Poll: Arizona Cardinals vs Pittsburgh Steelers

[Muse]

Originally posted by: Eomer of Aldburg
No way! wow cards, you blew it!

They didn't blow it in the 2nd half, it was the 1st half and I was rooting for the Cards because I know Kurt will be haunted by the last play of the first half. That play tore my heart out. I was just thinking whatever you do Kurt, get some points out of this and the result was the worst conceivable outcome (short of his being injured).

 

[Muse]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
The Cards grasp defeat from the jaws of victory. They suck as did this game.

Well, their D, which came up so big, so stout when the chips were down earlier in the game didn't do that in the Steeler's last drive, so yeah, I can see that, but the game didn't suck, the Cards didn't suck. I watched in timeshift mode, fast forwarding through commercials when I wanted to (the only way to fly, if you can...). Oh, in HD on my BIG SCREEN (projection!). Anyway, I was bummed the Cards didn't win.

 

[Muse]

Originally posted by: FelixDeKat

Originally posted by: Perknose
I didn't think this was going to be a good game, but it sure as hell was.

No, I expected a good game.

 

[murphy55d]

Originally posted by: JD50

Originally posted by: jman19

Originally posted by: dahunan

Originally posted by: bunnyfubbles

Originally posted by: Onita

Originally posted by: bunnyfubbles

Originally posted by: bamacre

Originally posted by: fustercluck
Officiating was fine throughout the game, there were many tough calls and they didn't waste too much time on any of them I and felt got pretty much all of them right.

Are you kidding me? They stunk.

only if you are a close minded Cards fan and/or Steelers hater

2 plays reversed, and not even a review at the end. Sounds great.

two close calls that could have gone either way (I'm not convinced by the shots I saw that Ben's knee was down on the first overturn), and the last play at the end was a fumble and has been confirmed to be one...

cry more

You just showed your bias.. lol.. both announcers were thoroughly convinced as was Ben..

This game was a big piece of shit ... how many punches did the steelers players randomly throw..

Was that really roughing the passer.. only if the passer is 60+ years old.. how about running into the holder... he barely hit that guy and looked like he put his hands on him to keep his knees from hitting him in the face

What about that POS #92 ... ROID RAGE ... they should have escorted that clown off the field

many many more hold hold hold hold.. hmmm why none called on the squeelers?

That call is pretty much automatic - there is no doubt that should have been called...

Why? It was obviously unintentional, the guy was stumbling forward, there's nothing that he could've done to stop it besides putting his hands up to soften the blow, which is exactly what he did. Pussifying football even more FTL.

It doesn't matter if its unintentional. If you accidentally grab a facemask it's still 15 yards. If you accidentally run into the kicker its 15 yards.

The guy isn't even a blocker... all he does is hold the kick. He ran right through him and kept on going to the sidelines. It was a dumb play by a guy who knows better.

 

[Muse]

Originally posted by: Chaotic42

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: her209
Why is there not a review???

Have you not seen the officiating? The refs would grab the ball from warners hands and hand it to the steelers if they weren't on TV.

Yeah, there were some calls I certainly disagreed with. I guess that's why I'm not an official. Congrats Steelers fans.

That roughing the passer call was bogus as hell. I was glad to hear Madden and Michaels opine on that although they could have been more emphatic. I was so pissed I had to stop watching. How in the hell can you not hit the quarterback when he throws the ball when you are two feet from him coming straight at him full speed? :roll: Refs are idiots!

 

[Muse]

Originally posted by: Perknose

Originally posted by: Nizology

Originally posted by: BrokenVisage
Warner still gets into the Hall with this performance. Congrats Pitt.

:thumbsdown: No he doesn't.

Yes, he does.

My money's on Warner for the Hall.

 

[Muse]

Originally posted by: actuarial
That was a ridiculous game. Warner, although mighty in the 4th, blew the game in the second. That was at LEAST a 10 point swing, more than likely 14 point.

Cards defense put up so many goal line stands, and just couldn't come up with one more.

Decent summation there.

 

[Muse]

Originally posted by: indamixx99
Lol.. this did not top last year's Superbowl

Last year's was great too, maybe better. I haven't rewatched it yet, but I have it saved in HD and will.

 

[Muse]

Originally posted by: Shlong

Originally posted by: Nizology

Originally posted by: Perknose

Originally posted by: Nizology

Originally posted by: BrokenVisage
Warner still gets into the Hall with this performance. Congrats Pitt.

:thumbsdown: No he doesn't.

Yes, he does.

Nah, sorry. Where was he the last five years? If he makes it, it'll be on his last chance getting in and only because the sports writers feel sorry for him. Always how it works.

2 Time League MVP
1 Time Super Bowl MVP
4 Time Pro Bowler
1st all time in Passing Yards per Game Average in Regular Season. 1st all time in Passing Yard per Game Average in Post Season.
2nd all time Career Passing Completion % (65.4%)
4th all time in Career QB Rating (above Tom Brady and Joe Montana)
Highest percentage of 300+ yard games (throws for at least 300 yards in 45% of his games, next highest was Dan Fouts at 28%).

I would say that's Hall of Fame worthy, people with a lot less credentials are in the HOF (Joe Namath).

Kurt's a lock.

 

[Muse]

Originally posted by: chuckywang
I think I hate the Steelers now:

http://i82.photobucket.com/alb...lla/Gifs/whbja8jpg.gif

Agreed. John Madden said he should have been thrown out of the game on the spot and I totally agreed.

 

[vi edit]

I'm still completely confused as to why they went for that pass play with 30 seconds left in the 1st half. I figured they go for a run, try to punch it in, if it failed have Kurt spike it, bring in the field goal unit, get your 3 points, walk into halftime tied, and then get the ball to start the next half.

That decision is probably going to stick with the coaches for quite some time.

And I'm still very frustrated at what felt like a miserable officiating bias.

 

[jman19]

Originally posted by: JD50

Originally posted by: jman19

Originally posted by: dahunan

Originally posted by: bunnyfubbles

Originally posted by: Onita

Originally posted by: bunnyfubbles

Originally posted by: bamacre

Originally posted by: fustercluck
Officiating was fine throughout the game, there were many tough calls and they didn't waste too much time on any of them I and felt got pretty much all of them right.

Are you kidding me? They stunk.

only if you are a close minded Cards fan and/or Steelers hater

2 plays reversed, and not even a review at the end. Sounds great.

two close calls that could have gone either way (I'm not convinced by the shots I saw that Ben's knee was down on the first overturn), and the last play at the end was a fumble and has been confirmed to be one...

cry more

You just showed your bias.. lol.. both announcers were thoroughly convinced as was Ben..

This game was a big piece of shit ... how many punches did the steelers players randomly throw..

Was that really roughing the passer.. only if the passer is 60+ years old.. how about running into the holder... he barely hit that guy and looked like he put his hands on him to keep his knees from hitting him in the face

What about that POS #92 ... ROID RAGE ... they should have escorted that clown off the field

many many more hold hold hold hold.. hmmm why none called on the squeelers?

That call is pretty much automatic - there is no doubt that should have been called...

Why? It was obviously unintentional, the guy was stumbling forward, there's nothing that he could've done to stop it besides putting his hands up to soften the blow, which is exactly what he did. Pussifying football even more FTL.

Maybe because it's a rule?

 

[Oyeve]

Transformers 2......Sweet.
G.I. Joe..............huh? Looks sorta-maybe-kinda like it would be cool.

 

[2Xtreme21]

Originally posted by: JD50

Originally posted by: jman19

Originally posted by: dahunan

Originally posted by: bunnyfubbles

Originally posted by: Onita

Originally posted by: bunnyfubbles

Originally posted by: bamacre

Originally posted by: fustercluck
Officiating was fine throughout the game, there were many tough calls and they didn't waste too much time on any of them I and felt got pretty much all of them right.

Are you kidding me? They stunk.

only if you are a close minded Cards fan and/or Steelers hater

2 plays reversed, and not even a review at the end. Sounds great.

two close calls that could have gone either way (I'm not convinced by the shots I saw that Ben's knee was down on the first overturn), and the last play at the end was a fumble and has been confirmed to be one...

cry more

You just showed your bias.. lol.. both announcers were thoroughly convinced as was Ben..

This game was a big piece of shit ... how many punches did the steelers players randomly throw..

Was that really roughing the passer.. only if the passer is 60+ years old.. how about running into the holder... he barely hit that guy and looked like he put his hands on him to keep his knees from hitting him in the face

What about that POS #92 ... ROID RAGE ... they should have escorted that clown off the field

many many more hold hold hold hold.. hmmm why none called on the squeelers?

That call is pretty much automatic - there is no doubt that should have been called...

Why? It was obviously unintentional, the guy was stumbling forward, there's nothing that he could've done to stop it besides putting his hands up to soften the blow, which is exactly what he did. Pussifying football even more FTL.

Flashback:

2002-2003 AFC Divisional Playoff: Steelers vs. Titans @ Heinz Field.

31-31 OT. Tenn gets ball, marches down field, Steelers stop them inside their 20. Joe Nedney lines up for a field goal, gets the snap, *MISSES* the 31 yarder to win. Crowd goes NUTS. After dropping his head in frustration, and seeing Pit's cornerback Dewayne Washington prostrate on the ground in front of him (from lunging over the pile to try to block the kick), he drops to the ground. Flag goes up, Washington gets a running-into-the-kicker penalty.

Replay confirms Washington's *pinky finger* was on top of Nedney's shoe. 5 yards closer, lines up, drills it-- Tenn. goes on to the championship game.

Point is, what goes around, comes around. More often than not they're bullshit calls, but they're completely black & white. You can't argue because every team gets screwed in some way with "unintentional pussified" calls.

And it's not even like this penalty did anything but move the kick closer. They got a first down and then were stopped again.

 

[Muse]

Originally posted by: jman19

Originally posted by: JD50

Originally posted by: jman19

Originally posted by: dahunan

Originally posted by: bunnyfubbles

Originally posted by: Onita

Originally posted by: bunnyfubbles

Originally posted by: bamacre

Originally posted by: fustercluck
Officiating was fine throughout the game, there were many tough calls and they didn't waste too much time on any of them I and felt got pretty much all of them right.

Are you kidding me? They stunk.

only if you are a close minded Cards fan and/or Steelers hater

2 plays reversed, and not even a review at the end. Sounds great.

two close calls that could have gone either way (I'm not convinced by the shots I saw that Ben's knee was down on the first overturn), and the last play at the end was a fumble and has been confirmed to be one...

cry more

You just showed your bias.. lol.. both announcers were thoroughly convinced as was Ben..

This game was a big piece of shit ... how many punches did the steelers players randomly throw..

Was that really roughing the passer.. only if the passer is 60+ years old.. how about running into the holder... he barely hit that guy and looked like he put his hands on him to keep his knees from hitting him in the face

What about that POS #92 ... ROID RAGE ... they should have escorted that clown off the field

many many more hold hold hold hold.. hmmm why none called on the squeelers?

That call is pretty much automatic - there is no doubt that should have been called...

Why? It was obviously unintentional, the guy was stumbling forward, there's nothing that he could've done to stop it besides putting his hands up to soften the blow, which is exactly what he did. Pussifying football even more FTL.

Maybe because it's a rule?

I have not read the rule, but I'm sure (any intelligent human being would understand) that a penalty should only be called if the player could have prevented the incident. In this case I don't believe that was possible. This is not a cartoon, this is real life. It might be argued that the player didn't have to push Ben R as contact was made. The alternative would be to hug him. :roll: I think it was a ridiculous call.

 

[murphy55d]

think what you will, it was the correct one.

 

[bignateyk]

Gotta love bitter fans complaining about the refs after they lose a game :laugh:

It's like clockwork. A team loses, and most of the fans start bitching about the refs. I respect fans that can admit that they lost to a better team though, or at least that they lost to a team who played a better game than them.

You really think arizona deserved to win that game? They didn't play better than pittsburgh. Both teams took stupid penalties, and there were bad calls/non-calls on both sides of the ball. It's how it always is. Dumbass fans just refuse to see shitty calls going the other way though.

 

[jman19]

Originally posted by: Muse

Originally posted by: jman19

Originally posted by: JD50

Originally posted by: jman19

Originally posted by: dahunan

Originally posted by: bunnyfubbles

Originally posted by: Onita

Originally posted by: bunnyfubbles

Originally posted by: bamacre

Originally posted by: fustercluck
Officiating was fine throughout the game, there were many tough calls and they didn't waste too much time on any of them I and felt got pretty much all of them right.

Are you kidding me? They stunk.

only if you are a close minded Cards fan and/or Steelers hater

2 plays reversed, and not even a review at the end. Sounds great.

two close calls that could have gone either way (I'm not convinced by the shots I saw that Ben's knee was down on the first overturn), and the last play at the end was a fumble and has been confirmed to be one...

cry more

You just showed your bias.. lol.. both announcers were thoroughly convinced as was Ben..

This game was a big piece of shit ... how many punches did the steelers players randomly throw..

Was that really roughing the passer.. only if the passer is 60+ years old.. how about running into the holder... he barely hit that guy and looked like he put his hands on him to keep his knees from hitting him in the face

What about that POS #92 ... ROID RAGE ... they should have escorted that clown off the field

many many more hold hold hold hold.. hmmm why none called on the squeelers?

That call is pretty much automatic - there is no doubt that should have been called...

Why? It was obviously unintentional, the guy was stumbling forward, there's nothing that he could've done to stop it besides putting his hands up to soften the blow, which is exactly what he did. Pussifying football even more FTL.

Maybe because it's a rule?

I have not read the rule, but I'm sure (any intelligent human being would understand) that a penalty should only be called if the player could have prevented the incident. In this case I don't believe that was possible. This is not a cartoon, this is real life. It might be argued that the player didn't have to push Ben R as contact was made. The alternative would be to hug him. :roll: I think it was a ridiculous call.

You don't know the rules, but you're crying about them? Uh, ok

It didn't really matter much anyway. Are you going to cry about the blown call on the first Steelers drive?

 

[Muse]

Originally posted by: jman19

Originally posted by: Muse

Originally posted by: jman19

Originally posted by: JD50

Originally posted by: jman19

Originally posted by: dahunan

Originally posted by: bunnyfubbles

Originally posted by: Onita

Originally posted by: bunnyfubbles

Originally posted by: bamacre

Originally posted by: fustercluck
Officiating was fine throughout the game, there were many tough calls and they didn't waste too much time on any of them I and felt got pretty much all of them right.

Are you kidding me? They stunk.

only if you are a close minded Cards fan and/or Steelers hater

2 plays reversed, and not even a review at the end. Sounds great.

two close calls that could have gone either way (I'm not convinced by the shots I saw that Ben's knee was down on the first overturn), and the last play at the end was a fumble and has been confirmed to be one...

cry more

You just showed your bias.. lol.. both announcers were thoroughly convinced as was Ben..

This game was a big piece of shit ... how many punches did the steelers players randomly throw..

Was that really roughing the passer.. only if the passer is 60+ years old.. how about running into the holder... he barely hit that guy and looked like he put his hands on him to keep his knees from hitting him in the face

What about that POS #92 ... ROID RAGE ... they should have escorted that clown off the field

many many more hold hold hold hold.. hmmm why none called on the squeelers?

That call is pretty much automatic - there is no doubt that should have been called...

Why? It was obviously unintentional, the guy was stumbling forward, there's nothing that he could've done to stop it besides putting his hands up to soften the blow, which is exactly what he did. Pussifying football even more FTL.

Maybe because it's a rule?

I have not read the rule, but I'm sure (any intelligent human being would understand) that a penalty should only be called if the player could have prevented the incident. In this case I don't believe that was possible. This is not a cartoon, this is real life. It might be argued that the player didn't have to push Ben R as contact was made. The alternative would be to hug him. :roll: I think it was a ridiculous call.

You don't know the rules, but you're crying about them? Uh, ok

It didn't really matter much anyway. Are you going to cry about the blown call on the first Steelers drive?

Hey bozo, I'm not crying about anything. I just stated the obvious, that the rule has to be such and such. I bet you haven't read the rule yourself.

 

[jman19]

Originally posted by: Muse

Originally posted by: jman19

Originally posted by: Muse

Originally posted by: jman19

Originally posted by: JD50

Originally posted by: jman19

Originally posted by: dahunan

Originally posted by: bunnyfubbles

Originally posted by: Onita

Originally posted by: bunnyfubbles

Originally posted by: bamacre

Originally posted by: fustercluck
Officiating was fine throughout the game, there were many tough calls and they didn't waste too much time on any of them I and felt got pretty much all of them right.

Are you kidding me? They stunk.

only if you are a close minded Cards fan and/or Steelers hater

2 plays reversed, and not even a review at the end. Sounds great.

two close calls that could have gone either way (I'm not convinced by the shots I saw that Ben's knee was down on the first overturn), and the last play at the end was a fumble and has been confirmed to be one...

cry more

You just showed your bias.. lol.. both announcers were thoroughly convinced as was Ben..

This game was a big piece of shit ... how many punches did the steelers players randomly throw..

Was that really roughing the passer.. only if the passer is 60+ years old.. how about running into the holder... he barely hit that guy and looked like he put his hands on him to keep his knees from hitting him in the face

What about that POS #92 ... ROID RAGE ... they should have escorted that clown off the field

many many more hold hold hold hold.. hmmm why none called on the squeelers?

That call is pretty much automatic - there is no doubt that should have been called...

Why? It was obviously unintentional, the guy was stumbling forward, there's nothing that he could've done to stop it besides putting his hands up to soften the blow, which is exactly what he did. Pussifying football even more FTL.

Maybe because it's a rule?

I have not read the rule, but I'm sure (any intelligent human being would understand) that a penalty should only be called if the player could have prevented the incident. In this case I don't believe that was possible. This is not a cartoon, this is real life. It might be argued that the player didn't have to push Ben R as contact was made. The alternative would be to hug him. :roll: I think it was a ridiculous call.

You don't know the rules, but you're crying about them? Uh, ok

It didn't really matter much anyway. Are you going to cry about the blown call on the first Steelers drive?

Hey bozo, I'm not crying about anything. I just stated the obvious, that the rule has to be such and such. I bet you haven't read the rule yourself.

You're arguing about rules that you don't know and I'm the bozo? Ok, sure thing pal.

 

[JD50]

Originally posted by: jman19


You're arguing about rules that you don't know and I'm the bozo? Ok, sure thing pal.

Calm down, it's just a discussion. No one's criticizing your beloved stoolers, we're just talking about a silly penalty. I don't care if the rule says it's a penalty or not, it's my opinion that it's a stupid penalty. The guy got tripped up and was stumbling forward, he wasn't rushing head long into the holder, that should not be a penalty.

 

[CrankyMcStank]

Originally posted by: chuckywang

Originally posted by: CrankyMcStank

Originally posted by: 91TTZ

Originally posted by: chuckywang
I think I hate the Steelers now:

http://i82.photobucket.com/alb...lla/Gifs/whbja8jpg.gif

He should have been ejected from the game for that. He's acting like a primitive animal.

Oh please. The whistle had not blown and as a football player you're taught to play until the whistle. All he did was hold him down and then shove him back down when he got up....all while the play was still ongoing in the background. It's not like he punched or kicked him...it was all well within the rules.

Football is a man's sport...pussies need not apply. Same goes for football fans...if you're a pussy (which this post leads me to believe) then you need to watch figure skating or some shit like that.

And the officials who threw the flags on that are the ones who need to be ejected...from the profession of refereeing football games.

LOL, I don't get why you're angry at me ... and randomly hating on figure skating as well. It's pretty obvious he did punch him in the shoulder, and there is no place for that in the game of football. Hopefully writing this post calms you down after having your machismo moment. Now that you're calm, take a look at the video again.

I believe I responded to 91TTZ. But good job keeping up there, chief.

And my comments still stand...don't need to watch the video again. Anyone who thinks those were punches needs to have their balls surgically removed.

 

[Finalnight]

Did anyone post this bonus etrade commercial:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...8A889FC5F80DB1&index=2

 

[jman19]

Originally posted by: JD50

Originally posted by: jman19


You're arguing about rules that you don't know and I'm the bozo? Ok, sure thing pal.

Calm down, it's just a discussion. No one's criticizing your beloved stoolers, we're just talking about a silly penalty. I don't care if the rule says it's a penalty or not, it's my opinion that it's a stupid penalty. The guy got tripped up and was stumbling forward, he wasn't rushing head long into the holder, that should not be a penalty.

I'm not even a Steelers fan, and I'm quite calm - I'm not the one who started calling people names.

The job of the refs is to call the rules as stated, so I don't really see what the problem is. Not sure why you would think it is ok to run in to the holder - accident or not you're responsible for your actions on the field, just like any penalty.

 

[bunnyfubbles]

Originally posted by: JD50

Originally posted by: jman19


You're arguing about rules that you don't know and I'm the bozo? Ok, sure thing pal.

Calm down, it's just a discussion. No one's criticizing your beloved stoolers, we're just talking about a silly penalty. I don't care if the rule says it's a penalty or not, it's my opinion that it's a stupid penalty. The guy got tripped up and was stumbling forward, he wasn't rushing head long into the holder, that should not be a penalty.

Running into the holder (without being blocked or thrown into him, which he clearly wasn't) is like crashing into an parked car in an empty parking lot with a ticketing officer watching. It doesn't matter if you don't leave any damage, you're getting a ticket for reckless driving.

Originally posted by: vi edit
I'm still completely confused as to why they went for that pass play with 30 seconds left in the 1st half. I figured they go for a run, try to punch it in, if it failed have Kurt spike it, bring in the field goal unit, get your 3 points, walk into halftime tied, and then get the ball to start the next half.

That decision is probably going to stick with the coaches for quite some time.

Except they didn't have 30 seconds, they had 18. If you run it there and don't get in, maybe you get a spike off, but then you only have time for one more play and that would mean a field goal. With 18 seconds you can throw twice into the endzone and still have time for a field goal if you fail both throws.

The Steelers have one of the league's best rushing defenses and have stopped some of the league's best running offenses on goal line and 4th and short type scenarios several times during the season, and the Cardinals had the league's worst rushing attack and they certainly didn't really show anything throughout this entire game in that regard.

Their decision was smart as they had been having success through the air and momentum was on their side at the time. Warner simple just got tricked by one of the NFL's greatest defenses on a brilliant play called by one of the NFL's greatest defensive coordinators.