Police didn't know about cigar theft till after Browns death, and clerk didn't call

[Victorian Gray]

The store theft incident had JUST happened. Michael Brown was walking home from the store he had just robbed, in the middle of the street, with the large box of stolen cigars in-hand. A customer called the cops. The radio call went out and a different officer was dispatched.

Now, even though this officer was not the one responding to the call about the theft, he would have heard the same radio dispatch that the responding officer heard. A "10-x" code would have indicated "robbery" and there would have also been a description of the suspect.

The officer probably realized who the big guy was almost immediately; simply because Michael Brown started behaving badly when told to get out of the middle of the road.

Ferguson chief: Officer didn't know about robbery



http://www.ksdk.com/story/news/loca...ef-officer-didnt-know-about-robbery/14124259/


Try again?

 

[MongGrel]

Of course he didn't.

 

[JEDIYoda]

also if you watch the video very closely you can see that the cigars were paid for, you can clearly see money changing hands. Then if you watch you can see them trying to purchase more cigars but they don`t have the enough money...so they threw the cigars on the counter and left.....

 

[JEDIYoda]

The store theft incident had JUST happened.
Michael Brown was walking home from the store he had just robbed, in the middle of the street, with the large box of stolen cigars in-hand.

A customer called the cops. The radio call went out and a different officer was dispatched.

 

[QueBert]

so, can a robbery be for $3.75 worth of shit? Because that's how much the package of Swisher Sweets costs. YES I know he stole them, that's not what I'm debating. But I've never heard the word robbery used to something of that price. I think it's being used in place of stealing because it sounds worse.

I'll conveniently leave out what the last posted said about how, he paid for them and all... *whistle* We'll just focus on the word they're using to make something that didn't even happen seem that much worse. Since this is proof in the video, then Brown didn't know it had possibly been reported to the police, seeing how he didn't even steal them at all. Well unless MO is known for reporting black men buying Swisher Sweets to the police.

 

[ivwshane]

also if you watch the video very closely you can see that the cigars were paid for, you can clearly see money changing hands. Then if you watch you can see them trying to purchase more cigars but they don`t have the enough money...so they threw the cigars on the counter and left.....

Well he did take the box, dropped a bunch and then he put them back and it appears he paid for at least some of the ones he took.

Regardless this was the most brutal robbery I've ever seen! The way brown savagely beat the clerk and bolted out the door with $1000 worth of cigars was insane! Clearly he was an experienced theif! I mean, did you see how the clerk just ran for his life? He tried to run past brown because he was so scared of him!

Don't worry though, I'm sure the ferguson police will release the 911 call and I'm sure they've already talked to the store clerk and witness. Their handling of this case has been near perfection! I'm sure once the incident report comes out we will see just how detailed and thorough they are, the detail will reveal all!

 

[JEDIYoda]

Well he did take the box, dropped a bunch and then he put them back and it appears he paid for at least some of the ones he took.
Regardless this was the most brutal robbery I've ever seen!
The way brown savagely beat the clerk and bolted out the door with $1000 worth of cigars was insane! Clearly he was an experienced theif! I mean, did you see how the clerk just ran for his life? He tried to run past brown because he was so scared of him
Don't worry though, I'm sure the ferguson police will release the 911 call and I'm sure they've already talked to the store clerk and witness. Their handling of this case has been near perfection! I'm sure once the incident report comes out we will see just how detailed and thorough they are, the detail will reveal all!

 

[ivwshane]

You never watched the video did you......what the police just released was not detailed or thorough! In fact the ACLU believes the Police are hiding the real truth, as do others!

Sorry, I thought my posts level of sarcasm was obvious. Sadly, apparently it wasnt

 

[JEDIYoda]

Sorry, I thought my posts level of sarcasm was obvious. Sadly, apparently it wasnt

I am sorry.....I will take care of things.

 

[Riparian]

so, can a robbery be for $3.75 worth of shit? Because that's how much the package of Swisher Sweets costs. YES I know he stole them, that's not what I'm debating. But I've never heard the word robbery used to something of that price. I think it's being used in place of stealing because it sounds worse.

I'll conveniently leave out what the last posted said about how, he paid for them and all... *whistle* We'll just focus on the word they're using to make something that didn't even happen seem that much worse. Since this is proof in the video, then Brown didn't know it had possibly been reported to the police, seeing how he didn't even steal them at all. Well unless MO is known for reporting black men buying Swisher Sweets to the police.

Robbery just means larceny with a threat of force in most jurisdictions. The monetary amount doesn't matter and hopefully people on this board understand why the amount is not what's important but the use of force.

 

[Ichinisan]

so, can a robbery be for $3.75 worth of shit? Because that's how much the package of Swisher Sweets costs. YES I know he stole them, that's not what I'm debating. But I've never heard the word robbery used to something of that price. I think it's being used in place of stealing because it sounds worse.

I'll conveniently leave out what the last posted said about how, he paid for them and all... *whistle* We'll just focus on the word they're using to make something that didn't even happen seem that much worse. Since this is proof in the video, then Brown didn't know it had possibly been reported to the police, seeing how he didn't even steal them at all. Well unless MO is known for reporting black men buying Swisher Sweets to the police.

[edit] Looks like there was there some new news.

Anyway, I had heard it was a whole box of cigars (and that's how it looked in the video). The value was around $50.

 

[QueBert]

Where are you getting this? Was there some new news today?

It was a whole box of cigars. The value was over $50.

I work at a store that sells Swishers, there's no box that's over $50. Swishers are shit 2 for a buck cigars. Even a whole big box isn't close to $50. Are you telling me he stole over 100 cigars?


I they had reported that Brown has stolen a $3.75 pack of Swishers - not so news worthy
but they're reporting that there was a robbery involving a $50+ box of Swishers. - ZOMG!

I would love to see this mythical over $50 pack of Swishers, it must have been big as fuck, like the size of a shoe box.

 

[Ichinisan]

I work at a store that sells Swishers, there's no box that's over $50. Swishers are shit 2 for a buck cigars. Even a whole big box isn't close to $50. Are you telling me he stole over 100 cigars?

Sorry. Just read again that the value was $48.xx

I figured it's one of those boxes the retailer is supposed to open and sell the individually-packaged items from. Example: Candy bars come in big boxes that the retailer tears the top from before setting the box on the shelf to sell the individual bars.

 

[Ichinisan]

I just watched a video that supposedly shows him paying for them and I could not make out any such thing. I simply saw him reaching behind the counter in a way that didn't look right (appeared to be shoving the clerk or trying to grab something that wasn't meant to be reached from his side of the counter). I don't see any contradiction between that one and the angle that was released earlier.

Is there a better video? This seemed to be from a cell phone pointed at a security DVR monitor.

 

[QueBert]

Sorry. Just read again that the value was $48.xx

I figured it's one of those boxes the retailer is supposed to open and sell the individually-packaged items from. Example: Candy bars come in big boxes that the retailer tears the top from before setting the box on the shelf to sell the individual bars.

I watched the video, nope it wasn't that. Shaq couldn't carry the entire box you're talking about in 1 hand the way Brown did. The box the packs come in is big, when I get to work tomorrow I'll take a picture of said box with a ruler next to it. Unless brown has the largest hands ever, he stole a few 99 cent packs. At worst he stole a few 5 for 3 boxes ($3.75 each) But saying he stole $3-7 worth of cigars doesn't paint him out to be a villainous thug. I won't blame it on the media being racist since I can't know that for sure. But absolutely they really need to do better fact checking.

 

[ivwshane]

I just watched a video that supposedly shows him paying for them and I could not make out any such thing. I simply saw him reaching behind the counter in a way that didn't look right (appeared to be shoving the clerk or trying to grab something that wasn't meant to be reached from his side of the counter). I don't see any contradiction between that one and the angle that was released earlier.

Is there a better video? This seemed to be from a cell phone pointed at a security DVR monitor.

So you didn't notice how he handed a box to his friend, then reached in and grabbed more cigars, dropped them, and then his friend put the box he had back onto the counter? And while brown is picking up the cigars the clerk comes around the counter and tries to prevent brown from leaving?

I know when I'm steeling something and I already have the merchandise I tend to put the box of merchandise back and only take a few items of said merchandise instead.

Clearly this was a strong arm robbery, there just isn't any other possible scenarios!

/s

Is there any better video? Of course not, this is the only info that was released other than the officers name.

There just simply isn't enough info either way and with the way this situation has been handled (which to me is what makes this bad) I doubt the truth will ever come out.

 

[ivwshane]

I watched the video, nope it wasn't that. Shaq couldn't carry the entire box you're talking about in 1 hand the way Brown did. The box the packs come in is big, when I get to work tomorrow I'll take a picture of said box with a ruler next to it. Unless brown has the largest hands ever, he stole a few 99 cent packs. At worst he stole a few 5 for 3 boxes ($3.75 each) But saying he stole $3-7 worth of cigars doesn't paint him out to be a villainous thug. I won't blame it on the media being racist since I can't know that for sure. But absolutely they really need to do better fact checking.

Brown handed a box to his friend, who later put the box back on the counter where a clerk pulled them away, brown has about 3 or 4 packages in his hand, not a box.

 

[Raizinman]

OP hates police. Once you recognize this, everything makes sense. This thread is a joke.

When most people have the impression of cops sitting at the bottom of some hill with a radar gun, eating donuts, just waiting for a car driving a few miles per hour over the speed limit to hit you with a $250 ticket (quota enforced), they sort of see all cops as working the system.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Ferguson chief: Officer didn't know about robbery



http://www.ksdk.com/story/news/loca...ef-officer-didnt-know-about-robbery/14124259/


Try again?

There was a cop dispatched who didn't know why?

 

[Ichinisan]

There was a cop dispatched who didn't know why?

A cop could have been dispatched in response to the call from a patron of the store, but it would have been a different cop. If so, this cop should have heard the dispatch call go out even if it wasn't addressing him.

He was just out on patrol.

 

[Vapid Cabal]

So you didn't notice how he handed a box to his friend, then reached in and grabbed more cigars, dropped them, and then his friend put the box he had back onto the counter? And while brown is picking up the cigars the clerk comes around the counter and tries to prevent brown from leaving?



I know when I'm steeling something and I already have the merchandise I tend to put the box of merchandise back and only take a few items of said merchandise instead.



Clearly this was a strong arm robbery, there just isn't any other possible scenarios!



/s



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Production of steel not found in video either.

 

[CZroe]

Ferguson chief: Officer didn't know about robbery



http://www.ksdk.com/story/news/loca...ef-officer-didnt-know-about-robbery/14124259/


Try again?

That isn't what he said. I knew the moment he said it that people like you would take it to mean that the officer didn't realize it, even though he only said that he didn't know at the time of the stop based on his initial instruction. He said that the officer would not have said that if he knew, but he did not say that officer Wilson never realized that Brown was the robbery suspect. That realization would have to come at some point after the initial encounter. Based on the time, location, and response to his instructions (fighting), he might not have even needed to hear a description to consider the possibility that it was the robbery suspect.

In real life, you don't automatically know who everyone is or what they have done the moment you encounter them. That realization must came after, whether almost immediate or after seeing more clues. As far as you know, Brown's back was still facing the officer when he gave that instruction the "didn't know" statement was based on. Latching on to this poorly-worded statement and applying it to the entire encounter is just silly and stupid.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

A cop could have been dispatched in response to the call from a patron of the store, but it would have been a different cop. If so, this cop should have heard the dispatch call go out even if it wasn't addressing him.

He was just out on patrol.

<sarcasm follows>

Well the police didn't know because the clerk didn't call! It must be ESP in action!

Obviously the police knew. Obviously it doesn't have to be a clerk. Obviously it is possible to be aware of something without being directly asked to participate. Obviously the thread title is a fiction.

There are obviously people who are biased, but hey we knew that.

 

[CZroe]

<sarcasm follows>

Well the police didn't know because the clerk didn't call! It must be ESP in action!

Obviously the police knew. Obviously it doesn't have to be a clerk. Obviously it is possible to be aware of something without being directly asked to participate. Obviously the thread title is a fiction.

There are obviously people who are biased, but hey we knew that.

Very well said.

 

[Oldgamer]

Ferguson chief: Officer didn't know about robbery



http://www.ksdk.com/story/news/loca...ef-officer-didnt-know-about-robbery/14124259/


Try again?

I have given up on this thread, seriously you can't show them anything, even if it is card hold facts because they are in great denial. They are so blindly biased on this issue they just can't accept anything that truth points to. Anyway thanks for the link and pointing to what was already reported.:thumbsup: