Originally posted by: spidey07
Obama called out on illegals!
"It's a LIE!"
Originally posted by: spidey07
We will FORCE you to have health insurance. We will FORCE business to provide health insurance.
Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
What about illegals?
Guarantee he ain't gonna touch it.
And who fucked up the left/right scrolling?
Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
Originally posted by: spidey07
Obama called out on illegals!
"It's a LIE!"
Give that man a medal.
H.R. 3200: Sec 246 ? NO FEDERAL PAYMENT FOR UNDOCUMENTED ALIENS Nothing in this subtitle shall allow Federal payments for affordability credits on behalf of individuals who are not lawfully present in the United States.
Originally posted by: spidey07
A sneak peek at Obama's speech reveals the following specific points, which sound really great, but the end game is the same - single payer, government controlled, healthcare and all the problems that go along with that.
1) Insurance can no longer use pre-existing conditions, by law
2) Insurance can no longer have lifetime maximums and out of pocket maximums will be capped low, by law
3) Insurance can no longer drop your coverage, by law
4) Insurance must cover preventative and routine procedures, at little or no cost, by law
5) Public option - it's there for you if you switch jobs, want it, or just need it
6) Those making under 3-4 times poverty level and under will get public option for "free"
It sounds so perfect, doesn't it? Points 1-4 regarding insurance describe what is actually available today, it describes some of the best insurance plans available. Likewise these plans are pretty darn expensive. Now, BY LAW, insurance plans must be super-duper cadillac plans. What do you think that is going to do to everybody's premiums?
That's right, make them so damned expensive that you have no other "choice" but to go to the public option. Oh, and how are we going to pay for all this?
Originally posted by: spidey07
Obama called out on illegals!
"It's a LIE!"
H.R. 3200: Sec 246 ? NO FEDERAL PAYMENT FOR UNDOCUMENTED ALIENS Nothing in this subtitle shall allow Federal payments for affordability credits on behalf of individuals who are not lawfully present in the United States.
Originally posted by: shadow9d9
Nope.
1-4 isn't available today. My wife was denied every insurance carrier by the state of Florida.
Go F yourself.
Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: shadow9d9
Nope.
1-4 isn't available today. My wife was denied every insurance carrier by the state of Florida.
Go F yourself.
So move.
Originally posted by: shadow9d9
Originally posted by: spidey07
A sneak peek at Obama's speech reveals the following specific points, which sound really great, but the end game is the same - single payer, government controlled, healthcare and all the problems that go along with that.
1) Insurance can no longer use pre-existing conditions, by law
2) Insurance can no longer have lifetime maximums and out of pocket maximums will be capped low, by law
3) Insurance can no longer drop your coverage, by law
4) Insurance must cover preventative and routine procedures, at little or no cost, by law
5) Public option - it's there for you if you switch jobs, want it, or just need it
6) Those making under 3-4 times poverty level and under will get public option for "free"
It sounds so perfect, doesn't it? Points 1-4 regarding insurance describe what is actually available today, it describes some of the best insurance plans available. Likewise these plans are pretty darn expensive. Now, BY LAW, insurance plans must be super-duper cadillac plans. What do you think that is going to do to everybody's premiums?
That's right, make them so damned expensive that you have no other "choice" but to go to the public option. Oh, and how are we going to pay for all this?
Nope.
1-4 isn't available today. My wife was denied every insurance carrier by the state of Florida.
Go F yourself.
Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE
how is there a "choice" if you are FORCED to get insurance?