Police takedown of woman for speeding

[GarfieldtheCat]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...-teacher_us_57914ce1e4b0bdddc4d3e66b?section=

Violent take down of a black woman for the heinous crime of speeding!

After review of the video, her resisting arrest charge was dropped (go figure!). The cops got "counseling". Anyone surprised?

After she was put in the police car, she asked why are cops like that? It's on video that the cop said that black people have "violent tendencies".

“Why are so many people afraid of black people?” Spradlin asks King.

“That’s what I want to figure out, because I’m not a bad black person,” King responds.

“I can give you a really good, a really good idea why it might be that way,” the officer says. “Violent tendencies ... And I want you to think about that.”

Gee no racism there right?

And bonus points for the cops to throw in the "might be reaching for a gun" excuse. According to Merg from the other police shooting thread, I guess she should be lucky they just didn't shoot her since they thought she might have a gun, and that would make it OK to just go ahead and shoot her.

In an incident report, Richter said King was “uncooperative” and was “reaching for the front passenger side of the vehicle,” the American-Statesman reports. The officer said he feared the teacher may have been going for a weapon

So according to many people here, that would have given the officers total justification to shoot her right?

 

[Artdeco]

I wonder if the speeding ticket stuck.

The officer could/may have done permanent damage to her rotator cuffs by picking her up the way he did, what a mess.

Maybe it's a cultural thing, but I would have just put my legs in the car.

 

[fleshconsumed]

Here's another quote from nydailynews article:

“Ninety-nine percent of the time, when you hear about stuff like that, it is the black community that is being violent," Spradlin said. "That’s why a lot of the white people are afraid, and I don’t blame them. There are some guys I look at, and I know it is my job to deal with them, and I know it might go ugly, but that’s the way it goes.

He continued, “But yeah, some of them, because of their appearance and whatnot, some of them are very intimidating."

No bias there, none whatsoever. Power hungry cop with a deep seated sense of righteousness protecting white community from those evil black people.

 

[mxnerd]

Gosh, U.S. cops act more & more like licensed gang group, constantly use excessive violence and get away with it.

She probably put her driver license in passenger side's compartment, is that illegal?

Cops have been trained like robots and act like robots.

 

[senseamp]

This is why BLM has a very good point.

 

[Mxylplyx]

Maybe cops should just go ahead and shit their pants at the beginning of every shift so they can get it over with.

 

[senseamp]

We need to get automatic speeding cameras and fire a bunch of these cops.

 

[bruceb]

No, we don't want automatic speed cameras, wether the license gets points or not, it will cost you in fines. And you can not easily fight a photo ticket. Also sooner or later, more auto drive cars will be on the road and they always obey the speed limits. So for cities, towns, states, etc there goes a whole lot of revenue generated by most of these bogus or unneeded traffic tickets. Bad enough if you get in an accident. In a lot of cases you also get a ticket for Careless Driving or more if you were say drunk or with no license. This is in addition to how much your insurance will go up just for the accident, let alone the extra points.

 

[Artdeco]

We need to get automatic speeding cameras and fire a bunch of these cops.

Nooooooooooooo!

 

[Subyman]

So because she asked why she had to have her feet in the car, he assaulted her? Wtf is wrong with some of these cops? Can't they have a decent conversation like a normal human being? Then he comes out with the real reason, he thinks blacks are violent. Racist piece of shit.

 

[HomerJS]

So because she asked why she had to have her feet in the car, he assaulted her? Wtf is wrong with some of these cops? Can't they have a decent conversation like a normal human being? Then he comes out with the real reason, he thinks blacks are violent. Racist piece of shit.

So she exercises her constitutional rights and gets assaulted? But many here will say we shouldn't criticize the cops.

Things will change when instances of police abuse happen to more white people.

 

[DrunkenSano]

We need to get automatic speeding cameras and fire a bunch of these cops.

Worst idea ever. As bad as red light cameras.

 

[Puffnstuff]

Cops need incapacitation collars on them so if they start to get all ape with citizens they can be activated and drop them in their tracks until cooler heads can prevail to stop the violence.

 

[Iron Woode]

So because she asked why she had to have her feet in the car, he assaulted her? Wtf is wrong with some of these cops? Can't they have a decent conversation like a normal human being? Then he comes out with the real reason, he thinks blacks are violent. Racist piece of shit.

As she climbs out of her car, Richter tells her to stop.

“Ma’am, you’re being pulled over right now so I need you to take a seat back in your car,” he says.

“Are you serious?” King replies.

“Yes ma’am,” he says. “I’m not joking. Can I see your driver’s license? You’re being stopped for speeding.”

“But I’m already stopped so technically can you stop me?” King asks as she removes her license. “‘Cause you didn’t pull me over because I’m parked.”

“Ma’am, you were about to go inside without a wallet so I know you were only coming here because you know I was coming to pull you over,” Richter responds. “I can absolutely pull you over if you are already stopped, yes. Let me see your driver’s license.”

Richter then asks her to put her feet inside the car so he can close the door.

(“I did this so that if she decided to exit the vehicle again, it would give me some sort of reaction time to her doing so, versus her being half way out of the vehicle with the door open giving her an easy escape,” he wrote in his report, according to the Statesman.)

“Could you please hurry up?” King says.

“Okay ma’am, stand up for me,” Richter says, placing King’s license on top of her car and reaching inside after her.

“No, why are you grabbing me?” she shouts. “Oh my god.”

“Stop resisting,” the officer says multiple times as a struggle ensues — barely visible on the video — in the doorway of the car. At one point, the car horn blares as they tussle.

The officer then takes a step back and orders to “get out of the car,” before calling for backup.

“I’m getting out,” she says. “Let me get out. Do not touch me.”

“Don’t touch me,” she says again as the cop reaches inside and grabs her.

sounds like resisting to me.

 

[The Merg]

The Supreme Court has stated that the police can order people on a traffic stop into or out of a vehicle for any reason. The officer tells her to get into the car completely so that he can close the door. When she refuses, he tells her to get out, but then she refuses to do so. At that point, the police are allowed to use the force necessary to make her comply.

Now, at that point he appears to want to take her into custody or at least detain her and she resists, so he is allowed to continue to use force to detain her. Even after being on the ground, she continues to try to get up when he is giving her commands. I don't have an issue with the force he used.

Here's where I have a huge issue... His comments are completely unacceptable! There is no room for that kind of attitude or belief in police work.

The other issue I have is why she was being arrested. While the police can use force to detain someone, just someone resisting being detained is generally not sufficient for an arrest. Resisting arrest is just that. It means you resisted being arrested, not being detained. There are plenty of situations where the police use force to detain someone and in the end the person is let go without any charges.

In this case, from what I see in the video, she should have been detained, issued the summons, and then sent on her way. In Virginia, if she had refused to sign the summons at that time, she would be taken in front of a Magistrate to answer why (signing the summons is a promise to go to court or pre-pay a fine, if allowed).

 

[rommelrommel]

Doesn't the cop have to inform her that she's under arrest for her to be resisting arrest?

 

[PokerGuy]

I don't have an issue with the force he used.

Here's where I have a huge issue... His comments are completely unacceptable! There is no room for that kind of attitude or belief in police work.

Spot on, good post :thumbsup:

There is no room for that kind of racist attitude, especially among those entrusted with a badge to enforce the law.

The use of force itself is fine: she refused to obey lawful orders and continued to fight him throughout.

 

[The Merg]

Doesn't the cop have to inform her that she's under arrest for her to be resisting arrest?

In most situations, yes. There can be some exceptions though.

 

[glenn1]

The Supreme Court has stated that the police can order people on a traffic stop into or out of a vehicle for any reason. The officer tells her to get into the car completely so that he can close the door. When she refuses, he tells her to get out, but then she refuses to do so. At that point, the police are allowed to use the force necessary to make her comply.

Now, at that point he appears to want to take her into custody or at least detain her and she resists, so he is allowed to continue to use force to detain her. Even after being on the ground, she continues to try to get up when he is giving her commands. I don't have an issue with the force he used.

Here's where I have a huge issue... His comments are completely unacceptable! There is no room for that kind of attitude or belief in police work.

The other issue I have is why she was being arrested. While the police can use force to detain someone, just someone resisting being detained is generally not sufficient for an arrest. Resisting arrest is just that. It means you resisted being arrested, not being detained. There are plenty of situations where the police use force to detain someone and in the end the person is let go without any charges.

In this case, from what I see in the video, she should have been detained, issued the summons, and then sent on her way. In Virginia, if she had refused to sign the summons at that time, she would be taken in front of a Magistrate to answer why (signing the summons is a promise to go to court or pre-pay a fine, if allowed).

BLM has a point but so does this poster. If you're pulled over for speeding, you should comply with reasonable lawful orders and accept your ticket/warning and move on with your life. While 'standing up to the police' when you're pulled over might allow you to vent your frustration about the situation it's never going to help and can only make things worse. In some of these videos it's almost like the person being stopped is purposely trying to escalate things and see if they can get their ass kicked for some reason. Doesn't excuse anything the cops do but it does make me shake my head.

 

[AnonymouseUser]

She was a dumbass and acting guilty as fuck. Not feeling any sympathy for her.

 

[rommelrommel]

She was a dumbass and acting guilty as fuck. Not feeling any sympathy for her.

If he wrote her 14 tickets and told her to get lost I'd have no sympathy for her. However, he unnecessarily and improperly arrested her while dropping some major hints that it was racially motivated.

 

[master_shake_]

bad boys, bad boys, what cha gonna do what cha gon do when they jackboot you.

 

[dank69]

The Supreme Court has stated that the police can order people on a traffic stop into or out of a vehicle for any reason. The officer tells her to get into the car completely so that he can close the door. When she refuses, he tells her to get out, but then she refuses to do so. At that point, the police are allowed to use the force necessary to make her comply.

Now, at that point he appears to want to take her into custody or at least detain her and she resists, so he is allowed to continue to use force to detain her. Even after being on the ground, she continues to try to get up when he is giving her commands. I don't have an issue with the force he used.

Here's where I have a huge issue... His comments are completely unacceptable! There is no room for that kind of attitude or belief in police work.

The other issue I have is why she was being arrested. While the police can use force to detain someone, just someone resisting being detained is generally not sufficient for an arrest. Resisting arrest is just that. It means you resisted being arrested, not being detained. There are plenty of situations where the police use force to detain someone and in the end the person is let go without any charges.

In this case, from what I see in the video, she should have been detained, issued the summons, and then sent on her way. In Virginia, if she had refused to sign the summons at that time, she would be taken in front of a Magistrate to answer why (signing the summons is a promise to go to court or pre-pay a fine, if allowed).

Just because they CAN do something, doesn't mean it is RIGHT to do that thing.

 

[AnonymouseUser]

If he wrote her 14 tickets and told her to get lost I'd have no sympathy for her. However, he unnecessarily and improperly arrested her while dropping some major hints that it was racially motivated.

So police officers should just pretend that blacks aren't violent? She was clearly a flight risk. She refused direct orders to close the door. She refused direct orders to exit the vehicle. She resisted forceful removal from the vehicle. She resisted arrest. She lived up to the stereotype.

 

[The Merg]

Just because they CAN do something, doesn't mean it is RIGHT to do that thing.

Can you be more specific as to what part of my post to which you are referring?