit "C" to close.

It's annoying that Google Chrome tabs don't let you do this...but it still works for the title bar and taskbar buttons.
 
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Eli

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Oct 9, 1999
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I wasn't aware of this feature. I mean, that you could click on the icon.

If I want to bring up that menu, I hit alt-spacebar.
 

PieIsAwesome

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Feb 11, 2007
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So I just installed Firefox 4 and overall I like it.

However, there's one minor annoyance. For the past 18 years, since I got my first Amiga, I've been closing windows by clicking in the top-left corner of the windows. That's how you did it in AmigaOS, and in Windows 3.1. You can still do it in Windows 7, if you double-click the icon. I just never made a habit out of using the close button in the top-right corner, which only came around in 1995.

Now, with Firefox 4, that 18-year old habit. needs to go away literally overnight. Even though Microsoft specifies that a left click in the top-left corner should bring up the Window menu, and a doubleclick should close the window, FF doesn't work that way.

Another problem is that when a window has moved completely off-screen (which happens sometimes), you can no longer press Alt, select Move and use the arrow keys to bring it back into view.

I hate change.

It does for me.
 

rudeguy

Lifer
Dec 27, 2001
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I wasn't aware of this feature. I mean, that you could click on the icon.

If I want to bring up that menu, I hit alt-spacebar.

how the heck did you find that?

Better yet...is there a list of all the cool Windows shortcuts that actually work in Windows 7?

I really miss my Windows key u u enter.
 

Glitchny

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Sep 4, 2002
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how the heck did you find that?

Better yet...is there a list of all the cool Windows shortcuts that actually work in Windows 7?

I really miss my Windows key u u enter.

AFAIK Alt has always selected the menu items and shortcuts.
 
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