Pledge of Allegiance Unconstitutional

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Why would Chrisitians think they can tell God what to do anyhow?

God will do what he wants to do regardless of whether you proclaim that he rules the US nation ("one nation under God").


 

xirtam

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Well, we're certainly not a nation above God, across God, after God, along God, around God, in between Gods, through God, aboard God, and most *definitely* not about God, so I think you can just let it ride. The phrase was designed to show our relationship to God with Him as the object, not as the subject. We're not "telling God" to do anything... unless, of course, He wants to put us above Himself, which is not within the nature of any God.

The question here is not what God has to say about America, but what we have to say about Him.

And the response by many here is "nothing," because they don't believe there is a God. The problem then becomes how to take God out of it without really screwing up the pledge.

And it's not that difficult, and frankly, I don't care. Most of the time when people say the words "under God," they're not really even thinking about God. I as a Christian don't want people thinking about God in a half-brainwashed state, so I'm fine if y'all want to take it out. Doesn't bother me any. I don't think it's that big of an issue. It's not like God's going to cease to exist just because people separate loyalty to country from loyalty to God. Which I advocate.
 

xirtam

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well, if you just take "God" out, you're left with a "One nation under indivisible..."

Now who the heck is Indivisible?



Actually, I think it's a dumb pledge anyway. I don't like the fact that it's "Indivisible" because I think that since Hawaii and Alaska are included in the 50 states, there's an obvious physical way that we're divided. Shoot, the Great Divide goes right down the middle of the country. Can we take that word out too? Please? I don't believe our nation's indivisible... WE'RE DIVIDED OVER OUR STUPID PLEDGE, for crying out loud.
 

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Am I the only one who (kinda) wants to see this thread die? It's basically bandering the four main viewpoints back and forth, with no big conclusions being drawn by either side...
 

xirtam

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When you can conclude that the goal of ATOT is to form a conclusion, you just PM me.
 

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Lifer
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Originally posted by: xirtam
When you can conclude that the goal of ATOT is to form a conclusion, you just PM me.

lol Way to be.

I argue to find a conclusion, or at least to have some mutual conjecture. There doesn't generally seem to be a lot of that here. Granted, we have a miracle thread every now and then, but still... this is generally why I stay out of these kinds of discussions (besides having no intimate knowledge of said subject, etc, ).
 

xirtam

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I as well don't come in here for the purpose of arguing to reach a conclusion.

What... do you think that by a couple of posts on an online board, people are going to wake up, smell the pizza, and say, "There is a God!"

I don't think so.

This was a venting thread where two sides are going to be displayed. And neither of the two sides will persuade the other, but some middle-of-the-road people might see some arguments they haven't heard/thought of before.

Besides... like I said... conversation doesn't always need to be goal-oriented. Kind of like the difference between a wife and a hooker. Sorry. Had to throw that in there. If you don't understand... explaining it would just ruin the whole thing.
 

Moonbeam

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The conclusion is obvious. We needed God to fight the Godless Communists, but now that we are fighting the minions of Allah, we need to be a secular state.
 

xirtam

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Moonbeam, you are so right!

YAY POLITICS!

er...

Have you ever shouted that in a crowded baseball stadium? It's fun.
 

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Lifer
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Originally posted by: xirtam
Moonbeam, you are so right!

YAY POLITICS!

er...

Have you ever shouted that in a crowded baseball stadium? It's fun.

lol I'll try it sometime...
 

xirtam

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I recommend not doing it during the anthem, though. Or during the pledge. Oh...wait...no pledge. What the heck was this forum about then? We don't even say the pledge at the ballgames!

Heh.
 

Moonbeam

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I don't wait till I get to the stadium to shout, "Moonbeam, you are right!". I do it anywhere.
 
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