Poll, are the media complicit in mass shootings?

[jackstar7]

No more so than everyone. Watch twitter.

 

[DrPizza]

Why wouldn't it? If we banned everything some DC douchenozzle said was "bad" we'd have an oppressive and tyrannical government. The exact reason we have private gun ownership to begin with.

Uhhh, you might want to re-read who I was talking to. I was agreeing with you on your point.

 

[woolfe9998]

OP's article draws overly obvious conclusion and is relatively pointless. The media isn't going to not cover mass shootings. The only suggestion I see is leaving the killer's name out of it as much as possible. I recall them doing that with Sandy Hook. So perhaps they should do that, but I'm skeptical as to whether it makes much difference. Every mass killer knows the story will be publicized and knows his name will get out one way or the other.

 

[1prophet]

Would you rather have a judge impose a gag order until after the trial like they do in other countries?

 

[cbrunny]

Drawing comparisons to Canada is actually difficult, check out issues like population density, diversity, placement, etc, it's sort of like comparing North Dakota to the rest of the US, and it's really not the subject of this thread, is it?

This makes no sense. Ignore Artdeco's post, everyone. It's factually incorrect.

 

[cbrunny]

the word "complicit" is an odd choice. What do they mean by that?

 

[Artdeco]

This makes no sense. Ignore Artdeco's post, everyone. It's factually incorrect.

Actually, taking the country as a whole and not just select cities, it does, I looked it up, also, I grew up in ND, with many trips to Canada.

Less of virtually every minority than the US, and that's just starting to pick apart Canadian demographics.

Feel free to post census data and attempt to prove me wrong.

 

[Jhhnn]

I don't often agree with LegendKiller politically, but he raised a pretty good point - installing alcohol sensor interlocks undeniably would decrease the number of DWI deaths. (He's wrong about the sugar) I'm not sure why you attacked that with a strawman.

If breathalyzer interlocks were set at the legal limit the parking lot would never empty out after a Bronco game. Drunk driving is the national pastime, the hypocrisy surrounding it is astounding.

If the sale of high capacity carbines & handguns were banned it would merely limit the firepower of those with murderous intent. Personal defense? Please. If you can't stop an assailant with the first few rounds you're dead anyway. Defend freedumb against tyrannical govt? Don't make me laugh.

 

[DrPizza]

If breathalyzer interlocks were set at the legal limit the parking lot would never empty out after a Bronco game. Drunk driving is the national pastime, the hypocrisy surrounding it is astounding.

If the sale of high capacity carbines & handguns were banned it would merely limit the firepower of those with murderous intent. Personal defense? Please. If you can't stop an assailant with the first few rounds you're dead anyway. Defend freedumb against tyrannical govt? Don't make me laugh.

Hmmm. Then why do police need so many rounds? Not to mention how often we read about police shooting x amount of times, but only hitting their target a small percentage of the time. What situation would only police encounter, and never someone attempting to protect themselves? Multiple people attacking them? Seems there have been plenty of cases of that with the person protecting themselves successfully driving off multiple individuals. You're not going to do that if you're armed with a single shot muzzle loader.

 

[BrunoPuntzJones]

Malcolm Gladwell had a good article on it:

http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2015/10/19/thresholds-of-violence

Basically the more it happens the more it will happen. Kind of like a riot. One or two and not a big deal. But it starts adding up and people begin to see it as an option.

 

[Ken g6]

All I have for you is a quote:

“Excessive interest in pathological behavior was itself pathological”
― Arthur C. Clarke, 3001: The Final Odyssey

 

[Jhhnn]

Hmmm. Then why do police need so many rounds? Not to mention how often we read about police shooting x amount of times, but only hitting their target a small percentage of the time. What situation would only police encounter, and never someone attempting to protect themselves? Multiple people attacking them? Seems there have been plenty of cases of that with the person protecting themselves successfully driving off multiple individuals. You're not going to do that if you're armed with a single shot muzzle loader.

Nobody has suggested single shot muzzle loaders.

The police have up-gunned in response to the criminal element having already done so & their attitude about fire control is shaped by the fact that ammo conservation isn't much of a concern. With high magazine capacity, short trigger pull & rapid rate of fire they just keep shooting until the target falls down. Several popular police models don't even have external safeties-

http://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-owens-glock-accidents-20150508-story.html

It's a whole different scenario, anyway, given that police are tasked with apprehending criminals while the rest of us obviously are not.

Up next- advocates of high capacity semi-auto firearms for civilians whining about militarization of the police.

 

[Artdeco]

Nobody has suggested single shot muzzle loaders.

The police have up-gunned in response to the criminal element having already done so & their attitude about fire control is shaped by the fact that ammo conservation isn't much of a concern. With high magazine capacity, short trigger pull & rapid rate of fire they just keep shooting until the target falls down. Several popular police models don't even have external safeties-

http://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-owens-glock-accidents-20150508-story.html

It's a whole different scenario, anyway, given that police are tasked with apprehending criminals while the rest of us obviously are not.

Up next- advocates of high capacity semi-auto firearms for civilians whining about militarization of the police.

I don't think I've ever heard of Glocks having a "short trigger pull", actually, it's the opposite, and quite a few guns don't carry an external safety, it's something to go wrong if you need to fire the weapon. I've owned Glocks literally for decades, never had a negligent discharge, and I typically modify them to have a lighter trigger pull.

As far as militarization of the police, have you seen the kind of hardware they were getting?

group tasked by President Obama to reform the initiatives unveiled eight categories of military supplies local law enforcement will be banned from acquiring from federal agencies or with federal funds.

The list includes grenade launchers, tracked armored vehicles, armed aircraft, bayonets, and guns and ammunition of .50 caliber or higher.

There is a “substantial risk of misusing or overusing these items,” which “could significantly undermine community trust,” the group’s report reads.

Obamas admin restricted some of that already last year.

 

[Moonbeam]

What is terrorism but the act of spreading terror. How would it work if nobody knew what was going on.

What if all you ever saw on TV were random acts of love.

 

[jackstar7]

What is terrorism but the act of spreading terror. How would it work if nobody knew what was going on.

What if all you ever saw on TV were random acts of love.

Then what would compel people to buy things in order to chase the feeling of "safety"?

 

[bshole]

Toronto is considered the most multiculturally diverse city in the world. Third largest city in North America. We have about 60 murders a year. How many are gun related I don't know, but less than 60. No mass shootings by crazies I can remember in 35 years living here. The only thing close I can think of is some gang dispute a few years ago where they were shooting at each other in a park.

Montreal is not much smaller. I can remember a mass shooting there by a crazy misogynist who killed a number of women at a university in the 80s.

You can own firearms here, handguns, shotguns and rifles. You can't buy military weapons; m-16s, ak-47s that sort of thing, who needs those outside of a war zone anyways ? But people can buy firearms after a background check showing no criminal record or mental health issues.

I went to Toronto on my honeymoon. I remember thinking how much BETTER it was than Milwaukee. If Canada was smart it would start building a wall now. Within the next 50 years, Americans will start fleeing their country en masse in favor of Canada.

 

[Moonbeam]

Then what would compel people to buy things in order to chase the feeling of "safety"?

And how would Republicans win elections....