PNY gtx 970 $319 shipped NO rebate

[funboy6942]

ENJOY......

http://www.superbiiz.com/detail.php...SQhotvEoARxePeN/f6pK3hRATMshzY/2DS4jsItAbxYPQ

 

[SunnyD]

Newegg has several GTX970's on sale for $319 + rebates on top of them, a lot with custom coolers.

Not the greatest of deals.

 

[funboy6942]

so not having to wait for a rebate, pay shipping, and tax (which this alone for me at 9.75% is around $31 id save) which is about a grand total of around $61 youd have to shell out vs just paying a flat out one time $319 shipped for my deal if i just bout at superbiz and bought another one? Why would i pay $61 more at new egg just to have a different cooler pay tax, shipping, and wait months for a lousy $20 when id just pay $319?

how does mine not really stack up, please enlighten us noobs?

 

[SunnyD]

how does mine not really stack up, please enlighten us noobs?

Location: Dyer, TN

Live in a better state. :sneaky:

 

[RaistlinZ]

Wasn't $320.00 close to the original MSRP for these things anyway?

 

[Samus]

I have this card, and there is one important thing to consider about it.

It's 9.5" long. No other 900-series cards with blowers are 9.5" most at 10.5"

And most non-blower cards simply suck at cooling. I've been though a number of EVGA cards that used a twin-fan open air design and case & motherboard temps were around 10c higher. The card itself didn't stay noticeably cooler OR quieter than a blower, either.

Although this PNY blower is "cheap" and doesn't have the exotic build of the NVidia reference blower (like the vapor chamber my old 770 had) the fan itself is well balanced and I've had it for over 6 months with no issues whatsoever.

So yes, this is a deal, because this is the best 970 out there IMHO. Good luck finding any other model with a blower (EVGA discontinued there model) and the open air coolers are just a bad idea. In what world is it a good idea to exhaust 150+w of heat into a case, no matter how well ventilated it is?

 

[Ricochet]

PNY is not a no-namer either. It's the brand that Dell carries.

 

[jacion]

Doesn't really seem like a deal to me, It's only $5 cheaper (1.5%) cheaper then the same card on the egg.

If you do not have an exhaust fan in your PC then this type of cooler may be the way to go. Otherwise I would go for a non-reference cooler. I picked up a MSI 970 last week for only $12 more than said PNY and I'm happy, the fans do not even spin at all until you start playing a game that taxes the cooling. To me, that's worth more then the extra 12 bucks.

 

[RussianSensation]

And most non-blower cards simply suck at cooling. So yes, this is a deal, because this is the best 970 out there IMHO.

You must be joking. A blower in a modern case with sufficient airflow in a 1-2 GPU combination system is almost always inferior in noise levels, temperatures and overclocking headroom compared to great open air-cooled designs.

PNY GTX970 is literally one of the worst GTX970 cards ever made:

1) It's loud out of the box, with no ability to turn off the fan at < 65C like some cards such as Asus Strix or MSI Gaming
2) Its temperatures are near thermal throttle levels (> 80C)
3) Combine #1 and #2 and you have a recipe for one of the worst overclocking 970 cards with loud noise levels and high temperatures you can imagine.

4) In SLI, these things are nearly as loud as a reference R9 290s - yuck!

Essentially, this card takes all the best things about a 970 and throws most of them away. Asus Strix, MSI Gaming, Gigabyte Windforce 3X are all miles better. Besides, no modern PC gaming case has trouble dissipating and exhausting 150-175W of GPU power, negating the need for a POS GTX670/760 style blower that's not even adequate for stock operation! :thumbsdown:

5) PCB and the rest of the components are also budget.

http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/foru...52-nvidia-gtx-970-sli-performance-review.html

This card is pure junk among the GTX970 options.

 

[Samus]

You must be joking. A blower in a modern case with sufficient airflow in a 1-2 GPU combination system is almost always inferior in noise levels, temperatures and overclocking headroom compared to great open air-cooled designs.

PNY GTX970 is literally one of the worst GTX970 cards ever made:

1) It's loud out of the box, with no ability to turn off the fan at < 65C like some cards such as Asus Strix or MSI Gaming
2) Its temperatures are near thermal throttle levels (> 80C)
3) Combine #1 and #2 and you have a recipe for one of the worst overclocking 970 cards with loud noise levels and high temperatures you can imagine.

4) In SLI, these things are nearly as loud as a reference R9 290s - yuck!

Essentially, this card takes all the best things about a 970 and throws most of them away. Asus Strix, MSI Gaming, Gigabyte Windforce 3X are all miles better. Besides, no modern PC gaming case has trouble dissipating and exhausting 150-175W of GPU power, negating the need for a POS GTX670/760 style blower that's not even adequate for stock operation! :thumbsdown:

5) PCB and the rest of the components are also budget.

http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/foru...52-nvidia-gtx-970-sli-performance-review.html

This card is pure junk among the GTX970 options.

You can say whatever you want, but I have two of them in SLI in my X99 and one in my mITX H97, and they have quiet, balanced coolers, quality Samsung memory, Japanese Chemicon ceramic caps and the reference VRM design. I have my SLI cards volted to 1.28v running 1360MHz GPU and 8GHz memory, and it hangs at the boost as long as the TDP will allow.

PNY also has among the best firmware (which is why they are carried by all major OEM's, unlike eVGA's which had soft recalls for firmware issues...ie, why I RETURNED MINE AND GOT A PNY.) It's also worth noting the eVGA blower card was so terrible they discontinued it.

And your charts are completely irrelevent because they take no variation in case into account. Sure, for the SPECIFIC cooling system they are being benchmarked, yes, they will fall behind compared to a card with twice the cooling surface area.

But what about smaller cases? What about mITX? You know, what about the TARGET MARKET for a blower card.

Try again troll.

 

[funboy6942]

Dayam!!!

 

[funboy6942]

Im happy with my little card I got, its not a PNY but a Zotac, and its a oc beast, got it steady right now at 1415ghz at all stock volts , wish I saw these though before I bought it, would of gotten these ones instead because they are small, and they are blowers.

 

[Samus]

Im happy with my little card I got, its not a PNY but a Zotac, and its a oc beast, got it steady right now at 1415ghz at all stock volts , wish I saw these though before I bought it, would of gotten these ones instead because they are small, and they are blowers.

I actually traded a Zotac to someone here on the forums for a few SSD's and some memory. Ended up buying the PNY to replace it. The Zotac made my case temps too high (ITX) and the PNY with the blower completely solved that. The Zotac was a really nice card it just needed a case bigger than the FT03-mini I have. I like that its a single fan and not some ridiculous dual or triple fan like the MSI/Asus/Gigabyte cards.

NVidia's reference cooler (a blower) is still the benchmark cooler for videocards. The reason nobody uses it isn't because its poor quality, loud or lousy at cooling, but because it's expensive ($50 in bulk quantity of 1000) and everyone else thinks they can do better for less, especially EVGA (who I've lost so much respect for over the last 12 months since the 750/750Ti launch for obvious reasons - they botched those cards and they botched the 970/980 firmware.)

OEM cards always have a conservative but stable firmware. The PNY was the first (and only) launch card to have fan idle, where the fan doesn't even turn on until the GPU is 50c. All the other OEM's that tried to implement that, specifically EVGA, had firmware updates that essentially resulted in soft recalls.

 

[imaheadcase]

Newegg has several GTX970's on sale for $319 + rebates on top of them, a lot with custom coolers.

Not the greatest of deals.

Except most people don't like rebates because they are a shame.

 

[SunnyD]

NVidia's reference cooler (a blower) is still the benchmark cooler for videocards. The reason nobody uses it isn't because its poor quality, loud or lousy at cooling, but because it's expensive ($50 in bulk quantity of 1000) and everyone else thinks they can do better for less, especially EVGA (who I've lost so much respect for over the last 12 months since the 750/750Ti launch for obvious reasons - they botched those cards and they botched the 970/980 firmware.)

Funny you say that because PNY is nvidia's reference OEM partner ever since PNY bought out Elsa.

 

[RussianSensation]

Except most people don't like rebates because they are a shame.

I've gotten almost all of my rebates in the last 15 years. The few times where I didn't get the rebate was my fault since I submitted it on the last day which meant it probably got post-marked at the post office 1-2 days past the last day allowed. Otherwise, I've never had issues with getting my rebates/rebate cards.

But what about smaller cases? What about mITX? You know, what about the TARGET MARKET for a blower card.

Try again troll.

Micro-ATX cases can easily cope with a single MSI Gaming 970/Gigabyte G1 970 Gaming. What micro-ATX case would you use for GTX970 SLI exactly and an overclocked i5/i7 that's necessary to not bottleneck those cards?

MSI Gaming 970 is $320 and has received many Editor's Choice Awards. It's far quieter in all situations than that PNY card in the OP, has superior components too. It also has the ability to turn off the fans at < 65C which means for light gaming and 2D desktop load, the MSI Gaming remains 100% silent, something that can't be said for your PNY 970 card. Your 1380mhz overclock is nothing stellar as MSI Gaming 970 can hit 1.45-1.5Ghz, and while doing it it'll run quieter and cooler than your card at stock.

As far as Micro-ATX cases go, if you know what you are buying, you can fit an open-air cooled 250-275W TDP GTX780Ti/TitanX inside a Silverstone Raven RVZ02.

Oh and before you try to tell us that open-air cooled cards don't work well in SLI/CF, here is a solid system with Tri-SLI 980s.

The ONLY good blower 970 is the BestBuy Titan Cooler edition that retails for $379.99.

 

[Samus]

Trolling...

Trolling...

More trolling...

The ONLY good blower 970 is the BestBuy Titan Cooler edition that retails for $379.99.

Wait, that was trolling too...

Let's look at some facts here instead of this attitude problem you have:

PNY is a NVidia OEM partner and is the largest distributor of NVIDIA cards world-wide by a huge margin simply because of the OEM channel they supply. Long story short: they don't make "junk" like your highly discountable and bias Canadian reference site and "PCPARTSPICKER.COM" claims.

Every single NVidia Quadro card is manufactured by PNY. This includes the Tesla racks that run some of the worlds most powerful supercomputers.

Reviews speak for themselves: PNY cards are unanimously rated extremely high. This "blower" edition of the 970 is no exception.

PNY isn't a "cheap brand" like you imply. They are inexpensive because of the economies of scale: they sell more cards than all other NVidia partners, this allows them to sell at a more competitive price.

PNY's blower is excellent. As I said, it isn't a vapor chamber, but the firmware is well tuned, it supports idle states, the cooler rarely runs at full speed and it is case compatible from ITX to ATX. You completely missed every comment I made about ITX which shows you either don't know what ITX is (you appear to be repeatedly confusing it for mATX?) or you are so caught up in your bias dribblish you aren't even reading peoples posts! YOU CAN'T PUT A OPEN AIR CARD IN A TRADITIONAL ITX CHASSIS. This is simple thermodynamics. I have an Silverstone FT03-Mini and like most ITX chassis, it has one fan.

Lastly, PLEASE stop thread crapping. Your opinion carries no weight because you have ZERO experience with this card. As I, and others have said, WE actually OWN at least one of these cards and they are excellent. IF you happen to have a scenario where an open-air card is acceptable, that is fine, spend more money on something you might not need/might not work for you, but the fact is THIS CARD IS A GOOD DEAL FOR A GOOD CARD WITHOUT A REBATE.

 

[funboy6942]

This deal is still going on with no rebate to truck with, and if you need a small version of the 970 to go in a HTPC case....mine is chugging right along with no probs at all set at 1420 all day long.

 

[Samus]

Down to $296.99 at amazon! Once again, no rebate!

 

[funboy6942]

I posted it was down to that, only probs is amazon has tax which for some, like me at 9.75% kills that deal for it would be about $30 in tax making me pay then $330 for it, making this one $15 less