Originally posted by: Nebor
Originally posted by: BigJ
So if a uniformed officer could stop someone that is currently assaulting you, you'd want him to go ahead and get a signed warrant to stop the assailant?
I'm 6'3" 200lbs, great shape, 2nd degree black belt in Tae Kwon Do and I carry either a Sig 228 or a Kimber Ultra Compact every day.
People should take charge of their own defense. I never expect the police to help me out of a jam. I've helped police officers several times, ironically, to detain a resisting individual.
Originally posted by: pontifex
Originally posted by: 91TTZ
Originally posted by: Proletariat
The lawyer says unless I have tons of witness or a videotape I can't really press charges.
He says the system works for the cops.
At this point I haven't done anything except filed a brutality report with Internal Affairs.
I'm very disappointed though - injuries include large scrapes/gashes on both knees, bruise on head, stiches on hand, and handcuff cuts.
I have no criminal record.
Please give me the officer's name, badge number, department, and supervisor's name. Also give me an address that a bottle of wine and a gift basket can be sent.
Thanks.
same here. this guy deserves what he got just based on his posts here.
Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: Lifted
Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: CarlKillerMiller
The responses here have really shown me ATOT in a bad light.
You people fvcking disgust me, may the worst happen to all of you.
To the op, I'm really sorry, that shouldn't happen to anyone. The system does, however, work on the police's side. Did the store perhaps have a security camera which captured everything?
The responses here disgust you, and then you go ahead and make a post like this?
Sorry if not everyone here takes the word of someone who committed the following:
Trespassed
Disturbed the Peace
Resisted Arrest
and not to mention, Disobeyed a Direct Order from a LEO (more than once mind you), which is a ticketable offense.
You expect the cops to play nice when you try to resist being arrested?
Maybe I missed something, but how did he resist arrest if he was never arrested and the police officer never said 'You're under arrest' but simply said 'stop'.
After refusing a direct order from a police officer, he was subdued and they were placing the cuffs on him. Had the police officers actually gone through and formally arrested him instead of simply restraining him, he could've been charged with resisting arrest.
Originally posted by: dahunan
Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: Lifted
Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: CarlKillerMiller
The responses here have really shown me ATOT in a bad light.
You people fvcking disgust me, may the worst happen to all of you.
To the op, I'm really sorry, that shouldn't happen to anyone. The system does, however, work on the police's side. Did the store perhaps have a security camera which captured everything?
The responses here disgust you, and then you go ahead and make a post like this?
Sorry if not everyone here takes the word of someone who committed the following:
Trespassed
Disturbed the Peace
Resisted Arrest
and not to mention, Disobeyed a Direct Order from a LEO (more than once mind you), which is a ticketable offense.
You expect the cops to play nice when you try to resist being arrested?
Maybe I missed something, but how did he resist arrest if he was never arrested and the police officer never said 'You're under arrest' but simply said 'stop'.
After refusing a direct order from a police officer, he was subdued and they were placing the cuffs on him. Had the police officers actually gone through and formally arrested him instead of simply restraining him, he could've been charged with resisting arrest.
Cops are allowed to be dirty and rough people up who never laid a hand on them and never threatened them? You are lost or have LEO's in your bloodline.. You have a sickness if you think they should be allowed to do whatever they want or if you try to make excuses like that...
Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: Proletariat
Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: Proletariat
Originally posted by: BigJ
Hmm.
What I'm wondering is why the Officer didn't arrest him for trespassing, and issue him a ticket for disobeying a police officer.
On top of that, like others have said, any half decent lawyer would be able to talk to the store management, get the video tapes, and have witnesses testify to the police brutality.
And if you're wearing Khakis, how are you getting gashes on your knees?
Shens-ational.
Um because I hit the ground with a 135 pound police officer on my back and a 210 pound fatass officer on my back?
DUDE. that hurts.
So now it was two officers?
Meh it was always two, the second only joined in afterwards so I don't want to implicate her in police brutality because it might ruin her career or something.
I wasn't saying anything political. The clerk at a Shoppers Food Warehouse was repeatedly rude to me. I called him a jerk. He refused to sell anything to me (apparently its legal here). I call BS. He calls police. Policewoman gets their side of the story (I was on the other side of the room) then comes over and just tells me rudely to get out. I politely argue with her telling her my side of my story. She gets hysterical and just keeps saying get out. After a minute I listen to her and leave, then she says stop, obviously fvcking with me. Knocks me to the ground from behind. I didn't know what happened I unconciously tried to get up. She pulls my hair throws me to the ground again a couple times on the concrete then handcuffs me. Takes me home in car with my car still in the lot. I say this is illegal. She says what you gonna say? A couple of girls beat you up? I say first of all I'm not gonna hit a woman second of all not a police officer.
So I guess there was one small woman, and one 210lb fatass woman?
Originally posted by: Proletariat
Originally posted by: KLin
Originally posted by: Proletariat
Originally posted by: mobobuff
Originally posted by: astrocase
Uh.....
I still think some details are missing.
Most assuredly.
No I'm being serious thats all.
I have never disrespected a police officer in my life and I have NO criminal record.
Do you people not believe police brutality exists?
I for one don't believe you. You're a troll, and I think you're trolling with a fake story right now.
Honestly I don't give a fvck what you think.
Why don't you suck me nerd?
Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: Lifted
Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: CarlKillerMiller
The responses here have really shown me ATOT in a bad light.
You people fvcking disgust me, may the worst happen to all of you.
To the op, I'm really sorry, that shouldn't happen to anyone. The system does, however, work on the police's side. Did the store perhaps have a security camera which captured everything?
The responses here disgust you, and then you go ahead and make a post like this?
Sorry if not everyone here takes the word of someone who committed the following:
Trespassed
Disturbed the Peace
Resisted Arrest
and not to mention, Disobeyed a Direct Order from a LEO (more than once mind you), which is a ticketable offense.
You expect the cops to play nice when you try to resist being arrested?
Maybe I missed something, but how did he resist arrest if he was never arrested and the police officer never said 'You're under arrest' but simply said 'stop'.
After refusing a direct order from a police officer, he was subdued and they were placing the cuffs on him. Had the police officers actually gone through and formally arrested him instead of simply restraining him, he could've been charged with resisting arrest.
Originally posted by: ValkyrieofHouston
Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: Lifted
Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: CarlKillerMiller
The responses here have really shown me ATOT in a bad light.
You people fvcking disgust me, may the worst happen to all of you.
To the op, I'm really sorry, that shouldn't happen to anyone. The system does, however, work on the police's side. Did the store perhaps have a security camera which captured everything?
The responses here disgust you, and then you go ahead and make a post like this?
Sorry if not everyone here takes the word of someone who committed the following:
Trespassed
Disturbed the Peace
Resisted Arrest
and not to mention, Disobeyed a Direct Order from a LEO (more than once mind you), which is a ticketable offense.
You expect the cops to play nice when you try to resist being arrested?
Maybe I missed something, but how did he resist arrest if he was never arrested and the police officer never said 'You're under arrest' but simply said 'stop'.
After refusing a direct order from a police officer, he was subdued and they were placing the cuffs on him. Had the police officers actually gone through and formally arrested him instead of simply restraining him, he could've been charged with resisting arrest.
I don't think Proletariat was actually detained or arrested by the police, at least that is not what I read in his posts. Sounds to me he was roughed up unnecessarily by these LE's by what I am reading.
You know I do recall once seeing on TV, it was a news report... of a 14 year old girl handcuffed to a metal bench that was bolted to a floor in a holding sell. Yes, she was pissed and beligerent to the cop who was sitting across from her at his desk shouting all sorts of obscenities as the tape showed, however the cop got pissed that she wouldn't shut up physically grabbed her threw her in such a manner to the floor that the arm cuffed to the bench got twisted in such a manner as to break... she was screaming "oh god, my arm, my arm!" and the cop kept saying "I don't give a damn about your arm, I'll break it off if I have to, you shut your mouth and show some respect"... later they showed her parents filing a lawsuit, and her arm in a sling.
It stuff like that, that makes me believe this post by Proletariat. I really don't care if the girl was shouting obscenities to the cop, she was handcuffed, restrained, probably very scared and freaked out... and people do all sorts of things when they are scared. It is human to act out when put in these type situations, and the cops are suppose to be trained to deal with these type human reactions. They are not to become abusive in that way to someone who is already restrained, or to someone who has been asked to leave, who is already complying then gets pummled to the ground as Proletariat has stated in his posts.
Originally posted by: fisher
Originally posted by: ValkyrieofHouston
Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: Lifted
Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: CarlKillerMiller
The responses here have really shown me ATOT in a bad light.
You people fvcking disgust me, may the worst happen to all of you.
To the op, I'm really sorry, that shouldn't happen to anyone. The system does, however, work on the police's side. Did the store perhaps have a security camera which captured everything?
The responses here disgust you, and then you go ahead and make a post like this?
Sorry if not everyone here takes the word of someone who committed the following:
Trespassed
Disturbed the Peace
Resisted Arrest
and not to mention, Disobeyed a Direct Order from a LEO (more than once mind you), which is a ticketable offense.
You expect the cops to play nice when you try to resist being arrested?
Maybe I missed something, but how did he resist arrest if he was never arrested and the police officer never said 'You're under arrest' but simply said 'stop'.
After refusing a direct order from a police officer, he was subdued and they were placing the cuffs on him. Had the police officers actually gone through and formally arrested him instead of simply restraining him, he could've been charged with resisting arrest.
I don't think Proletariat was actually detained or arrested by the police, at least that is not what I read in his posts. Sounds to me he was roughed up unnecessarily by these LE's by what I am reading.
You know I do recall once seeing on TV, it was a news report... of a 14 year old girl handcuffed to a metal bench that was bolted to a floor in a holding sell. Yes, she was pissed and beligerent to the cop who was sitting across from her at his desk shouting all sorts of obscenities as the tape showed, however the cop got pissed that she wouldn't shut up physically grabbed her threw her in such a manner to the floor that the arm cuffed to the bench got twisted in such a manner as to break... she was screaming "oh god, my arm, my arm!" and the cop kept saying "I don't give a damn about your arm, I'll break it off if I have to, you shut your mouth and show some respect"... later they showed her parents filing a lawsuit, and her arm in a sling.
It stuff like that, that makes me believe this post by Proletariat. I really don't care if the girl was shouting obscenities to the cop, she was handcuffed, restrained, probably very scared and freaked out... and people do all sorts of things when they are scared. It is human to act out when put in these type situations, and the cops are suppose to be trained to deal with these type human reactions. They are not to become abusive in that way to someone who is already restrained, or to someone who has been asked to leave, who is already complying then gets pummled to the ground as Proletariat has stated in his posts.
i'm pretty sure that was an episode of law and order. good try tho.
Proletariat.... You should know best of all 80% of ATOT'ers are complete asshats. I've read your posts and respect your credibility. I would NOT just let it go. Ignore the generic "you had it coming crowd". I have no respect for people like that. I would walk right into the station with your cuts and demand to speak to someone. They could get the officer who tackled you and you could confront her in the station.Originally posted by: Proletariat
Originally posted by: fisher
trolling ftw?
trolling look u tards...
I don't have the fvckin pics.
My friend who is a photographer has the pics... he is working on getting them developed right now. I'd love to show them to you.
Honestly I harbor no animosity towards police officers and I would never post a thread like this unless I was honestly in some sort of physical pain.
Originally posted by: Udel
Proletariat.... You should know best of all 80% of ATOT'ers are complete asshats. I've read your posts and respect your credibility. I would NOT just let it go. Ignore the generic "you had it coming crowd". I have no respect for people like that. I would walk right into the station with your cuts and demand to speak to someone. They could get the officer who tackled you and you could confront her in the station.Originally posted by: Proletariat
Originally posted by: fisher
trolling ftw?
trolling look u tards...
I don't have the fvckin pics.
My friend who is a photographer has the pics... he is working on getting them developed right now. I'd love to show them to you.
Honestly I harbor no animosity towards police officers and I would never post a thread like this unless I was honestly in some sort of physical pain.
Originally posted by: Proletariat
The lawyer says unless I have tons of witness or a videotape I can't really press charges.
He says the system works for the cops.
At this point I haven't done anything except filed a brutality report with Internal Affairs.
I'm very disappointed though - injuries include large scrapes/gashes on both knees, bruise on head, stiches on hand, and handcuff cuts.
I have no criminal record.
Originally posted by: Proletariat
Originally posted by: mugs
Shouldn't have been spreading that commie b.s.
Seriously, hope it works out for you man.
I honestly look like a normal guy. I was in my work clothes - Dockers Khakis and a dress shirt.
I wasn't saying anything political. The clerk at a Shoppers Food Warehouse was repeatedly rude to me. I called him a jerk. He refused to sell anything to me (apparently its legal here). I call BS. He calls police. Policewoman gets their side of the story (I was on the other side of the room) then comes over and just tells me rudely to get out. I politely argue with her telling her my side of my story. She gets hysterical and just keeps saying get out. After a minute I listen to her and leave, then she says stop, obviously fvcking with me. Knocks me to the ground from behind. I didn't know what happened I unconciously tried to get up. She pulls my hair throws me to the ground again a couple times on the concrete then handcuffs me. Takes me home in car with my car still in the lot. I say this is illegal. She says what you gonna say? A couple of girls beat you up? I say first of all I'm not gonna hit a woman second of all not a police officer.
Nope. Just smart enough to realize that if that were me I be equally pissed. Screw the man.Originally posted by: fisher
Originally posted by: Udel
Proletariat.... You should know best of all 80% of ATOT'ers are complete asshats. I've read your posts and respect your credibility. I would NOT just let it go. Ignore the generic "you had it coming crowd". I have no respect for people like that. I would walk right into the station with your cuts and demand to speak to someone. They could get the officer who tackled you and you could confront her in the station.Originally posted by: Proletariat
Originally posted by: fisher
trolling ftw?
trolling look u tards...
I don't have the fvckin pics.
My friend who is a photographer has the pics... he is working on getting them developed right now. I'd love to show them to you.
Honestly I harbor no animosity towards police officers and I would never post a thread like this unless I was honestly in some sort of physical pain.
2nd account?
Originally posted by: J Heartless Slick
Originally posted by: Proletariat
The lawyer says unless I have tons of witness or a videotape I can't really press charges.
He says the system works for the cops.
At this point I haven't done anything except filed a brutality report with Internal Affairs.
I'm very disappointed though - injuries include large scrapes/gashes on both knees, bruise on head, stiches on hand, and handcuff cuts.
I have no criminal record.
Rodney King got beat up by three or four cops. The beating was caught on film. There are recordings of the cops bragging about beating him. The cops got away with it.
Good Luck
Originally posted by: Mill
This thread made my day! Hopefully next time they taze and OC you as well. That's what you get hippie!
Oh, and I don't believe you anyway.