Pledge of Allegiance Unconstitutional

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: LH
Doubtful, the Supreme Court has already have precedent or two on the books, to where they could overturn it.

Name one.

And a constitutional ammendment takes even more years.

The only reason "under God" was added was because of the Cold War and to philosophically combat Communism.

As I said, I believe it doesn't matter - just saying "under God" does not make our citizens more "anything".

 

[Red Dawn]

Our Politicians are such cowards.

 

[LH]

Rats going for the Cheese called Votes.

Mainstream America DOESNT want "under God" removed. PERIOD. Supporters of having "under God" removed from the PoA would be lucky to get 4-5 states to oppose a consitutional amendment. Its extremely unlikely todays ruling will stand, one way or another.

 

[LH]

Name one.

Theres been a couple named by several news agencies.

The ruling wont stand, wait and see. Yes an amendment could take a long time, but it doesnt have to, they could push the issue and get it done fairly quickly(well fairly quickly for the government).

People bitching about "under God" being unconstitutional, hell the way the government is being run is technically unconstitutional.

 

[SuperTool]

Originally posted by: LH

Rats going for the Cheese called Votes.

Mainstream America DOESNT want "under God" removed. PERIOD. Supporters of having "under God" removed from the PoA would be lucky to get 4-5 states to oppose a consitutional amendment. Its extremely unlikely todays ruling will stand, one way or another.

That's why we have the Constitution and the courts. Mainstream America wanted Al Gore. A redneck does not a mainstream America make

 

[FettsBabe]

Anyone who wants to remove it can kiss my beautiful, sexy and perfectly rounded white ass!!

 

[Harvey]

My letter to my two Senators (both Democrats):

Dear Senator,

I am proud to be an American, and overall, I am very proud of my country's accomplishments. However, the words, "under God" have no relevance to the true meaning of being an American, whether or not one happens to believe in the exitance one deity or another. The U.S must forever remain a land of equal opportunity for all, regardless of social distinctions such as race and religion.

The words, "under God" were added in 1954, during the infamous McCarthy era. Ever since, when reciting the Pledge, I have remained silent for those two words.

I am sixty years old, and I am a life-long Democrat. However, if you vote to support any legislative action to keep the words, "under God" in the Pledge of allegience, I will NOT vote for you, again.

Sincerely,

Harvey Rubens

 

[UltraQuiet]

Originally posted by: FettsBabe
Anyone who wants to remove it can kiss my beautiful, sexy and perfectly rounded white ass!!

Pics?

 

[LH]

But as I said, you liberals better hope it gets overturned by election time, if not, theres going to be a right majority on all the courts, even the 9th, before the end of Bush's first term.

 

[Harvey]

Originally posted by: FettsBabe
Anyone who wants to remove it can kiss my beautiful, sexy and perfectly rounded white ass!!

Pics, HELL! We want samples by the piece.

 

[Red Dawn]

Anyone who wants to remove it can kiss my beautiful, sexy and perfectly rounded white ass!!

Remove it!! Remove it!!

 

[UltraQuiet]

That's why we have the Constitution and the courts. Mainstream America wanted Al Gore. A redneck does not a mainstream America make

Neither does a whiny ass left coast liberal.

 

[Red Dawn]

But as I said, you liberals better hope it gets overturned by election time, if not, theres going to be a right majority on all the courts, even the 9th, before the end of Bush's first term.

Fsck the Liberals and Fsck the Right Wingers. We need a Centrist Government (Like G.W.) If the Republicans would kick the Religious Ridiculous..err the Right to the Curb they'd find themselves even more popular than they have ever been.

 

[Spagina]

I've always seen "Under God" as a phrase that doesn't really support any religion. While the intentions may have been slated towards Christianity, many people are ignorant of the fact that many of the worlds major religions follow the same "God", just a different messenger. God is about as neutral as you can get when it cames to religion. It really doesn't endorse any religion AT ALL.

I don't know, I disagree with this, I'm definitely not a bible thumper, but this particular ruling reeks of liberal PC garbage. If your seriously and deeply offended by the words "Under God" then there are much deeper issues going on in your psyche.

 

[LH]

That's why we have the Constitution and the courts. Mainstream America wanted Al Gore. A redneck does not a mainstream America make

Funny you mention the constitution, which can be amended, and last I checked it took 37 states to ratify an amendment. Those you call rednecks make up about 43 states, and last I checked 75% of democrats are religious TOO. If Congress pushed for an amendment, it would in all likely hood be ratified by those you call not mainstream america. Democrats and Republicans alike don't like it, so yes mainstream america does not want "under god" removed. You folks make up a very small portion of america.

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Anyone who wants to remove it can kiss my beautiful, sexy and perfectly rounded white ass!!

Remove it!! Remove it!!

Previously, I didn't care.

But I'd still like some PICs.

 

[Red Dawn]

You folks make up a very small portion of america.

Wait till Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson start speaking out against it. People will change their minds.

 

[apoppin]

If Congress pushed for an amendment, it would in all likely hood be ratified by those you call not mainstream america. Democrats and Republicans alike don't like it, so yes mainstream america does not want "under god" removed. You folks make up a very small portion of america.

As I stated before, it doesn't bother me one way or another.

But I think you are wrong in overestimating your speaking for "mainstream" America. Mainstream America is diverse and certainly not "Christian".

 

[glenn1]

if you think this is a waste of money and time, then GOOD. don't complain and try to get it reversed or else you'll end up wasting even more time and money. cut your losses.

I resemble that remark

Actually, i don't care one way or the other whether "under God" remains or not, but lawsuits of this type regarding absolutely trivial nonsense are starting to wear thin for many people. How does this ruling (whether you agree with it or disagree with it) going to make a single iota of difference in your day to day life? If it does make a difference for you, then you need a life and should get out more often if the biggest concern you have is whether the word "God" gets mentioned in a pledge most of us never recite once we leave elementary school.

Let Congress get all worked up about it though, and spin their wheels to get an Amendment passed. The more time they spend gazing at their navels on this pointless blather is less time they have to screw something else up.

 

[Red Dawn]

3 words : Liberal fvcking bedwetters

Probably the only three words you can type without getting any on your keyboard.

 

[UltraQuiet]

Originally posted by: apoppin

If Congress pushed for an amendment, it would in all likely hood be ratified by those you call not mainstream america. Democrats and Republicans alike don't like it, so yes mainstream america does not want "under god" removed. You folks make up a very small portion of america.

As I stated before, it doesn't bother me one way or another.

But I think you are wrong in overestimating your speaking for "mainstream" America. Mainstream America is diverse and certainly not "Christian".

Year 2000 data shows ~ 225,000,000 "christians" in this country. I think I know what you were driving at but that is the number.

 

[Red Dawn]

Year 2000 data shows ~ 225,000,000 "christians" in this country. I think I know what you were driving at but that is the number.

But only a small amount of those are Fund A Mental Case.

 

[troglodytis]

speaking of amendments and bets in the same thread.


i've got $50 that says there will be NO amendment added to the US constitution that address this subject in the year.


this is a one time bet and goes only to the first person to accept it.

 

[UltraQuiet]

But only a small amount of those are Fund A Mental Case

Thank God.

 

[glenn1]

i've got $50 that says there will be NO amendment added to the US constitution that address this subject in the year.

By "in the year" do you mean by the end of 2002, or within 365 days of today?