Police office resigns after roughing up driver for throwing speeding ticket out the window

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NFS4

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Originally posted by: DonVito
Sometimes this place makes me sad. There is a lot of free-floating anger and frustration with women among the members here, and it expresses itself in situations like this one.

My own feeling is that this woman is hardly a model citizen, and what she did was stupid, but the officer completely overreacted, and used significant force in a situation that required none. No decent police officer would do what he did, and if he is this lacking in composure he shouldn't be wearing a uniform. The department has, IMO, reacted appropriately (if anything I'm surprised and impressed they are so willing to admit he acted wrongfully), but they will still end up settling this case for a significant amount to get her to shut up, and to remove the case from the spotlight. I can live with that, even if it's a windfall to the "victim."

QFT
 

jpeyton

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Originally posted by: state 08
I think the b1tch deserved it.

WHY the fvck would you not blow? Then on top of that, disrepecting him by throwing the ticket out the window.

If I was him, I'd be thinking, "man... that was sooooo worth it, lol."

Yes, losing your job over some random traffic stop is so worth it :roll:

The cop was smart to resign. What an idiot.
 

smack Down

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Originally posted by: FallenHero
Originally posted by: smack Down
Originally posted by: rivan
It's a shame cops like these color the brush all cops get painted with. As with most groups, the average cop isn't like the ones we see on the news.

I've been hassled by cops. I wasn't happy about it at the time. Then again, I deserved it. I knew it then, but wasn't mature enough to admit it - even to myself. It sounds like this woman didn't deserve it, but I just can't stand the anti-police flamefests these posts end up turning into. Cops are people too - people that are keeping your house from being robbed while you're at work; people that work every day of the year; people that work all hours of the day, and generally don't make a great living doing so. Does that give them a free pass on stuff like this? Not even close. Should it mean that the average cop busting your ass for the dime bag on your front seat you didn't even try to hide deserves your derision because you broke the law? No.

Complete BS. Cops are not prevent any significant amount of crime.

Oh really? Take away the police from your area and see how quickly crime goes up. Random patrols do prevent crime...the determined ones will commit crimes regardless.

My area has a whooping 40 hours of police coverage a week. I guess we better hope all theifs work the same hours as the police and the cop is 15 miles away running a speed trap.
 

waggy

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Dec 14, 2000
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Originally posted by: sygyzy
Originally posted by: Unheard
The lawyer is pulling the race card (see the quote from the slideshow). I wish the cop would beat his ass to for that. If she wasn't black, wahhhhhh cry me a fvcking river, red, white, pink, blue, or orange, he was going to snap one way or another.

I don't think the race card should have been pulled either but you seem like one of the growing legions of ATOT (or heck citizens in general) who are SO anti-race, that anytime the card is pulled, even when completely valid, you dismiss the case. No questions asked. You (all) should be very careful with this.

i agree to a point. BUT in this case i agree that the race card should not be played. he did not do this because she was black he did this because he was not cut out to be a cop.

I think pulling the race card at every opportunity actually hurts. people become so numb to the charge that it loses all value. now when something is actually a race issue people just ignore it and think "oh race card yet again. big deal" and do not pay as much attention to it.
 

waggy

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Dec 14, 2000
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Originally posted by: ViviTheMage
there is no reason for him to resign :/

yeap. he should have waited until the lawsuit for police abuse hit and he is fired and can not get a job anyplace else.

unfortunately now he can go to another department out of state and get a job.
 

Turin39789

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Nov 21, 2000
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Originally posted by: BlancoNino
Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: BlancoNino
Originally posted by: forfor
I hope she files a lawsuit and the Ottowa Hills PD goes after the cop to pay for the settlement. That kind of behaviour is intolerable.

Pig :thumbsdown: (just that cop)

A lawsuit for what? I doubt she was injured. They probably threw out her ticket and that's pretty damn generous.

They did throw out the ticket. I agree that she probably wasn't injured. Looked like he just subdued her. Only thing hurt was her feelings.

Hurting someone's feelings these days is worth at least 10 million for some stupid reason.


No apparently if you hurt someone's feelings these days they will pull you out of your car because you tossed the ticket and made dem angwy.
 

Pacemaker

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Jul 13, 2001
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Originally posted by: ebaycj
Originally posted by: state 08
I think the b1tch deserved it.

WHY the fvck would you not blow?

Well my attorney says that if you're guilty, you should refuse all tests. Including the blood test @ the station. By the time they get a court to force the test on you, you will be sober.

Keep in mind that in many states not taking it can be an admission of guilt.

http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/a...e?AID=/20060710/OPINION/607100325/1002

Irsay refused blood-alcohol and field sobriety tests when she was arrested after traveling at nearly twice the speed limit through the intersection of 38th and Illinois streets in July 2003. Although a police report said she had an odor of alcohol on her breath, her eyes were bloodshot and her balance was unsteady, Irsay denied being drunk. She had a long list of witnesses prepared to testify she had little to drink at an event she attended earlier that night.

It's questionable how much Irsay benefited from refusing sobriety tests. Her refusal resulted in a mandatory one-year suspension of her driver's license, and the reckless driving charge cost her a $1,000 fine. A typical penalty for a first-time drunken driving offense is a 30-day license suspension and a $500 fine.

While yes it's better than a DUI it's no walk in the park either.
 

forfor

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Originally posted by: Turin39789
Originally posted by: BlancoNino
Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: BlancoNino
Originally posted by: forfor
I hope she files a lawsuit and the Ottowa Hills PD goes after the cop to pay for the settlement. That kind of behaviour is intolerable.

Pig :thumbsdown: (just that cop)

A lawsuit for what? I doubt she was injured. They probably threw out her ticket and that's pretty damn generous.

They did throw out the ticket. I agree that she probably wasn't injured. Looked like he just subdued her. Only thing hurt was her feelings.

Hurting someone's feelings these days is worth at least 10 million for some stupid reason.


No apparently if you hurt someone's feelings these days they will pull you out of your car because you tossed the ticket and made dem angwy.

:thumbsup: Owned
 

MaxDepth

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Jun 12, 2001
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When is violence EVER! EVER justified as a response to a non-violent act?
For you members that loudly proclaim "the bitch deserved it" I feel truly ashamed of you being a member and a male. For you all, I suggest you look up the word, Misogynist.

Second, what in the hell is worng with you? Your momma didn't show you any affection? You got turned down at the school dance? You had to pay for your first sexual encounter? Jesus, you are a sorry lot.

I have not seen the car cam video and I think, neither has anyone else. Before passing judgement, should you refrain from a decision - at least until you watch it? If she was ugly to the officer and even spouted vitrol, the police office can report her hostility and she would have been punished for her misconduct. He knew he was being taped and he had been trained to handle these situations. Yes, policemen face off or bad days. It would be wrong to think they will act perfectly and at all times. I cannot comment any further on his actions because, again, I have not seen the tape. But it is NOT however a reason to lose his cool and beat a woman.

And those you are anti-women should be ashamed of themselves. That is, if you have ever known shame.
:thumbsdown:
 

NFS4

No Lifer
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Originally posted by: MaxDepth
When is violence EVER! EVER justified as a response to a non-violent act?
For you members that loudly proclaim "the bitch deserved it" I feel truly ashamed of you being a member and a male. For you all, I suggest you look up the word, Misogynist.

Second, what in the hell is worng with you? Your momma didn't show you any affection? You got turned down at the school dance? You had to pay for your first sexual encounter? Jesus, you are a sorry lot.

I have not seen the car cam video and I think, neither has anyone else. Before passing judgement, should you refrain from a decision - at least until you watch it? If she was ugly to the officer and even spouted vitrol, the police office can report her hostility and she would have been punished for her misconduct. He knew he was being taped and he had been trained to handle these situations. Yes, policemen face off or bad days. It would be wrong to think they will act perfectly and at all times. I cannot comment any further on his actions because, again, I have not seen the tape. But it is NOT however a reason to lose his cool and beat a woman.

And those you are anti-women should be ashamed of themselves. That is, if you have ever known shame.
:thumbsdown:

Uhh, the video is in the original post.

1) Officer says "Drive Safely" and starts to walk back to his car
2) Woman throws ticket out window
3) Officer goes ballistic
 

MaxDepth

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Sorry. I didn't see the link as my browser rendered it the first time. And my workplace does not allow video. But from seeing the four slides, I can see he had her on the ground. So yeah, I stand by my previous post about some of the guys here.
 

state 08

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Jun 6, 2005
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Originally posted by: MaxDepth
When is violence EVER! EVER justified as a response to a non-violent act?
For you members that loudly proclaim "the bitch deserved it" I feel truly ashamed of you being a member and a male. For you all, I suggest you look up the word, Misogynist.

Second, what in the hell is worng with you? Your momma didn't show you any affection? You got turned down at the school dance? You had to pay for your first sexual encounter? Jesus, you are a sorry lot.

I have not seen the car cam video and I think, neither has anyone else. Before passing judgement, should you refrain from a decision - at least until you watch it? If she was ugly to the officer and even spouted vitrol, the police office can report her hostility and she would have been punished for her misconduct. He knew he was being taped and he had been trained to handle these situations. Yes, policemen face off or bad days. It would be wrong to think they will act perfectly and at all times. I cannot comment any further on his actions because, again, I have not seen the tape. But it is NOT however a reason to lose his cool and beat a woman.

And those you are anti-women should be ashamed of themselves. That is, if you have ever known shame.
:thumbsdown:

Why do you assume that the people who thought that the b1tch deserved was because of her sex? If it was a guy, he would've deserved to get slammed to the ground just as much as she did.

You're the one preaching inequality buddy.
 

Stuxnet

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Jun 16, 2005
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Originally posted by: MaxDepth
When is violence EVER! EVER justified as a response to a non-violent act?
For you members that loudly proclaim "the bitch deserved it" I feel truly ashamed of you being a member and a male. For you all, I suggest you look up the word, Misogynist.

Second, what in the hell is worng with you? Your momma didn't show you any affection? You got turned down at the school dance? You had to pay for your first sexual encounter? Jesus, you are a sorry lot.

I have not seen the car cam video and I think, neither has anyone else. Before passing judgement, should you refrain from a decision - at least until you watch it? If she was ugly to the officer and even spouted vitrol, the police office can report her hostility and she would have been punished for her misconduct. He knew he was being taped and he had been trained to handle these situations. Yes, policemen face off or bad days. It would be wrong to think they will act perfectly and at all times. I cannot comment any further on his actions because, again, I have not seen the tape. But it is NOT however a reason to lose his cool and beat a woman.

And those you are anti-women should be ashamed of themselves. That is, if you have ever known shame.
:thumbsdown:

Thank you for taking time away from judging the universe to remind us all how terribly awful we are. We will all lose sleep tonight, I promise .
 

Stuxnet

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Jun 16, 2005
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Originally posted by: state 08
Originally posted by: MaxDepth
When is violence EVER! EVER justified as a response to a non-violent act?
For you members that loudly proclaim "the bitch deserved it" I feel truly ashamed of you being a member and a male. For you all, I suggest you look up the word, Misogynist.

Second, what in the hell is worng with you? Your momma didn't show you any affection? You got turned down at the school dance? You had to pay for your first sexual encounter? Jesus, you are a sorry lot.

I have not seen the car cam video and I think, neither has anyone else. Before passing judgement, should you refrain from a decision - at least until you watch it? If she was ugly to the officer and even spouted vitrol, the police office can report her hostility and she would have been punished for her misconduct. He knew he was being taped and he had been trained to handle these situations. Yes, policemen face off or bad days. It would be wrong to think they will act perfectly and at all times. I cannot comment any further on his actions because, again, I have not seen the tape. But it is NOT however a reason to lose his cool and beat a woman.

And those you are anti-women should be ashamed of themselves. That is, if you have ever known shame.
:thumbsdown:

Why do you assume that the people who thought that the b1tch deserved was because of her sex? If it was a guy, he would've deserved to get slammed to the ground just as much as she did.

You're the one preaching inequality buddy.

Because if we're misogynists, he can feel chivalrous while casting judgement down upon us mere mortals.

FWIW, I think *anyone* acting like a raging, disrepectful lunatic "has it coming". Male, female, black, white. I don't give a ******.

Group X assumes we think she deserved it because she's black. Group Y assumes we think she deserved it because she's female.

Personally, I think she deserved it because she drove a white car. I've always had an issue with white cars. You could say I'm prejudiced against them.

(or maybe it was just because she was a mouthy, belligerant, ignoramous with no respect for someone just trying to do his job... nah, that couldn't possibly be it)
 

BAMAVOO

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I don't see her getting thrown around. I see a woman that did not want to do what she was asked. Then when the ticket was written she threw it out the window. He then asked her to step out of the vehicle and she immediately begins to cuss and again not listen to directions.


If she would have listened it would not have happened, so yes she did get what she deserved which was for the officer to protect himself and put her on the ground.
 

forfor

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Originally posted by: BAMAVOO
I don't see her getting thrown around. I see a woman that did not want to do what she was asked. Then when the ticket was written she threw it out the window. He then asked her to step out of the vehicle and she immediately begins to cuss and again not listen to directions.


If she would have listened it would not have happened, so yes she did get what she deserved which was for the officer to protect himself and put her on the ground.


Ummm, nice way to bullsh!t. He didn't ask her to step out of the car, he just went straight to the car to open the door and pull her out as soon as he saw her throwing out the ticket. So stop with your bullsh!t bollock juggler.

 

MrBond

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I go 50 on that road all the time. I never even think about it, it's two lanes in both directions.

I should probably slow down
 

jtvang125

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Originally posted by: BAMAVOO
I don't see her getting thrown around. I see a woman that did not want to do what she was asked. Then when the ticket was written she threw it out the window. He then asked her to step out of the vehicle and she immediately begins to cuss and again not listen to directions.


If she would have listened it would not have happened, so yes she did get what she deserved which was for the officer to protect himself and put her on the ground.


That's what I saw too. Seems she was being argumentive after being pulled over and refusing to do what she was told. It starts looking all good and well until she throws her ticket out the window and he just snaps.
 

BAMAVOO

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Originally posted by: forfor
Originally posted by: BAMAVOO
I don't see her getting thrown around. I see a woman that did not want to do what she was asked. Then when the ticket was written she threw it out the window. He then asked her to step out of the vehicle and she immediately begins to cuss and again not listen to directions.


If she would have listened it would not have happened, so yes she did get what she deserved which was for the officer to protect himself and put her on the ground.


Ummm, nice way to bullsh!t. He didn't ask her to step out of the car, he just went straight to the car to open the door and pull her out as soon as he saw her throwing out the ticket. So stop with your bullsh!t bollock juggler.

Watch and listen again as she starts cussing when he opens the door and asks her to step out.

 

Stuxnet

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Originally posted by: Genx87
Of course it is because she is black, female, and short.

Fixed so no assumption of racism, prejudice, and bigotry is left out.

We MUST not assume that it was simply because she was a complete ass.

 
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Originally posted by: jbourne77
Originally posted by: Genx87
Of course it is because she is black, female, and short.

Fixed so no assumption of racism, prejudice, and bigotry is left out.

We MUST not assume that it was simply because she was a complete ass.

I don't dispute that she was an ass, but that isn't why this happened. It happened because the cop was so lacking in composure that he reacted to her immature behavior with an unprovoked, unwarranted use of force. That makes him a liability to his department, plain and simple.
 

BlancoNino

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I had a friend who was wrestled out of a car and thrown to the ground by a police officer for not agreeing to get out of the car. He complained and they told him the officer had every right to do what he did since he didn't comply.
 
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