POLL: Britain vs. Iran

[Accipiter22]

Originally posted by: jpeyton

Originally posted by: IAteYourMother

Originally posted by: jpeyton

Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt
Billions of dollars and years of labor to rebuild, 10 seconds to re-destroy. Bombs are cheap and England has plenty of them.

Years over schedule and billions of dollars over budget...maybe if you put Halliburton in charge of it. Iran doesn't have an insurgency problem either.

I didn't realize that Britain could only bomb a place once.

March 23rd: 15 sailors detained.
March 24th: No bombs dropped.
March 25th: No bombs dropped.
March 26th: No bombs dropped.
March 27th: No bombs dropped.
March 28th: No bombs dropped.
March 29th: No bombs dropped.
March 30th: No bombs dropped.
March 31st: No bombs dropped.

I'm beginning to see a pattern here.

exactly. I understand you're looking for a diplomatic solution. But Britain is just wagging their finger waiting for this to drop out of the news and all word of those soldiers to 'dissapear' face it. Those soldiers are done, unfortunately.

 

[IAteYourMother]

Originally posted by: SirStev0

Originally posted by: IAteYourMother

Originally posted by: SirStev0

Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt
England. Iran's military is a complete joke, it's largely conscripts with AK-47s. Their air force is mostly grounded for lack of spare parts, the tanks are all 60's and 70's era Russian junk and their navy is a couple of relic subs paired with light coastal defense boats. All they have that works is a large helicopter fleet.

Funny, I bet American's thought the same thing about Iraq. We sure won that one. Stay the course.

Actually, we obliterated the Iraqi army. But maybe you just weren't paying attention.

so we won the battle... how is the war going?

you don't really understand the difference between actual war/battles and occupation do you? Britain clearly isn't looking to occupy Iran, so your analogy is worthless.

 

[JEDIYoda]

Zimbabwe???

 

[Compton]

Originally posted by: SoundTheSurrender
I think you guys forgot that if Iran and Britain went to war it would become every Islam state vs. the Britains

Uh, no.

 

[Smartazz]

British Military
Iran Military

I think that Britain would win.
edit: Based on the military spending of Britain compared to Iran.

 

[RU482]

Originally posted by: jpeyton
How fitting for the UK to get caught up in a quagmire of their own.

Yeah, it would be nice to go back about 70+ yrs and slap the sh!t out of them for creating those nice artificial borders

 

[GagHalfrunt]

Originally posted by: Merlyn3D

Originally posted by: Merlyn3D

Originally posted by: jpeyton

Originally posted by: Merlyn3D

Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt
They can't? Iran's economy based on selling oil. Destroy their refinery, destroy their pipeline and Iran ceases to exist on the world stage. They're right back in the stone age where they belong. There's probably not a single "military power" on earth that can be brought to their knees more easily than Iran. One wave of air attacks and their economy would be gone.

Stone age where they belong? Excuse me? Just how racist and stupid are you?

A lot more than you realize, trust me.

I'm betting he is. I know this was posted before around a month or two ago, but lemme repost it in this thread for those to naive to realize what or who they're so casually joking about bombing.

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Now maybe Gag would be kind enough to enlighten us on why Persians all of the sudden belong in the stone ages.

What are you guys, British? Nobody else could possibly be that namby-pamby. Are you the Iranians friend now? Okay, let me explain this to you and I'll use simple words so that hopefully you might be able to understand. Iran belongs in the stone age because that's where they want to live. The Persian Empire was a rich, vibrant, cultural place. It had commerce, education, art, music, literature, architecture, science. It was the most advanced society of its day. Take a look at Iran now. It's brand of extremism has reverted the area to a state that is FAR beneath where the area was 1500 years ago. Despite trillions of dollars in oil revenue they have an low literacy rate, a high infant mortality rate, almost ZERO economic growth, no original thought, no money being spend on science, on research, on education beyond "Hate the Great Satan", on hospitals, on building an economy, on a system of government beyond hated and intolerance for anyone that isn't just like them. They have less agriculture than they used to despite scientific breakthroughs allowing greater possibilities of growing in arid land. They have pissed away a huge fortune while moving BACKWARD in every measure that defines a society. They're moving themselves into the freaking stoneage and anyone with an education beyond 1st grade understands that. Good luck getting there someday.

Take a look at Dubai. They had less oil money than Iran and started with less of a foundation of a society. When Iran was a rich empire Dubai was tribesmen in tents. They've taken less wealth and turned it into a modern city. They have education, tolerance, employment, medical care, economic growth, science and a society that can survive and even flourish when the oil runs out. Iran? You know what, you were right, I misspoke on them belonging in the stone age. They're not even an advanced enough society to belong in that time period. The folks in the stone age managed to move forward, all Iran can do is move backward.

 

[mrkun]

Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt

What are you guys, British? Nobody else could possibly be that namby-pamby. Are you the Iranians friend now? Okay, let me explain this to you and I'll use simple words so that hopefully you might be able to understand. Iran belongs in the stone age because that's where they want to live. The Persian Empire was a rich, vibrant, cultural place. It had commerce, education, art, music, literature, architecture, science. It was the most advanced society of its day. Take a look at Iran now. It's brand of extremism has reverted the area to a state that is FAR beneath where the area was 1500 years ago. Despite trillions of dollars in oil revenue they have an low literacy rate, a high infant mortality rate, almost ZERO economic growth, no original thought, no money being spend on science, on research, on education beyond "Hate the Great Satan", on hospitals, on building an economy, on a system of government beyond hated and intolerance for anyone that isn't just like them. They have less agriculture than they used to despite scientific breakthroughs allowing greater possibilities of growing in arid land. They have pissed away a huge fortune while moving BACKWARD in every measure that defines a society. They're moving themselves into the freaking stoneage and anyone with an education beyond 1st grade understands that. Good luck getting there someday.

Take a look at Dubai. They had less oil money than Iran and started with less of a foundation of a society. When Iran was a rich empire Dubai was tribesmen in tents. They've taken less wealth and turned it into a modern city. They have education, tolerance, employment, medical care, economic growth, science and a society that can survive and even flourish when the oil runs out. Iran? You know what, you were right, I misspoke on them belonging in the stone age. They're not even an advanced enough society to belong in that time period. The folks in the stone age managed to move forward, all Iran can do is move backward.

This is what happens when most of a country's upper class leaves and goes to LA. Let this be a lesson to others: DON'T DO IT!

 

[Merlyn3D]

Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt

Originally posted by: Merlyn3D

Originally posted by: Merlyn3D

Originally posted by: jpeyton

Originally posted by: Merlyn3D

Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt
They can't? Iran's economy based on selling oil. Destroy their refinery, destroy their pipeline and Iran ceases to exist on the world stage. They're right back in the stone age where they belong. There's probably not a single "military power" on earth that can be brought to their knees more easily than Iran. One wave of air attacks and their economy would be gone.

Stone age where they belong? Excuse me? Just how racist and stupid are you?

A lot more than you realize, trust me.

I'm betting he is. I know this was posted before around a month or two ago, but lemme repost it in this thread for those to naive to realize what or who they're so casually joking about bombing.

Text

Now maybe Gag would be kind enough to enlighten us on why Persians all of the sudden belong in the stone ages.

What are you guys, British? Nobody else could possibly be that namby-pamby. Are you the Iranians friend now? Okay, let me explain this to you and I'll use simple words so that hopefully you might be able to understand. Iran belongs in the stone age because that's where they want to live. The Persian Empire was a rich, vibrant, cultural place. It had commerce, education, art, music, literature, architecture, science. It was the most advanced society of its day. Take a look at Iran now. It's brand of extremism has reverted the area to a state that is FAR beneath where the area was 1500 years ago. Despite trillions of dollars in oil revenue they have an low literacy rate, a high infant mortality rate, almost ZERO economic growth, no original thought, no money being spend on science, on research, on education beyond "Hate the Great Satan", on hospitals, on building an economy, on a system of government beyond hated and intolerance for anyone that isn't just like them. They have less agriculture than they used to despite scientific breakthroughs allowing greater possibilities of growing in arid land. They have pissed away a huge fortune while moving BACKWARD in every measure that defines a society. They're moving themselves into the freaking stoneage and anyone with an education beyond 1st grade understands that. Good luck getting there someday.

Take a look at Dubai. They had less oil money than Iran and started with less of a foundation of a society. When Iran was a rich empire Dubai was tribesmen in tents. They've taken less wealth and turned it into a modern city. They have education, tolerance, employment, medical care, economic growth, science and a society that can survive and even flourish when the oil runs out. Iran? You know what, you were right, I misspoke on them belonging in the stone age. They're not even an advanced enough society to belong in that time period. The folks in the stone age managed to move forward, all Iran can do is move backward.

Ok you nitwit, I happen to be of persian decent which is why I take offense by both your attitude and what you said. You've probably never even been to Iran, so how the hell do you know what it's like there? "no education beyond hate the great satan"? wtf are you talking about? There are many persian grad students here that were undergrads in Iran. I suppose you're an expert though since you've obviously been through their education system, no, wait, if you had you wouldn't be so stupid.

As for being backwards, if you even read the news, you'd see that a LOT of university students over there are protesting in front of the government in a country where you CAN actually get in trouble for doing so. The educated students there know what's going on, and they protest just like the liberal university students here do. Heck, they like the same fashion, same styles and some even same music as the West.

But okay, let's take your mentality and punish the people wanting exactly what we have here in America for the actions of a few extremists in their government. That'd be like punishing all americans for re-electing Bush, when only half the country voted for him.

And FYI, there are quite a few persians along with many other races here on ATOT. You'd be wise to be a little (read: a lot) less stupid in what you say in your posts.

 

[Aimster]

Britain would lose if they invaded Iran.
Iran could not invade Britain.

Britain's Naval force will be easy targets if they enter the Persian Gulf. Almost any ship is an easy target.
Iran has even flown drones over a U.S carrier and videotaped it.

 

[Chaotic42]

We'd all lose.

Seriously though, it's not a good idea. We need to encourage the resistance in Iran, but stay out of there militarily unless we have to go in. Revolution created today's Iran and it will create tomorrow's.

 

[mrkun]

Originally posted by: Chaotic42
We'd all lose.

Seriously though, it's not a good idea. We need to encourage the resistance in Iran, but stay out of there militarily unless we have to go in. Revolution created today's Iran and it will create tomorrow's.

Seriously, if not for President Eisenhower there would most likely not be an Islamic Republic of Iran.

 

[Superself]

Originally posted by: Martin
If Britain attacks Iran, they'll have their asses handed to them.

QFT.

Bombs don't do anything to troops on the ground. Hell, after a few hours, you get used to them.

The UK would get crushed if they attempted any sort of beach head. Do NOT underestimate Iran's army...that would be a huge ass mistake.
Iran also could block up the strait with mines...they have years of experience laying them down.

 

[Aimster]

why does everyone forget the fact that the UK has nukes?

no need for war just drop nukes.

Nobody said it has to be a "nice" war.

 

[Chaotic42]

Originally posted by: Superself

Originally posted by: Martin
If Britain attacks Iran, they'll have their asses handed to them.

QFT.

Bombs don't do anything to troops on the ground. Hell, after a few hours, you get used to them.

What makes you say that? Read up on the psychological effects of being under attack by a B-52. I don't think that war is something easy to get used to. I've never been in combat, but I know people who have.

It's easy to forget just how nice our lives are and just how horrible war is.

 

[judasmachine]

Any country that sells arms to Iran win$$$$$$!

 

[KingofCamelot]

Originally posted by: Superself
Bombs don't do anything to troops on the ground.

You've obviously never been hit with a bomb.

Bombs kill people.

 

[mrkun]

Originally posted by: Chaotic42

Originally posted by: Superself

Originally posted by: Martin
If Britain attacks Iran, they'll have their asses handed to them.

QFT.

Bombs don't do anything to troops on the ground. Hell, after a few hours, you get used to them.

What makes you say that? Read up on the psychological effects of being under attack by a B-52. I don't think that war is something easy to get used to. I've never been in combat, but I know people who have.

It's easy to forget just how nice our lives are and just how horrible war is.

I don't think the UK has any B-52s. Besides, with modern SAM systems they'd easily be shot down.

 

[Chaotic42]

Originally posted by: mrkun
I don't think the UK has any B-52s. Besides, with modern SAM systems they'd easily be shot down.

They do have strike aircraft, and the bomb feels the same no matter what platform it is dropped from. Also, B-52s and other aircraft do have various capabilities to avoid SAMs.

My point is that you don't just get used to being bombed after a few hours.

 

[mrkun]

Originally posted by: Chaotic42

Originally posted by: mrkun
I don't think the UK has any B-52s. Besides, with modern SAM systems they'd easily be shot down.

They do have strike aircraft, and the bomb feels the same no matter what platform it is dropped from. Also, B-52s and other aircraft do have various capabilities to avoid SAMs.

My point is that you don't just get used to being bombed after a few hours.

Still though, no one's going to be carpet bombing. There's a big difference between precision-guided projectiles taking out tactical targets and being carpet bombed by a bunch of B-52s.

 

[BUTCH1]

UK should borrow one of these from us and aim
it's turrets toward shore while cruising about 3 miles offshore...

 

[angminas]

Originally posted by: mrkun

I don't think the UK has any B-52s. Besides, with modern SAM systems they'd easily be shot down.

Like all the American B-52s were in the Gulf War, bombing one of the most SAM-dense nations in the world?

 

[dug777]

Originally posted by: angminas

Originally posted by: mrkun

I don't think the UK has any B-52s. Besides, with modern SAM systems they'd easily be shot down.

Like all the American B-52s were in the Gulf War, bombing one of the most SAM-dense nations in the world?

:laugh:

Indeed.

The British armed forces are extremely well trained and technologically advanced...

They would uberpwn the Iranians, and don't forget that handy backstop, nukes

 

[Stumps]

Originally posted by: BUTCH1
UK should borrow one of these from us and aim
it's turrets toward shore while cruising about 3 miles offshore...

what? a WW2 style battleship that hasn't been in service for more than 15 years?

IIRC the last of the class the USS Missouri, is a museum now.

 

[TehMac]

Originally posted by: Superself

Originally posted by: Martin
If Britain attacks Iran, they'll have their asses handed to them.

QFT.

Bombs don't do anything to troops on the ground. Hell, after a few hours, you get used to them.

The UK would get crushed if they attempted any sort of beach head. Do NOT underestimate Iran's army...that would be a huge ass mistake.
Iran also could block up the strait with mines...they have years of experience laying them down.

Hrmm, bombs don't do anything...interesting. Well this is a bright fellow here.