Police Officers unloads bullets right into the K-9 Dog

[mugs]

Originally posted by: bsobel

unless there's more to the story than meets the eye: For example if the suspect was a confirmed killer.

Too bad the cops didn't get a chance to ask for his sheet eh? The cops had less than a fraction of a second to respond when he moved his gun towards them. All you have in this thread is second guessing from untrained people who've never had a gun pointed at them.

:thumbsup:

 

[lyssword]

Originally posted by: bsobel

unless there's more to the story than meets the eye: For example if the suspect was a confirmed killer.

Too bad the cops didn't get a chance to ask for his sheet eh? The cops had less than a fraction of a second to respond when he moved his gun towards them. All you have in this thread is second guessing from untrained people who've never had a gun pointed at them.

No one argues that the perp put himself in dangerous situation by confronting the cops. But the cops are to blame as well, because the suspect did what they asked to do, which is drop the gun, and then they fired.. However the video quality is so poor, I can't really tell what the suspect said.. this video seems to be out of sync (at least the one i'm watching, for first 20 seconds the picture doesn't move) Also in this video the suspect never pointed gun at anyone, as far as I can tell..

And are you saying you are trained and had a gun pointed at you?

 

[noni]

Originally posted by: 91TTZ

Originally posted by: noni

In any case, they had the right to shoot but exercised poor judgement unless there's more to the story than meets the eye: For example if the suspect was a confirmed killer.

If he was a confirmed killer then he wouldn't be a suspect... he'd be a convict.

LOL thats right. I should've written "If the suspect were a confirmed killer".

 

[halik]

the video is good second out of sync with the sound.

 

[bret]

ya killing a police dog is a major crime.

but if you are the police it doesnt matter, its your dog. i bet the owner was pissed.

 

[gabemcg]

I'm ashamed to be human. How can we value the life of an animal more than the life of a person? Even if this guy did something really bad, he should not have met his end this way. Period. Everyone was more concerned with the dog then their fellow human being that laid there dying without any dignity. He's lying there just writhing, obviously no longer a threat, and not one of those officers has the decency to assess his injuries or at least hold his hand while he died. There is something wrong.

 

[OS]

holy sheit that's some trigger happy cops.

You guys gotta be kidding me about the not letting the cops take shots, that one guy had a handgun, there was obviously more than one cop with automatic weapons.

 

[PrinceofWands]

Originally posted by: fbrdphreak

Originally posted by: MX2times
Okay, found this. Thought I heard or read somewhere that the penalty was the same as killing an officer. Guess I was mistaken.

Injuring or killing a police dog is a 3rd degree felony punishable by imprisonment of up to 5 years.

That's bullsh!t :disgust:

Why?

 

[Nik]

Originally posted by: Jahee
why did they even fire at the man in the first place, he didnt make any sudden movements or anything i dont understand...

He had a gun and was yelling that if they let the dog loose on him, he's going to start shooting at people. They let the dog loose, he started to swing his weapon to bare, police hosed down the entire porch, catching the dog in the crossfire.

 

[Brutuskend]

No way I'm watching this.



Poor doggie.

 

[Dacalo]

I watched the video again and I must say, the dog must have been released first, and the guy seeing this, threw away the gun. Now I don't know why the police started to shoot though. There is no way he threw away the gun and then the dog ran toward him unless the police officers were only like 5ft away, which is unlikely.

The police fvcked up. It's ironic how we rely on these high school grads to protect us, and they get to carry arms.

 

[Mrvile]

Originally posted by: 91TTZ
I just read up on this, and the police shot him 68 times.

Any more info about what happened? Where did you read about it?

 

[StuckMojo]

that's a different incident. that guy was shot in the woods. and *he* shot the dog, along with the officer it belonged to.
http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/10/01/deputy.shooting.ap/index.html

 

[exdeath]

Originally posted by: Tiamat
criminal did what was asked. dog did what was asked. cops kill 'em both. wtf?

He did what he was told? No he didn't, he freaked only after the dog came at him.

You try having a crack head threatening you with a gun and give him the benefit of the doubt before you open fire when he makes a rapid move after disobeying orders.

I wonder what this guy's rap sheet was like; we won't be supporting him for the rest of his life.

Sucks for the dog though, f**king rookies have to hit a 8' x 8' area from 15 yards away what the hell?

 

[exdeath]

Originally posted by: ahurtt
God that was tragic and heart-breaking to watch. But from the look of it, it was definitely a horrible accident due to timing of a sequence of events. What I saw:

Bullets start flying, dog runs into already raining hail of bullets.
The same time the first guy started shooting must have been at almost the same instant the K-9 officer released the dog. Everybody was probably looking intently at the intended target (the man with the gun) and probably nobody noticed the dog running into the field of fire until it was too late. The lead was already flying.

LOL dude, I want a dog that can run 950+ feet/sec.

 

[exdeath]

Originally posted by: virtualgames0
I'm pretty convinced that the sound is off sync. Looks like the cops released the dog onto the guy. Which then the guy threw the gun.. and the cops had a knee jerk reaction seeing his hand come out with the gun and shot him, not knowing that he was taking the gun out to toss rather than shoot.
Conclusion: Police are incompetent.

Had he communicated with police and acknowledged that he is going to comply, and then slowly and deliberately removed the gun, this wouldn't have happened.

Instead he freaked at the last minute and made a sudden move. Not the wisest, but then not many in the perps like of work are.

 

[exdeath]

Originally posted by: lyssword
I don't fvcking get it, you are crying about a fvcking dog, while an UNARMED HUMAN was dying? You should just fvcking kill yourselves, you all are embarrassment to the human race.. Obviously the cops wanted to get some "action" and they didn't care if the suspect surrendered or if the dog was in the way, what a bunch of incompetent pricks..

Do me a favor, become a cop so I can get rich off your life insurance.

He didn't f**king surrender. If he did, they would have never sent the dog. He made the mistake of making a fast move bringing his hands out of a concealed position with a gun, only after police were given every indication that he was not going to comply.

 

[exdeath]

Originally posted by: shoRunner
every officer that fired their weapon that night should be fired, and charge with homicide. they guy was putting his gun down, and they shot him like a freaking firing squad. BUT the worst part was they didn't even go in to check on him after they shot him and he was CLEARLY still alive as he moved his arm a bit. They should have been attempting emergency first aid on him, but not one person goes up for a minimum of 2 minutes!!! INSANE!!!

See my previous posts idiot. He was not putting down his weapon.

 

[Journer]

god damn stupid mother fkcers!(*#)(!*#)(* i hope they all lose their badges >(

 

[exdeath]

Originally posted by: gabemcg
I'm ashamed to be human. How can we value the life of an animal more than the life of a person? Even if this guy did something really bad, he should not have met his end this way. Period. Everyone was more concerned with the dog then their fellow human being that laid there dying without any dignity. He's lying there just writhing, obviously no longer a threat, and not one of those officers has the decency to assess his injuries or at least hold his hand while he died. There is something wrong.

Your avatar is very fitting...

 

[SP33Demon]

Originally posted by: Injury

Originally posted by: yllus
Well - I have nothing against dogs, cats or other domesticated pets, and I don't want to derail this thread down that path - but I am feel obligated to say that the idea of equating the death of a police dog to a police officer is really, really dumb.

There are two types of life on this Earth: Human and other. Human life is sacrosanct. The other we routinely kill, torture and maim according to how cute they are and how good they taste. I refuse the thought of taking that level of arbitrary decisionmaking and turning it into law.

I see your point, but it's not about them being on the level of humans, it's that the fact that years of training a dog and the fact that it takes months... even a year of bonding with a dog for the handler and dog to work as a team.

It's kinda like... if someone were to hurt my dog, I'd kick their face in. They are my companion... not just a random pile of flesh and fur that I keep around to keep my feet warm at night. The dog grows to cherish you and you grow to cherish the dog.

It's a big step above "destroying city/police property", but at the same time a big step below "harming/killing an officer of the law".

Totally agree. It's not like the dog is a police car, where you can just order one and get it the next day.

 

[exdeath]

Just to sum up all my replys:

The guy got what he deserved. He was not complying. He stated he was not going to comply. Police send the dog as they acknowledge that the suspect has communicated that he is not going to comply. Since the suspect communicated and demonstrated his unwillingness to comply, the assumption is then that the only reason he would move his weapon is to fire. Suspect makes a rapid move with a hand gun from a concealed position. Police already know he was determined not to comply, they react in a split second and open fire. Only later they find out our would be suspect had a change of heart. Maybe he should have communicated that a little sooner. Maybe he was just throwing something to distract the dog as he took aim? The officers with the gun in their face didn't have the luxary of burying their face in a repeating video to see what that object flying through the air was. And nobody on this forum actually knows what that object was, we are just going by what the OP posted as his title, and the video is too grainy to tell.

As for the officers involved, they did what they were supposed to do. I won't hesitate to call police on their abuse of power. This situation does not apply. Were they trigger happy? You bet! You BETTER be trigger happy in that kind of situation or it could cost you your life.

*However* they should all be put on traffic duty until they can learn how to control their weapons. There is no reason the whole porch had to be sprayed from that distance. More so if they didn't know what was on the other side of that sheetrock and sliding glass window.

 

[latino666]

Originally posted by: waggy
WTF!?

first did they start shooting then they released the dog? or did they release the dog then start shooting? its hard to tell

also WTF did they shoot!? teh guy didn't point the gun at tehm. he threatened to but i didn't see anything. how sad

Without the sound it looks like the guy was going to shoot the dog but instead dropped his gun. Once he pulled it out with the dog coming at him they must of thought he was going to kill the dog so they opened fire. Its hard to tell because how bad the sound is off sync.

I sill think the cops were in the wrong. They should of waited to see if he was going to shoot the dog before going all triger happy.

 

[exdeath]

Originally posted by: latino666

Originally posted by: waggy
WTF!?

first did they start shooting then they released the dog? or did they release the dog then start shooting? its hard to tell

also WTF did they shoot!? teh guy didn't point the gun at tehm. he threatened to but i didn't see anything. how sad

Without the sound it looks like the guy was going to shoot the dog but instead dropped his gun. Once he pulled it out with the dog coming at him they must of thought he was going to kill the dog so they opened fire. Its hard to tell because how bad the sound is off sync.

I sill think thoguh the cops were in the wrong. They should of waited to see if he was going to shoot the dog before going all triger happy.

should have waited... :roll: How long would you have waited Mr. Righteous? How long is long enough? Only after you hear a bang? Do you have any idea how long it takes to squeeze a trigger and a bullet to hit its target? Fractions of a second. The suspect always knows what he intends to do and always has initiative. You don't wait until after they shoot.

If it was the other way around, everyone would have been saying 'they should have fired when they had the chance and 3 cops wouldn't be dead along with their dog and the neighbor across the street'

 

[OutHouse]

Originally posted by: 91TTZ

Originally posted by: bsobel

So the cops are cowards for not letting the perp take shots at them? Let me guess, your 14, live at home, and the only experience you have with the real world is online and via the stuff mommy buys you.

He did not take shots at them. He threw down the gun when the police dog attacked him. And then they killed him, AND their police dog.

dude STFU. you werent there so stop passing judgement when all you have seen is a grainy vid. here is a bit of advice, if you have a gun and a cop tells you to put it down, do so or suffer the results for any fast movements.