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Proletariat

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Originally posted by: Crazyfool
I don't know whether to say shens or karma.


Hah my friend, karma will be more cruel to you than I can imagine. I have no qualms about that. I won't laugh when I see you suffering the afterlife though. It makes me sad to see people in pain.
 

mobobuff

Lifer
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Originally posted by: CadetLee
Originally posted by: Proletariat
Originally posted by: CadetLee
Originally posted by: Powermoloch
Originally posted by: sm8000
What prompted the beating?


seriously

There was no 'beating'...from his injury description, he hit the ground and was cuffed tightly.

So stitches and large gashes are normal for that kind of thing?

I'm very disappointed though - injuries include large scrapes/gashes on both knees, bruise on head, stiches on hand, and handcuff cuts.

So after they took you down, they flipped you over and beat your knees and forehead?

If they jumped on his back, he likely fell to his knees on the pavement and scraped them up real nice. If he fell, chances are good he hit his head on something, or they hit his head on something.

He might've been a jerk or starting to cause trouble, but I don't see the justice in beating someone up who was on their way out of the store.

Did you say something smart to them after they told you to leave that might have prompted them to jump you? But nothing you could've said should've brought that about. Police should be passive until a law has been broken or danger presents itself.
 

tommywishbone

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Speaking as one who knows; you're going to be charged with assault & battery & resisting arrest... you might as well actually do some real battering and resisting.

Good luck with your case.
 

Proletariat

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Originally posted by: FoBoT
maybe she thinks you are hot and that was just her way of trying to get into your pants

LOL thought sorta the same thing, but then I got up and the gash on my knee opened and I cursed at the entire world again.
 

Proletariat

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Originally posted by: tommywishbone
Speaking as one who knows; you're going to be charged with assault & battery & resisting arrest... you might as well actually do some real battering and resisting.

Good luck with your case.

I have not been charged with anything.

What I think happened was the manager - who apparently has a history of abuses - told her something and she went off.

Which is why in my complaint I asked for her being fired OR an apology.

I would completely accept an apology and an explanation.
 

Dissipate

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Originally posted by: Proletariat
Originally posted by: Ornery
Well he was a foreign guy. But he had been repeatedly rude to me, so I finally snapped.

We've GOT to hear the EXACT conversation, verbatim. You know? I said this, then he said that. The ENTIRE conversation. It's very apparent you already know it won't sound good on your part, right?

Ok from the beginning.

Same clerk a few weeks ago denied both my friend and I alcohol. It was his bday party. We were both above 21 and completely sober.

He says are you drunk? We are like... what??? Then he says I'm not gonna sell the alchohol to you.

This happened a couple of different times, I ignored them all and left without saying much at all.

The last time he said hey.. you're the drunk guy!!!

That just pissed me off. I'm never drunk on the job. Thats BS. I was there at 12 PM getting FOOD. So I called him a jerk. Its pretty obvious this guy had it out for me.

Report him to his manager. If what you say is true then the store wouldn't want an employee like that.
 

FoBoT

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Originally posted by: Proletariat
Originally posted by: FoBoT
maybe she thinks you are hot and that was just her way of trying to get into your pants

LOL thought sorta the same thing, but then I got up and the gash on my knee opened and I cursed at the entire world again.

some chicks are like that, they like it really rough

did you get her number?
 

Proletariat

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Originally posted by: Dissipate
Originally posted by: Proletariat
Originally posted by: Ornery
Well he was a foreign guy. But he had been repeatedly rude to me, so I finally snapped.

We've GOT to hear the EXACT conversation, verbatim. You know? I said this, then he said that. The ENTIRE conversation. It's very apparent you already know it won't sound good on your part, right?

Ok from the beginning.

Same clerk a few weeks ago denied both my friend and I alcohol. It was his bday party. We were both above 21 and completely sober.

He says are you drunk? We are like... what??? Then he says I'm not gonna sell the alchohol to you.

This happened a couple of different times, I ignored them all and left without saying much at all.

The last time he said hey.. you're the drunk guy!!!

That just pissed me off. I'm never drunk on the job. Thats BS. I was there at 12 PM getting FOOD. So I called him a jerk. Its pretty obvious this guy had it out for me.

Report him to his manager. If what you say is true then the store wouldn't want an employee like that.

Its Shoppers of course they would.

Anyways I can't go in there for a year.
 

jlee

Lifer
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If they jumped on his back, he likely fell to his knees on the pavement and scraped them up real nice. If he fell, chances are good he hit his head on something, or they hit his head on something.

Exactly..cut on hand could be from attempting to get back up, then being forced down again?

Note to OP: If an officer performs a takedown on you...don't try to get back up. It's not healthy...
 

Proletariat

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Originally posted by: CadetLee
If they jumped on his back, he likely fell to his knees on the pavement and scraped them up real nice. If he fell, chances are good he hit his head on something, or they hit his head on something.

Exactly..cut on hand could be from attempting to get back up, then being forced down again?

Note to OP: If an officer performs a takedown on you...don't try to get back up. It's not healthy...

Well sir, I didn't know what happened. I mean it was sorta reflex.

I honestly don't think I deserve these wounds for doing absolutely nothing except for sticking up for myself. I in no way disrespected the police officers at all.
 

BigJ

Lifer
Nov 18, 2001
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Originally posted by: Proletariat
Originally posted by: CadetLee
If they jumped on his back, he likely fell to his knees on the pavement and scraped them up real nice. If he fell, chances are good he hit his head on something, or they hit his head on something.

Exactly..cut on hand could be from attempting to get back up, then being forced down again?

Note to OP: If an officer performs a takedown on you...don't try to get back up. It's not healthy...

Well sir, I didn't know what happened. I mean it was sorta reflex.

I honestly don't think I deserve these wounds for doing absolutely nothing except for sticking up for myself. I in no way disrespected the police officers at all.

So wait, you're complaining about getting roughed up after you were basically resisting arrest?
 

jlee

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Originally posted by: Proletariat
Originally posted by: CadetLee
If they jumped on his back, he likely fell to his knees on the pavement and scraped them up real nice. If he fell, chances are good he hit his head on something, or they hit his head on something.

Exactly..cut on hand could be from attempting to get back up, then being forced down again?

Note to OP: If an officer performs a takedown on you...don't try to get back up. It's not healthy...

Well sir, I didn't know what happened. I mean it was sorta reflex.

I honestly don't think I deserve these wounds for doing absolutely nothing except for sticking up for myself. I in no way disrespected the police officers at all.

I'm not saying you did or did not deserve anything -- but I did want to clarify that you didn't exactly suffer a 'beating' in the true sense of the word.

I'm not going to side with anyone here unless I can see video.
 

Proletariat

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Originally posted by: CadetLee
Originally posted by: Proletariat
Originally posted by: CadetLee
If they jumped on his back, he likely fell to his knees on the pavement and scraped them up real nice. If he fell, chances are good he hit his head on something, or they hit his head on something.

Exactly..cut on hand could be from attempting to get back up, then being forced down again?

Note to OP: If an officer performs a takedown on you...don't try to get back up. It's not healthy...

Well sir, I didn't know what happened. I mean it was sorta reflex.

I honestly don't think I deserve these wounds for doing absolutely nothing except for sticking up for myself. I in no way disrespected the police officers at all.

I'm not saying you did or did not deserve anything -- but I did want to clarify that you didn't exactly suffer a 'beating' in the true sense of the word.

I'm not going to side with anyone here unless I can see video.

Well yes, in the the sense of a rodney king type thing - no.

But I still did recieve quite a few wounds for not being a criminal.
 

Conky

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Originally posted by: Proletariat
Originally posted by: Crazyfool
I don't know whether to say shens or karma.


Hah my friend, karma will be more cruel to you than I can imagine. I have no qualms about that. I won't laugh when I see you suffering the afterlife though. It makes me sad to see people in pain.
Karma FTW.

Maybe you should do like Earl and make a list. :laugh:


 

Proletariat

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Originally posted by: FoBoT
Originally posted by: Proletariat
Originally posted by: FoBoT
maybe she thinks you are hot and that was just her way of trying to get into your pants

LOL thought sorta the same thing, but then I got up and the gash on my knee opened and I cursed at the entire world again.

some chicks are like that, they like it really rough

did you get her number?

Well you know what... I do have her number LOL.

Dunno whether I should call it though
 

Proletariat

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Dec 9, 2004
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Originally posted by: Crazyfool
Originally posted by: Proletariat
Originally posted by: Crazyfool
I don't know whether to say shens or karma.


Hah my friend, karma will be more cruel to you than I can imagine. I have no qualms about that. I won't laugh when I see you suffering the afterlife though. It makes me sad to see people in pain.
Karma FTW.

Maybe you should do like Earl and make a list. :laugh:

Earl? Dunno what your talking about?

Look up karma on wikipedia. I'm almost 100% sure it will affect u before me.
 

OdiN

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Originally posted by: Proletariat
Originally posted by: FoBoT
Originally posted by: Proletariat
argue with her telling her my side of my story.

gee , i wonder why you had a problem

argueing with a police officer, so shocking that you had trouble


next time when the owner/worker of a PRIVATE business tells you to get lost, then you need to leave

next time a police officer tells you to get lost, then you need to leave


so shocking that you got arrested, gee whizzer , what is the world coming to :roll:


I didn't get arrested or charged with anything.

I was completely polite when arguing with the officer. I was not aware of the law at all.

Ignorance of the law is not an excuse.
 

Nebor

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It seems to me that if a police officer jumps on your back, initiates physical contact, shoots first, etc., that they should lose the protection of the badge. Any situation which they instigate should allow you to respond as if anyone else had attacked you.

It would be immensely satisfying to turn around and beat the hell out of her, maybe bounce her head off the tile floor a few times until her eyes rolled back in her head.

Of course you'd be crucified by the other police officers, and the media. Not only would you be a violent crazy person resisting arrest, you'd be a woman beater.
 

BigJ

Lifer
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Originally posted by: OdiN
Originally posted by: Proletariat
Originally posted by: FoBoT
Originally posted by: Proletariat
argue with her telling her my side of my story.

gee , i wonder why you had a problem

argueing with a police officer, so shocking that you had trouble


next time when the owner/worker of a PRIVATE business tells you to get lost, then you need to leave

next time a police officer tells you to get lost, then you need to leave


so shocking that you got arrested, gee whizzer , what is the world coming to :roll:


I didn't get arrested or charged with anything.

I was completely polite when arguing with the officer. I was not aware of the law at all.

Ignorance of the law is not an excuse.

So far, Proletariat has:

Trespassed
Disobeyed a Direct Order from a Police Officer
Resisted Arrest

and wonders why he was roughed up?

Hell, they could probably slap on a Disorderly Conduct charge on there.
 

erikistired

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Originally posted by: Proletariat
Originally posted by: mugs
Shouldn't have been spreading that commie b.s.

Seriously, hope it works out for you man.

I honestly look like a normal guy. I was in my work clothes - Dockers Khakis and a dress shirt.

I wasn't saying anything political. The clerk at a Shoppers Food Warehouse was repeatedly rude to me. I called him a jerk. He refused to sell anything to me (apparently its legal here). I call BS. He calls police. Policewoman gets their side of the story (I was on the other side of the room) then comes over and just tells me rudely to get out. I politely argue with her telling her my side of my story. She gets hysterical and just keeps saying get out. After a minute I listen to her and leave, then she says stop, obviously fvcking with me. Knocks me to the ground from behind. I didn't know what happened I unconciously tried to get up. She pulls my hair throws me to the ground again a couple times on the concrete then handcuffs me. Takes me home in car with my car still in the lot. I say this is illegal. She says what you gonna say? A couple of girls beat you up? I say first of all I'm not gonna hit a woman second of all not a police officer.

yeah right.
 

Proletariat

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Originally posted by: Nebor
It seems to me that if a police officer jumps on your back, initiates physical contact, shoots first, etc., that they should lose the protection of the badge. Any situation which they instigate should allow you to respond as if anyone else had attacked you.

It would be immensely satisfying to turn around and beat the hell out of her, maybe bounce her head off the tile floor a few times until her eyes rolled back in her head.

Of course you'd be crucified by the other police officers, and the media. Not only would you be a violent crazy person resisting arrest, you'd be a woman beater.

Exactly. She has complete power in this situation.
 

BigJ

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Proletariat
Originally posted by: Nebor
It seems to me that if a police officer jumps on your back, initiates physical contact, shoots first, etc., that they should lose the protection of the badge. Any situation which they instigate should allow you to respond as if anyone else had attacked you.

It would be immensely satisfying to turn around and beat the hell out of her, maybe bounce her head off the tile floor a few times until her eyes rolled back in her head.

Of course you'd be crucified by the other police officers, and the media. Not only would you be a violent crazy person resisting arrest, you'd be a woman beater.

Exactly. She has complete power in this situation.

You disobey a direct order from a police officer (in this case "Stop") and wonder why they subdued you?
 

Ulfwald

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You should have just left and kept your mouth shut. As usual, you have no idea when to STFU.
 
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