Yeah but guns don’t kill people, people do...oh wait...uh...the best way to stop a bad guy with a gun is to have a good guy with a gun...hmm, hold on...it’s not murder if it’s self defense...yeah that’s it.
It's funny how bringing a gun escalates to easy death in many cases. It's almost like guns are really good at what they're designed for, violence.
I bring this up because it was not a coincidence. What normal person tries to find and then chase someone with a rifle, which is shown clearly in the Facebook stream I posted? A reasonable person with the rifle would think this isn't a normal person that they are dealing with, yet you guys think Kyle should just take it up the ass and just hope he doesn't get beat up and/or have the rifle used against him.
Even some of the liberals started to come around.
Column: Here’s why Kyle Rittenhouse, the teen shooting suspect in Kenosha killings, is likely to get off
Kyle Rittenhouse is going to walk. This is my conclusion as I emerge, blinking in the light, from the rabbit hole I’ve been down all week of self-defense law, jury-instruction language, charg…www.chicagotribune.com
See above. You love defending thug behavior.
What do you believed shows proof of intent to murder? Wearing gloves? Just going there armed? Firearm crossing state lines? Illegal possession of gun? Why can't cops use reasoning like this to establish threat again? The irony is fucking hilarious.
We should stop calling them a militia - they're armed mobs. Based on the linked oped below, militias are supposed to operate under the civil government - not as privately organized entitiesAnd you're defending this guy-
And all the members of the stupid militia who conspired to make a tense situation worse. They know he's just a kid, but they loaned him a rifle & marched around with him doing stupid muh freedumb shit, until they didn't, letting him get separated & leaving him to fend for himself after the police declared a curfew. Now that it turned ugly, where'd they go?
Find where I said he had intent to murder, genius.I bring this up because it was not a coincidence. What normal person tries to find and then chase someone with a rifle, which is shown clearly in the Facebook stream I posted? A reasonable person with the rifle would think this isn't a normal person that they are dealing with, yet you guys think Kyle should just take it up the ass and just hope he doesn't get beat up and/or have the rifle used against him.
Even some of the liberals started to come around.
Column: Here’s why Kyle Rittenhouse, the teen shooting suspect in Kenosha killings, is likely to get off
Kyle Rittenhouse is going to walk. This is my conclusion as I emerge, blinking in the light, from the rabbit hole I’ve been down all week of self-defense law, jury-instruction language, charg…www.chicagotribune.com
See above. You love defending thug behavior.
What do you believe shows proof of intent to murder? Wearing gloves? Just going there armed? Firearm crossing state lines? Illegal possession of gun? Why can't cops use reasoning like this to establish threat again? The irony is fucking hilarious.
We should stop calling them a militia - they're armed mobs. Based on the linked oped below, militias are supposed to operate under the civil government - not as privately organized entities
Kyle Rittenhouse and his militia defense ignores that private paramilitaries are illegal
A militia operates under the authority of the president or a governor; if it doesn’t, it’s just an armed mob.www.nbcnews.com
Find where I said he had intent to murder, genius.
I'll wait here.
And you're defending this guy-
And all the members of the stupid militia who conspired to make a tense situation worse. They know he's just a kid, but they loaned him a rifle & marched around with him doing stupid muh freedumb shit, until they didn't, letting him get separated & leaving him to fend for himself after the police declared a curfew. Now that it turned ugly, where'd they go?
You said he came there to kill political opponents. You agreed with the charges against him? wtf
If we believe Kyle is who Rosenbaum was referring to at the gas station when he said, "Why'd he do that? Where'd he go?" and someone replies, "He ran off", how is Kyle the aggressor if Rosenbaum goes away from the station to try to find him? According to the law, Kyle is the victim. If we assume Rosenbaum wasn't referring to Kyle and just wanted to pick on someone after leaving the station, it makes it even more comical that he's being viewed as the "victim". This could be the case, since I believe he's the one who says, "Let's jack them and take their guns, that's what I say".
Paintballs? Gallon cans!Since Trump has set the precedent is it ok for fire paintballs on his supporters that show up?
Even though I've seen it a thousand times I'm still impressed by all they hypocrisy of angry white people on the internet and especially this forum.
The cops aren't shooting black people.
The cops are shooting black people but its not a big deal.
It is a big deal but they deserved it.
They didn't deserve it but its all Obama's fault.
I wonder if a hundred years from now your gang of sheep is gonna wake up and realize they've been brainwashed for decades. I wonder if we'll still have a country a hundred years from now.
Facts and statistics can be challenging, I know.
But tell us more about how we should defund the police along with other white moronic liberals saying that on their Facebook from their gated suburb neighborhoods.
Meanwhile - ACTUAL black people are telling you to shut the fuck up and that they are NOT in favor of defunding the police because they depend upon them daily to police THEIR neighborhoods.
Framing it that way is entirely intentional, meant only to discredit the voice of those who deign to speak out against injustice.There is no point in explaining to you because you aren’t even capable of having an honest discussion. Defunding the police doesn’t mean abolishing the police. You’d know this if you weren’t so fucking ignorant of every topic you post in.
Framing it that way is entirely intentional, meant only to discredit the voice of those who deign to speak out against injustice.
Facts and statistics can be challenging, I know.
But tell us more about how we should defund the police along with other white moronic liberals saying that on their Facebook from their gated suburb neighborhoods.
Meanwhile - ACTUAL black people are telling you to shut the fuck up and that they are NOT in favor of defunding the police because they depend upon them daily to police THEIR neighborhoods.
Funny the only people talking about defund the police are Trump and Fox News, not Biden. However that has never stopped you from lying before.Facts and statistics can be challenging, I know.
But tell us more about how we should defund the police along with other white moronic liberals saying that on their Facebook from their gated suburb neighborhoods.
Meanwhile - ACTUAL black people are telling you to shut the fuck up and that they are NOT in favor of defunding the police because they depend upon them daily to police THEIR neighborhoods.
The thread is 41 pages so I’m sure others have responded with similar opinions but I don’t think the shooting in this case was unjustified and certainly not race related other than he just so happened to be black.
They responded to a domestic complaint on Jacob Blake but he has a warrant so they try to arrest him. Hes not cooperative and fights back, and ends up wrestling with the cops on the ground. They taze him after that but that didn’t work. He then goes to his car to reach for something and that’s when he was shot.
At first glance the video does look bad with them shooting him in the back but when you take into account all of the events that led up to it then I could definitely see from the cops perspective that he was reaching for a weapon (which he may have been, there was a knife in there). Was it too soon for the cop and he should have waited until he actually saw the gun? Yeah probably, but it’s easy to play armchair quarterback where we get to slow things down and pick it apart at our leisure. The cop didn’t have that luxury and everything was happening split second and from his perspective he had someone they were trying to arrest who was being extremely combative and they’ve tried both peaceful as well as non-lethal measures but he was fighting back on both and then went to reach for something. What would you do..? Remember everything is happening split second.
It seems like a justified shot (I find it ridiculous at this point this police depot doesn’t have body cams btw), there’s nothing at all to indicate race played any part in it, and the riots afterwards were absolutely uncalled for.
Race most definitely played a roll. It may not have been intentional but the unconscious biases people have of black people is real. We’ve seen much hairier situations with police interacting with white people and it didn’t elicit the same type of response. People keep focusing on each individual situation looking for anything to invalidate the one thing that ties them all together, racial disparity in the justice system.
And we’ve seen much less hairy situations involving white people that resulted in death. For proof watch the video of the murder of Daniel Shaver (of which the cop was disgustingly found not guilty), it should absolutely make your blood boil.
It’s completely unfair to assign some sort of race element to every single event involving a black person and say that "subconsciously" the cop is guilty of being racist. That’s nuts and in my opinion undermines the incidents where there really is a race element involved because you’d be crying wolf at every incident involving a black person.
Here's a look at our jury system:You aren’t listening. For one I didn’t say every single event and I most certainly didn’t say every cop is a racist subconsciously so I’m not sure why you are resorting to straw man arguments. What I said was that there are unconscious biases with black people and I’ll go one step further and say it’s not only a white person thing.
While you continue to look at individual acts, you do so at the expense of missing the larger picture of systemic racism that exist in our justice system (notice the use of the words justice system and not specifically law enforcement).
Where's the evidence he was "wrestling" with the cops? Small wonder if the KPD had body cams like they were supposed to we would have more answers.The thread is 41 pages so I’m sure others have responded with similar opinions but I don’t think the shooting in this case was unjustified and certainly not race related other than he just so happened to be black.
They responded to a domestic complaint on Jacob Blake but he has a warrant so they try to arrest him. Hes not cooperative and fights back, and ends up wrestling with the cops on the ground. They taze him after that but that didn’t work. He then goes to his car to reach for something and that’s when he was shot.
At first glance the video does look bad with them shooting him in the back but when you take into account all of the events that led up to it then I could definitely see from the cops perspective that he was reaching for a weapon (which he may have been, there was a knife in there). Was it too soon for the cop and he should have waited until he actually saw the gun? Yeah probably, but it’s easy to play armchair quarterback where we get to slow things down and pick it apart at our leisure. The cop didn’t have that luxury and everything was happening split second and from his perspective he had someone they were trying to arrest who was being extremely combative and they’ve tried both peaceful as well as non-lethal measures but he was fighting back on both and then went to reach for something. What would you do..? Remember everything is happening split second.
It seems like a justified shot (I find it ridiculous at this point this police depot doesn’t have body cams btw), there’s nothing at all to indicate race played any part in it, and the riots afterwards were absolutely uncalled for.
Now if you have an explanation for the disparate treatment, I'm willing to listen.
Kyle Rittenhouse is allowed to walk right past the cops after killing 2 protestors
Rioting mobs and peaceful protestors are two different groups. I support the latter and condemn the former. However you keep trying to conflate them.Really, do you condemn the rioting mob, or are you still calling them peaceful protestors?
Oh, wait...
Protestors don't chase people down the streets, to commit violence if not outright murder.
That you cover for them with that gentle label - is all that needs to be said with regards to willingness to listen.
Wouldn't you agree?
Rioting mobs and peaceful protestors are two different groups. I support the latter and condemn the former. However you keep trying to conflate them.
KR pointing his loaded gun at people deserved to have it taken from him by the crowd. Unfortunately they were unsuccessful
Peaceful protesters most certainly do 1-3.Peaceful protesting isn't....
1) Being out past a mandated curfew
2) Not having permits in place to do the protest
3) Shutting down streets, roads, traffic is 100% illegal in and of itself.
4) Committing violent acts against people
5) Committing robbery and/or arson to businesses, homes, cars, and police property
6) Throwing items such as Molotov cocktails, bricks, etc... at individuals, police, and property
6) A large chunk of your "protesters" (over 50% - but really 100% with Item #1) are committing 1-6 and you allow them to blend into the crowd and shield them from being pursued. All 6 of the items I mentioned above are illegal and can be charged to the rioters if the police opt to. There are probably many others that I'm not accounting for as well.