Poll: Atheist or Agnostic?

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VIAN

Diamond Member
Aug 22, 2003
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I am agnostic:

One who believes that it is impossible to know whether there is a God.
One who is skeptical about the existence of God but does not profess true atheism.
 

JackBurton

Lifer
Jul 18, 2000
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Originally posted by: dnuggett
Originally posted by: JackBurton
Originally posted by: dnuggett
Neither..... JackBurton is an idiot.
Corrected that for you.

Thanks. I fixed it for you too!
Dude, that doesn't even make any sense. If that is what you originally meant to say, why didn't you just edit your original post? What, after 3800+ posts you haven't figured out how to use the edit button? I'm the idiot though, right?

And listen man, I was just trying to help you out by correcting your post for you, and then you go and call me an idiot. What kind of gratitude is that?
 

dnuggett

Diamond Member
Sep 13, 2003
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Originally posted by: JackBurton
Originally posted by: dnuggett
Originally posted by: JackBurton
Originally posted by: dnuggett
Neither..... JackBurton is an idiot.
Corrected that for you.

Thanks. I fixed it for you too!
Dude, that doesn't even make any sense. If that is what you originally meant to say, why didn't you just edit your original post? What, after 3800+ posts you haven't figured out how to use the edit button? I'm the idiot though, right?

And listen man, I was just trying to help you out by correcting your post for you, and then you go and call me an idiot. What kind of gratitude is that?


I didn't use the edit button to make that post? Ding Ding Ding, YES you are the idiot! After 5000 posts you haven't figured out how this sh!t works?

Quit cryin about gratitude, lift your skirt up, grab your grapes and move on.
 

JackBurton

Lifer
Jul 18, 2000
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Originally posted by: dnuggett
I didn't use the edit button to make that post? Ding Ding Ding, YES you are the idiot! After 5000 posts you haven't figured out how this sh!t works?

Quit cryin about gratitude, lift your skirt up, grab your grapes and move on.
Apparently you were the only one who thought I was being serious. You're not too bright of a guy.



 

dnuggett

Diamond Member
Sep 13, 2003
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Originally posted by: JackBurton
Originally posted by: dnuggett
I didn't use the edit button to make that post? Ding Ding Ding, YES you are the idiot! After 5000 posts you haven't figured out how this sh!t works?

Quit cryin about gratitude, lift your skirt up, grab your grapes and move on.
Apparently you were the only one who thought I was being serious. You're not too bright of a guy.

How bright of a person does it takes to realize when an edit button is used? Wait.. you better not answer that, you couldn't figure it out. Like I said grab your grapes and move on.
 

JackBurton

Lifer
Jul 18, 2000
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Originally posted by: dnuggett
Originally posted by: JackBurton
Originally posted by: dnuggett
I didn't use the edit button to make that post? Ding Ding Ding, YES you are the idiot! After 5000 posts you haven't figured out how this sh!t works?

Quit cryin about gratitude, lift your skirt up, grab your grapes and move on.
Apparently you were the only one who thought I was being serious. You're not too bright of a guy.

How bright of a person does it takes to realize when an edit button is used? Wait.. you better not answer that, you couldn't figure it out. Like I said grab your grapes and move on.
I swear man, you are a total moron. I was messing with you! I knew you were just mimicking what I did, but I wasn't about to go back and forth with you quoting, "You're and idiot. No, you're an idiot. No, YOU'RE an idiot." God damn dude, get a clue.

Now are you going to partake in this discussion by give a reason for your initial comment, or are you going to let people just assume you're a dumbass. Now think really carefully before you post, because I have a feeling you are just going to remove all doubt and confirm everyone's suspicions that you are in fact a dumbass.
 

dnuggett

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Sep 13, 2003
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Originally posted by: JackBurton
Originally posted by: dnuggett
Originally posted by: JackBurton
Originally posted by: dnuggett
I didn't use the edit button to make that post? Ding Ding Ding, YES you are the idiot! After 5000 posts you haven't figured out how this sh!t works?

Quit cryin about gratitude, lift your skirt up, grab your grapes and move on.
Apparently you were the only one who thought I was being serious. You're not too bright of a guy.

How bright of a person does it takes to realize when an edit button is used? Wait.. you better not answer that, you couldn't figure it out. Like I said grab your grapes and move on.
I swear man, you are a total moron. I was messing with you! I knew you were just mimicking what I did, but I wasn't about to go back and forth with you quoting, "You're and idiot. No, you're an idiot. No, YOU'RE an idiot." God damn dude, get a clue.

Now are you going to partake in this discussion by give a reason for your initial comment, or are you going to let people just assume you're a dumbass. Now think really carefully before you post, because I have a feeling you are just going to remove all doubt and confirm everyone's suspicions that you are in fact a dumbass.


It's kind of funny that you say you aren't about to go back and forth with who is an idiot yet in both your replies you say "you're not too bright of a guy" and "total moron." It's a good thing you don't believe in Jesus cause even he couldn't help your clueless ass.

I just finished reading your ramblings in this thread... if you want to surmise I'm a dumbass after posting the trash you posted.... lol more power to you. And no I'm not going back and forth with you about the creator's existence. You have your moronic ideas and they aren't going to change, that's obvious. I have better things to do then argue back and forth with a dipsh!t.

Post what you like about my intelligence you've proven how smart you are.

dnuggett /out

 

JackBurton

Lifer
Jul 18, 2000
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Originally posted by: dnuggett
Originally posted by: JackBurton
Originally posted by: dnuggett
Originally posted by: JackBurton
Originally posted by: dnuggett
I didn't use the edit button to make that post? Ding Ding Ding, YES you are the idiot! After 5000 posts you haven't figured out how this sh!t works?

Quit cryin about gratitude, lift your skirt up, grab your grapes and move on.
Apparently you were the only one who thought I was being serious. You're not too bright of a guy.

How bright of a person does it takes to realize when an edit button is used? Wait.. you better not answer that, you couldn't figure it out. Like I said grab your grapes and move on.
I swear man, you are a total moron. I was messing with you! I knew you were just mimicking what I did, but I wasn't about to go back and forth with you quoting, "You're and idiot. No, you're an idiot. No, YOU'RE an idiot." God damn dude, get a clue.

Now are you going to partake in this discussion by give a reason for your initial comment, or are you going to let people just assume you're a dumbass. Now think really carefully before you post, because I have a feeling you are just going to remove all doubt and confirm everyone's suspicions that you are in fact a dumbass.


It's kind of funny that you say you aren't about to go back and forth with who is an idiot yet in both your replies you say "you're not too bright of a guy" and "total moron." It's a good thing you don't believe in Jesus cause even he couldn't help your clueless ass.
And I see your reading comprehension isn't that sharp either. Here is what I said:
...but I wasn't about to go back and forth with you quoting.
Notice the bold word. It's the quoting game you were refering to that I couldn't "figure out," right? Again, get a clue.
And no I'm not going back and forth with you about the creator's existence.
Now THAT is a smart move. It's hard to debate with no evidence.
Post what you like about my intelligence you've proven how smart you are.
I know.
 

mattjbak

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Jun 3, 2005
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Originally posted by: her209
If the universe cannot be created without God, then who created God? Similarly, if God was all knowing, then does he know what he's going to do before he does it?



I even know what I'm going to do before I do it, what a dumb statement...
 

Severian

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This argument can always be distilled down to its least common denominators, namely, believers believe because they want to, and disbelievers do not. No amount of exchange will change anyone's mind, because it induces a reflexive circling of the intellectual wagons. Everyone must come to his own opinion on the topic. Where we go wrong, then, is the desire for our opinion to metastasize and be reflected back at us. If everyone were content to just live and let live on this subject, the world would be a far better place.
 

Journer

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Jun 30, 2005
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FSB and clock rate are my gods



i'm Agnostic.

ag·nos·tic ( P ) Pronunciation Key (g-nstk)
n.

One who believes that it is impossible to know whether there is a God.
One who is skeptical about the existence of God but does not profess true atheism.
One who is doubtful or noncommittal about something.
 

Journer

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Jun 30, 2005
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i think it is pointless to debate the existance of a god or who's religeon is right. When it all comes down to it...it is what YOU believe. I know some people who believe that cars with big f'n spoilers and fart pipes are the coolest thing in the world. I however...find them quite homosexual and they piss me off. According to most popular religeos believes 'god' is outside of the universe therefore he does not have to abide by the universes' rules..such as physics...therefore you cannot prove 'god' with logic or some form of science from our universe....of course this conversation goes much deepere and more in depth..but like i said...wtf is the point in arguing it if it all boils down to what each individual beleives? some people think AMD is better than Intel...you can show benchmarks, lifespans, etc. but in the end...each company is still in business..therefore some people think one is better than the other
 

piddlefoot

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May 11, 2005
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lts not piontless at all, debate and different views are what have given us such a diverse range of theories, so its not always a waste, and besides its entertaining you isnt it ?
As for comparisons, the fundamental difference here is peoples beliefs are based not on any known scientific fact, unlike the AMD v Intel argument where science can be deployed to tell us the truth of which is better , and one is better one model then like anything the other is better on a model , but we can test all of that, and car spiolers , we can wind test them before even making them , test there downforce , yet we believe something we can never test , never find , never proove , the idea that ''god is outside the known universe is flaud, maths straight up tells us thats wrong, cant proove it but can deduct that its physicly so improbable , rather that on the other side of our universe is another, and another , and another , and another , picture it similar to a bubble bath, each bubble being a UNIVERSE , but hey thats maths, cant be prooven no , not by a long shot , but maths has prooven itself on earth and in our solar system with our probes and space craft, and atomic machines, maths is a closer bet at this stage based on what we know, than a godly being somehow just being there, but l cant or knowbody can proove it , its just a theory based on an EXTREEME small amount of evidence, but evidence makes it a theory , so , the one other big difference is in debating Evolution and Creation people s brains become quite active and over time alot of creationists do indeed start to ask themselves fundamentle questions, about known facts that just dont fit the picture, and so who s converting who in the end ?
Science has a distict advantage, in the way of evidence and proof, its the foundations of the modern world, who we really are and maybe what we will become, its the be all and could be the end all of all life on the planet earth, unless we understand the secrets science gives us and learn very fast to control them , like nuclea bombs, we are the first species as far as we know to ever reach the electronic age , in the entire UNIVERSE ,until science prooves otherwise as a species our aim should be to take samples of all the life forms from planet earth and spawn the universe, just incase we are alone, for what do we have to loose with a planet that will eventually die from our own sun, which begs the question ,
''why would god create something only to wipe it all out in a blaze of glory 4 to 5 billion years later''
all life will cease on earth, no answer can account for the life that will be lost when it happens, its the way of the universe, and if we are around as a species you can bet that no bible will tell you thats comming, only science can help you there, so go the evolution creation debate , rock on peoples......................
 

TheShiz

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the evolution vs creation debate is bunk, if you are still dwindling in that you have my sympathies. to reject the overwhelming evidence of evolution is to reject personal brain function.

moving beyond that, I don't believe in god, but if I did I would believe in a god that actually gives a Sh#t. The christian god is an egocentric a hole. "worship me or burn even though I do not make my presence known, I just have morons on the ground doing my dirty work and asking you for money." complete BUNK.

I am an atheist. And I don't care what anyone says, piddlefoot is right. if we don't get off this planet its not just the unrightious that will burn as the christians love to say, all of our ancestors and everything else on the planet will also be burning one day.
 
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