Political Litmus Test

PSUstoekl

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Hey all,

Over Christmas break, I've made it a goal of mine to start posting on various message boards, this being one of them. So, as a sort of "welcoming party" to me, I would be much obliged if you could offer your opinions on some issues.

  • First, how would you describe yourself politically? Socially liberal? Libertarian? Green Party? Please, expose the nuances of your beliefs.

  • Second, who do you support the strongest going into this upcoming presidential election? Specifically, what do you find in these candidates that makes them so appealing? Is there anyone towards which you have a particular angst?

  • Third, what political situations currently are most important to you? What do you see as being important on the horizon?

  • Finally, what operating system do you use? Do you like it, or think of trying anything else?

So, how do you see it...?
 

PSUstoekl

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I guess I should kinda kick off by putting my own beliefs. So here goes:

1) I would call myself an independent (optimistically, anyway), but on most issues on tend to go to the liberal side. This definitely does not mean that those "like-minded" people in congress or elsewhere always make the best decisions, but based on theory alone I tend to side on the left.

2) Honestly, I like two candidates, though I'm not sure if one is really that electable. I like John Edwards and Barack, but I think Barack has a better shot at winning. Maybe it's just 2004 is too fresh in my brain? Who the heck knows. As far as anyone I really don't like, that one's morbidly clear: Rudy Guiliani, simply because of his positions on foreign policy. Utterly mindless.

3) To me, health care, global warming, education and freedom of technology are my biggest concerns politically. Right up there also is faith in politics- I believe our forefathers intended for their to be a wall, and made it that way. Any empire that tries to make itself a theocracy is ultimately doomed... there's my little philosophy for the night.

Finally, I run Mac OS X primarily with Windows in Boot Camp (I use it a few times a month). I also have an old HP box I've had since 2002, and put Ubuntu on that. Fun!
 

Siddhartha

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  • First, how would you describe yourself politically? Socially liberal? Libertarian? Green Party? Please, expose the nuances of your beliefs.

  • Second, who do you support the strongest going into this upcoming presidential election? Specifically, what do you find in these candidates that makes them so appealing? Is there anyone towards which you have a particular angst?

  • Third, what political situations currently are most important to you? What do you see as being important on the horizon?

  • Finally, what operating system do you use? Do you like it, or think of trying anything else?

So, how do you see it...?[/quote]

I am in the "anybody besides the Republican" camp. I would not support another Stalin, Hitler, etc but I am keeping an open mind.

I do not see these as political situations but the issues most important to me are:
foreign policy, the war, the economy, safe food and consumer goods, separation of church and state, and the overall preservation of the Bill of Rights.

Windows\Microsoft. I build my own computers, which means Apple is out and Linux does not appeal to me.

 

JS80

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Oct 24, 2005
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Originally posted by: PSUstoekl
I guess I should kinda kick off by putting my own beliefs. So here goes:

1) I would call myself an independent (optimistically, anyway), but on most issues on tend to go to the liberal side. This definitely does not mean that those "like-minded" people in congress or elsewhere always make the best decisions, but based on theory alone I tend to side on the left.

2) Honestly, I like two candidates, though I'm not sure if one is really that electable. I like John Edwards and Barack, but I think Barack has a better shot at winning. Maybe it's just 2004 is too fresh in my brain? Who the heck knows. As far as anyone I really don't like, that one's morbidly clear: Rudy Guiliani, simply because of his positions on foreign policy. Utterly mindless.

3) To me, health care, global warming, education and freedom of technology are my biggest concerns politically. Right up there also is faith in politics- I believe our forefathers intended for their to be a wall, and made it that way. Any empire that tries to make itself a theocracy is ultimately doomed... there's my little philosophy for the night.

Finally, I run Mac OS X primarily with Windows in Boot Camp (I use it a few times a month). I also have an old HP box I've had since 2002, and put Ubuntu on that. Fun!

You are not an independant. You're a flaming liberal. And your view on what "our forefathers" believed in is WAY off.
 

HombrePequeno

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1) Slightly libertarian - I'm fine with a few social safety nets but some of them are horribly done (minimum wage for instance)

2) I like Obama's charisma. I don't agree with him when it comes to economics, however. I don't think Guiliani is too bad either.

3) My two biggest concerns are balancing the budget and protectionism. We really need to cut back spending if we want to stave off a financial crisis. Our protectionism in areas like agriculture are really hurting the third world and hurting American consumers overall.
 
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I'm a libertarian with absolutely no respect or support for financial greed (ie personal economic drive).

I'll probably end up with the libertarian party candidate again, as it's the closest party to my own views.

Getting and keeping religion completely out of politics, pretty much the opposite of PNAC/Neocon agenda, small government, pro personal gun rights and self-defense issues.

Linux and unix mix on my desktops, servers, and laptops...both at home and work.
 

PSUstoekl

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Originally posted by: JS80

You are not an independant. You're a flaming liberal. And your view on what "our forefathers" believed in is WAY off.

Is it? I'm just talking about the separation of church and state. This is what John Adams said about it:

As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion; as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquillity, of Mussulmen; and, as the said States never entered into any war, or act of hostility against any Mahometan nation, it is declared by the parties, that no pretext arising from religious opinions, shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries.

-Article 11, Treaty of Tripoli, 1796. Passed the Senate floor with a unanimous vote.
 

PSUstoekl

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Interesting, seems like there's a lot of libertarianism on this board... that would make considering all the Ron Paul support.
 
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Originally posted by: PSUstoekl
Interesting, seems like there's a lot of libertarianism on this board... that would make considering all the Ron Paul support.

I would but I wholly disagree with his religious stances, as well as his anti-abortion stance, his support of the right to prohibit and regulate sexual activities, his specifically anti-gay stance, his pro-electoral college stance, his anti-campaign contribution reform, and so on.


Basically he'd be great if he wasn't a religious zealot that based national policy decisions upon his own private mythology and subsequent bigotry.
 

Craig234

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Originally posted by: PSUstoekl

  • First, how would you describe yourself politically? Socially liberal? Libertarian? Green Party? Please, expose the nuances of your beliefs.

I'd describe myself as someone who has a more holistic view, where politics is a tool for doing what's needed, however much or little there should be of it.

Larger questions involve how society should work, and how politics can best help that (whether libertarian, anarchistic, socialist, or whatever).

I tend to think that issues are less important than the system - the system is what determines whether you have 99% of the public as serfs whose opinions are unimportant while a few are in power, or whether you have a society filled with a strong middle class, etc.

I don't really have an ideology for politics, I think it makes sense to look at issue by issue, but doing so consistently leads me to the liberal, progressive view, like most of the world.

I think that too many Americans are 'fat and happy' insofar as being increasingly willing to blindly allow their government to try to keep them fat and happy by abusing our military might against the hordes of the world who are poor but up and coming, that we lack a good plan for the world to prosper *and* for America to continue to do as well, when too much of America's wealth is built on the backs of some slave-wage people somewhere.

We need a more sustainable economic model for the whole world to prosper, perhaps analogous to how America's working poor were empowered under FDR.

Finally, I think 'the system' too much allows narrow interests to harm the public good by donating to make money, and we need to fix that undermining of our democracy.

  • Second, who do you support the strongest going into this upcoming presidential election? Specifically, what do you find in these candidates that makes them so appealing? Is there anyone towards which you have a particular angst?

What do you mean strongest? Hillary Clinton in terms of the candidate in the best position to win. The strongest in terms of good policies IMO is Dennis Kucinich.

What I find appealing in him is his background making him understand a lot others don't, and a passionate commitment to moral liberalism, with practical, revolutionary policies.

In short, just as FDR re-invented America to become a greater nation, I think Kucinich is the kind of leader we need to do that.

BTW, Ron Paul has the same quality of a passionate vision to re-invent America, but unfortunately it's 20% great and 80% disaster.

  • Third, what political situations currently are most important to you? What do you see as being important on the horizon?

1. I think that the increasing pressure in the world as other nations rise economically and surpass the United States (China) can create political pressures that their vision of society in which modern day slave conditions and rather ruthless economies are just fine can force America to the wrong direction to compete- much less Europe, who has even better policies but is under the same pressures from both third world and American nations. We need to find a way to protect the American ideal of individual liberty in the face of these pressures.

2. Money in our political system. Money from corporations is in the system for mostly one thing: to get policies enacted that are bad for the public but in their narrow interest.

Unfortunately, ads work and the candidate who does wrong and has money tends to beat the opponent who does the opposite.

There's only so much money around for the 'good causes' - when's the last time someone gave money because a candidate was in favor of building roads for everyone?

The big money is in other areas - say, the drug companies who can profit by fewer restrictions on, say, their monopolizing drug rights against generics, or selling drugs with less scrutiny for 'phony' but marketable things; or the insurance industry, where every law limiting the right to sue is money in their pocket.

3. I think we need to update our political philosophy for modern times. Too many arguments are rehashes relevant to the revolutionary times. The internet seems like it might be the greatest aid to democracy in, well, possibly our country's history, I'd have to think about it.

  • Finally, what operating system do you use? Do you like it, or think of trying anything else?

Windows XP, it's ok, only thinking of Vista mainly for the DirectX 10, but it's a huge hassle to change OS. Mac? Linux? Why?
 
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