Sure that snapshot is 8% of the white population verses
21% of the Hispanic population and
24% of the Black population
BTW, I just checked census information and they state that whites make up 45% of the poor.
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: Superself
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: Superself
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: jmelnek
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: Superself
I'm not racist. I don't judge people based on skin color or stereotypes...etc.
I do find it disturbing that many people claim not to be racist but still refer to a certain race as "them" people...or even use stereotypes ot judge people.
I see a lot of posts on here regarding the poor and letting them suffer. It is quite obvious that the majority of the poor are minorities and more than likely the person who will let them suffer is not.
Yet, they will still say "I'm not racist"?
The majority of people living in poverty in the US are white.
While a larger % of blacks per capita, are living in poverty, a larger TOTAL number of whites live in poverty.
And I have NEVER said "let them suffer." I have advocated letting charity help them rather than allowing them to be entitled to taxpayer funds... just as it was prior to LBJ's failed "Great Society" program in the mid 60s.
Of course the majority of the people are white...duhhh, but you can not use that as an example...it is not fair it's like saying the majority of people living in Africa are black (see what I mean.).
No, I do not see what you mean. His implication was that people who are against welfare are racist, because "a majority of poor people are minorities." That is simply untrue. The overwhelming majority of people living in poverty in the US are white.
When you look at the percentages of each minority population that is poor, that is more practical. In addition look at the number of minorities in prison verses those that are in colleges or look at the percentage that owns their own home as another comparison.
Per capita numbers broken down by race are irrelevant for this debate. As I said, your implication was that people against welfare are racist. That is an impossibility considering the fact that the vast majority of people living in poverty are white.
At any rate, not a single libertarian minded person I know has those political beliefs because they are racist. Get a clue, OK?
It is not irrelevant because you are talking about a huge amount of minorities when you talk about the poor. Just because the white race is dominant does NOT mean you exclude Mexicans or Blacks when we talk about poor people because you are talking about a higher percentage of their population here in the US.
No, we are talking about a snap shot of the poor, and how that snap shot effects people. That snapshot is overwhelmingly white. So if a person was white racist, "punishing" all the poor people would affect FAR MORE whites than it would any other race.
Again, no one I know who is against welfare and other socialist programs has those beliefs because of racism. Not a one.
Nice try, though. But if you really believe that, maybe you should get a clue.
Originally posted by: Superself
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: Superself
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: Superself
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: jmelnek
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: Superself
I'm not racist. I don't judge people based on skin color or stereotypes...etc.
I do find it disturbing that many people claim not to be racist but still refer to a certain race as "them" people...or even use stereotypes ot judge people.
I see a lot of posts on here regarding the poor and letting them suffer. It is quite obvious that the majority of the poor are minorities and more than likely the person who will let them suffer is not.
Yet, they will still say "I'm not racist"?
The majority of people living in poverty in the US are white.
While a larger % of blacks per capita, are living in poverty, a larger TOTAL number of whites live in poverty.
And I have NEVER said "let them suffer." I have advocated letting charity help them rather than allowing them to be entitled to taxpayer funds... just as it was prior to LBJ's failed "Great Society" program in the mid 60s.
Of course the majority of the people are white...duhhh, but you can not use that as an example...it is not fair it's like saying the majority of people living in Africa are black (see what I mean.).
No, I do not see what you mean. His implication was that people who are against welfare are racist, because "a majority of poor people are minorities." That is simply untrue. The overwhelming majority of people living in poverty in the US are white.
When you look at the percentages of each minority population that is poor, that is more practical. In addition look at the number of minorities in prison verses those that are in colleges or look at the percentage that owns their own home as another comparison.
Per capita numbers broken down by race are irrelevant for this debate. As I said, your implication was that people against welfare are racist. That is an impossibility considering the fact that the vast majority of people living in poverty are white.
At any rate, not a single libertarian minded person I know has those political beliefs because they are racist. Get a clue, OK?
It is not irrelevant because you are talking about a huge amount of minorities when you talk about the poor. Just because the white race is dominant does NOT mean you exclude Mexicans or Blacks when we talk about poor people because you are talking about a higher percentage of their population here in the US.
No, we are talking about a snap shot of the poor, and how that snap shot effects people. That snapshot is overwhelmingly white. So if a person was white racist, "punishing" all the poor people would affect FAR MORE whites than it would any other race.
Again, no one I know who is against welfare and other socialist programs has those beliefs because of racism. Not a one.
Nice try, though. But if you really believe that, maybe you should get a clue.
Sure that snapshot is 8% of the white population verses
21% of the Hispanic population and
24% of the Black population
BTW, I just checked census information and they state that whites make up 45% of the poor.
Originally posted by: Superself
Sure that snapshot is 8% of the white population verses
21% of the Hispanic population and
24% of the Black population
BTW, I just checked census information and they state that whites make up 45% of the poor.
Originally posted by: ElFenix
Originally posted by: Superself
Sure that snapshot is 8% of the white population verses
21% of the Hispanic population and
24% of the Black population
BTW, I just checked census information and they state that whites make up 45% of the poor.
looks like 68% to me, but who is counting.
and you guys really need to quit the nested quote fight
Originally posted by: ElFenix
Originally posted by: Superself
Sure that snapshot is 8% of the white population verses
21% of the Hispanic population and
24% of the Black population
BTW, I just checked census information and they state that whites make up 45% of the poor.
looks like 68% to me, but who is counting.
and you guys really need to quit the nested quote fight
Originally posted by: Superself
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: jmelnek
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: Superself
I'm not racist. I don't judge people based on skin color or stereotypes...etc.
I do find it disturbing that many people claim not to be racist but still refer to a certain race as "them" people...or even use stereotypes ot judge people.
I see a lot of posts on here regarding the poor and letting them suffer. It is quite obvious that the majority of the poor are minorities and more than likely the person who will let them suffer is not.
Yet, they will still say "I'm not racist"?
The majority of people living in poverty in the US are white.
While a larger % of blacks per capita, are living in poverty, a larger TOTAL number of whites live in poverty.
And I have NEVER said "let them suffer." I have advocated letting charity help them rather than allowing them to be entitled to taxpayer funds... just as it was prior to LBJ's failed "Great Society" program in the mid 60s.
Of course the majority of the people are white...duhhh, but you can not use that as an example...it is not fair it's like saying the majority of people living in Africa are black (see what I mean.).
No, I do not see what you mean. His implication was that people who are against welfare are racist, because "a majority of poor people are minorities." That is simply untrue. The overwhelming majority of people living in poverty in the US are white.
When you look at the percentages of each minority population that is poor, that is more practical. In addition look at the number of minorities in prison verses those that are in colleges or look at the percentage that owns their own home as another comparison.
Originally posted by: Nocturnal
Wow I don't believe how many coward racists we have here.
Originally posted by: Superself\
68%?!! So you are saying that 32% represents the remaining minorities?
That doesn't sound right.
I read here:
Census Doc
Page 11 second column....states 45% clearly.
Originally posted by: shenaniganz
I'm an anti-dentite.
Originally posted by: Nocturnal
Wow I don't believe how many coward racists we have here.
Originally posted by: TommyVercetti
Originally posted by: chrisms
People would call me racist. I don't understand people, lets use Mexicans as an example because I've experienced this recently, who are extremely proud of their culture. They listen to tons of latino rap music, talk constantly about how things are done "in Mexico," etc.
I think Jerry Springer said it best: 'How can you be proud of something you had no control over?' He used this at the end of a show about members of the KKK.
I see how you'd be proud of what your ancestors have done, such as great grandparents, but as a European-American I am not proud of what one of my people, Leonardo Da Vinci, did. I regard him as a great man, and I respect him, but the only way I am proud of him is in admiring what humans are capable of. I feel the same way about Ghengis Khan, a non-European.
Let me understand this, most people are American simply because they were born here. Had they been born in South Africa, they would have been South African. Since you can't be proud of something you had no control over, you shouldn't be proud to be American? I had no control over where i was born.
Rather than kill everyone, we should all fsck like dogs in heat and make sure it's with someone of a different race. THAT will end racism because different races will no longer exist.
Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Originally posted by: Klixxer
No! Some members are to dense to get that though.
This from a guy that claims people were equal under apartheid, claims that people different than him are not humans, and that it's ok to discriminate by ethnicity.