That, and let's not forget the phone card fiasco! Quite a while back they were offering "free phone cards" with some minutes on them when you bought certian items. You could choose to turn it down or accept it, but they went ahead and sent them to almost everyone regaurdless. They passed on the credit card numbers of these people to the company who made the phone cards, and the customers were automatically billed periodically for them. If that won't turn you away from them, you might as well o ahead and post your credit card number right here and get the reaming out of the way. (Yeah, I don't like TD )