JeffreyLebowski
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LOL, tech2000 filters are fram filters (rebadged of course)Rather use a Tech2000 wal-mart filter then any fram filter.
Originally posted by: PowerMac4Ever
Lexus V8 Oil Filter, made in Japan... Toyota part # 90915-20004
Originally posted by: lobadobadingdong
LOL, tech2000 filters are fram filters (rebadged of course)Rather use a Tech2000 wal-mart filter then any fram filter.
edit: so are quaker state and penzoil filters for that matter.
Originally posted by: Lithium381
I generally use fram, they're cheap, readily available, and i never wait to find out how well they work after 3k miles or so
Originally posted by: Marlin1975
Originally posted by: lobadobadingdong
LOL, tech2000 filters are fram filters (rebadged of course)Rather use a Tech2000 wal-mart filter then any fram filter.
edit: so are quaker state and penzoil filters for that matter.
No they are not. They are Champion Labs filters who also make Mobil1, STP, Bosch, etc...
Originally posted by: Marlin1975
Originally posted by: lobadobadingdong
LOL, tech2000 filters are fram filters (rebadged of course)Rather use a Tech2000 wal-mart filter then any fram filter.
edit: so are quaker state and penzoil filters for that matter.
No they are not. They are Champion Labs filters who also make Mobil1, STP, Bosch, etc...
What Not To Use: Bosch, STP, and Wal-Mart Supertech
While both the STP and the Bosch filters were at one point good filters, they are now manufactured off shore of sub-standard parts. The filter assemblies tended not to have even pleats and generally less media than other comparable filters. There was also a complete lack of a well functioning by-pass valve. With most filters there is an obvious and discrete by-pass valve, but with these filters the can spring and the by-pass valve are the same. The real issue is that in order for the filter to properly by-pass the entire filter assembly would have to move down during use. That is actually not possible with filter assembly properly seating into the anti-drain back valve. This means that the by-pass will effectively never work. In the center of the of picture below you see the filter assembly (top) and the can spring/by-pass valve (bottom). (The can spring / by-pass valve would flip over and into the filter assembly.)
Originally posted by: Howard
Originally posted by: Marlin1975
Originally posted by: lobadobadingdong
LOL, tech2000 filters are fram filters (rebadged of course)Rather use a Tech2000 wal-mart filter then any fram filter.
edit: so are quaker state and penzoil filters for that matter.
No they are not. They are Champion Labs filters who also make Mobil1, STP, Bosch, etc...What Not To Use: Bosch, STP, and Wal-Mart Supertech
While both the STP and the Bosch filters were at one point good filters, they are now manufactured off shore of sub-standard parts. The filter assemblies tended not to have even pleats and generally less media than other comparable filters. There was also a complete lack of a well functioning by-pass valve. With most filters there is an obvious and discrete by-pass valve, but with these filters the can spring and the by-pass valve are the same. The real issue is that in order for the filter to properly by-pass the entire filter assembly would have to move down during use. That is actually not possible with filter assembly properly seating into the anti-drain back valve. This means that the by-pass will effectively never work. In the center of the of picture below you see the filter assembly (top) and the can spring/by-pass valve (bottom). (The can spring / by-pass valve would flip over and into the filter assembly.)
Originally posted by: yellowfiero
Wow, Fram kicked butt, even though everyone talks them down!
Originally posted by: Marlin1975
Originally posted by: yellowfiero
Wow, Fram kicked butt, even though everyone talks them down!
I think people were voting for them as a joke to mess with those that don;t know.
Originally posted by: glenn1
Here's a question for all the Fram haters out there....
For the average driver (40-something driving a Honda Accord 10 miles or so to work daily plus regular errands to the supermarket and the occassional longer trip to the beach, etc), who typically change their oil in the 3-5k range at the dealer or JiffyLube, do you really think there's enough difference to warrant specifying a particular brand of filter?
Originally posted by: glenn1
Here's a question for all the Fram haters out there....
For the average driver (40-something driving a Honda Accord 10 miles or so to work daily plus regular errands to the supermarket and the occassional longer trip to the beach, etc), who typically change their oil in the 3-5k range at the dealer or JiffyLube, do you really think there's enough difference to warrant specifying a particular brand of filter?