Poll: Closed captioning in movie theaters

[jlee]

Originally posted by: baffled2

Originally posted by: Sir Fredrick
I agree with baff. surprise surprise.
The petition doesn't say anything about making ALL showings closed captioned. I think they should at least have SOME though. It is currently very difficult to find a movie theater that shows closed captioned movies, and the movies they show are typically so old that they're available on video.

Exactly !!! I mean god forbid that deaf,seriously hearing impaired people might be able to enjoy a film on the big screen when it's first released, I mean that might cause people with normal hearing a bit of an inconvience,heck we can't have that now can we?

Again (I think this is the fifth time...lol, not exactly sure), I have no problem with some theaters running CC. Personally, I won't go to them! I much prefer a pure movie, without the distraction CC adds. As I said earlier, it also messes up the dialogue a bit..it's just not the same. If some people don't mind, that's great. Speaking for myself, I would try to avoid attending a theater with CC..others probably would too, causing them to lose business.

 

[her209]

Originally posted by: CadetLee

Originally posted by: her209

Originally posted by: murphy55d
Inconvenience the majority so the minority can be satisfied?

So you are the majority? Right.

i dont think so. that isnt fair to someone who can hear, text on the screen IS distracting. I hate it when my sister turns on CC on the TV, and she can hear. it's just annoying.

select screenings would be fine. not all of them though.

Would it be fair if they had select theatres with no subtitles?

Let's say out of 100 people 10 are deaf...so 10% would benefit from CC, and 90% wouldn't.

Out of 100 theaters, you want all 100 to be required by law to have closed captioning? I'm not saying that CC is *bad*..I'm saying that it should not be required by law.

If you think the majority of the population is deaf, so be it...but I disagree.

Would it be fair if they had select theatres with no subtitles?

No. Again, majority != deaf. If the majority was deaf, then maybe...but I still feel that it is not the responsibility of the United States Government to regulate movie theaters' closed captioning policies.

Not every hearing person doesn't want subtitles. So lets say 4 out of 10 people are people who can hear but dont care if subtitles are there or feel that its beneficial. Then that makes it a split 5/5 vote. Who is majority now?

 

[Geekbabe]

Originally posted by: murphy55d

Originally posted by: baffled2

Originally posted by: Sir Fredrick
I agree with baff. surprise surprise.
The petition doesn't say anything about making ALL showings closed captioned. I think they should at least have SOME though. It is currently very difficult to find a movie theater that shows closed captioned movies, and the movies they show are typically so old that they're available on video.

Exactly !!! I mean god forbid that deaf,seriously hearing impaired people might be able to enjoy a film on the big screen when it's first released, I mean that might cause people with normal hearing a bit of an inconvience,heck we can't have that now can we?

i dont think anyone is arguing against it... just not in every screening of a movie.

someone with a hearing impairment should be able to go see a movie w/ CC, just as everyone else should be able to go and see a movie w/o it. i'm not sure who you're trying to convince, but it seems you're preachin to the choir so to speak, just a bit combatively.

Combatively ? What? expressing the pov that I find it amazingly that people who are blessed with normal hearing would actually express resentment over an accomadition for those who aren't as lucky?


"Can you hear me now ? "

 

[Amused]

I don't think the government has any business in this. If individual theaters choose to do so, fine. The government has absolutely no business dictating who private businesses may or may not cater to.

I think the BETTER solution would be wireless LCD screens that carry the subtitles so that hearing customers are not annoyed by them, or possibly put the subtitles on the back wall or ceiling... making them usable with special mirrors.

BTW, Baff, the "selfish" argument can go both ways. Are the deaf so selfish as to insist the vast majority of movie goers are to be annoyed with onscreen CC? Are the deaf so selfish as to insist hearing customers pay more to equip theaters with this?

I could understand if deaf groups worked with theater chains to develop CC systems that both served their needs, did not bother other customers, AND they were willing to pay a surcharge on tickets to pay for the added equipment. This I would support. But forcing theaters to do so under threat of law, and not be willing to pay for it, nor care about annoying the vast majority of customers? Well, when that is the case, they can kiss my ass.

 

[jlee]

Originally posted by: Amused
I don't think the government has any business in this. If individual theaters choose to do so, fine. The government has absolutely no business dictating who private businesses may or may not cater to.

I think the BETTER solution would be wireless LCD screens that carry the subtitles so that hearing customers are not annoyed by them, or possibly put the subtitles on the back wall or ceiling... making them usable with special mirrors.

BTW, Baff, the "selfish" argument can go both ways. Are the deaf so selfish as to insist the vast majority of movie goers are to be annoyed with onscreen CC? Are the deaf so selfish as to insist hearing customers pay more to equip theaters with this?

I could understand if deaf groups worked with theater chains to develop CC systems that both served their needs, did not bother other customers, AND they were willing to pay a surcharge on tickets to pay for the added equipment. This I would support. But forcing theaters to do so under threat of law, and not be willing to pay for it, nor care about annoying the vast majority of customers? Well, when that is the case, they can kiss my ass.

Well said.

 

[deafguy]

I voted yes because I?m deaf! It would be nice to have CC in theatre for unfortunate individual like me! Actually I was wrong on ?unfortunate? part, it should be lucky! The reason for that is because I have many benefits for being deaf person! I get lot of money from disability check every month! I can get in any college or university free too! There are many benefits to list! The best part is that it comes out of your hard working money (taxes) hahahaha!

 

[Geekbabe]

Originally posted by: deafguy
I voted yes because I?m deaf! It would be nice to have CC in theatre for unfortunate individual like me! Actually I was wrong on ?unfortunate? part, it should be lucky! The reason for that is because I have many benefits for being deaf person! I get lot of money from disability check every month! I can get in any college or university free too! There are many benefits to list! The best part is that it comes out of your hard working money (taxes) hahahaha!

LOL, the special screening for Trolls is being held underneath this nice bridge !

 

[eakers]

dont worry.
online petitions are useless anyways.

 

[jlee]

Originally posted by: eakers
dont worry.
online petitions are useless anyways.

Not worried - just asking what you all think

 

[GTaudiophile]

Originally posted by: baffled2
What a bunch of selfish fsk's, I mean God Forbid that people who go thru life unable to hear normally might actually be able to attend the opening of a movie that plays better on the big screen and enjoy it ! I mean, hell those inconsiderate deaf people,how dare they screw up timing and dialogue for pimple farmer dweebs !!

The world is a big place,it's not all about you !

Thank you!

 

[AaronP]

I usually download the divx of a new movie, and if I like it, I'll buy the DVD. Sure, I see some movies that suck, and I don't get the dvd for, but I figure, I do more good than harm for the movie industry (over 300 dvds) so I don't mind. If they wanna put closed captioning in the theaters, fine by me, just another reason to keep me away.

 

[Lucky]

Originally posted by: baffled2
What a bunch of selfish fsk's, I mean God Forbid that people who go thru life unable to hear normally might actually be able to attend the opening of a movie that plays better on the big screen and enjoy it ! I mean, hell those inconsiderate deaf people,how dare they screw up timing and dialogue for pimple farmer dweebs !!

The world is a big place,it's not all about you !

LOL, I love the sarcasm.

 

[guyver01]

wtf is with all this PC crap lately...

"closed captioned" movies for the hearing impared..

gimme a break.

 

[Geekbabe]

Originally posted by: Lucky

Originally posted by: baffled2
What a bunch of selfish fsk's, I mean God Forbid that people who go thru life unable to hear normally might actually be able to attend the opening of a movie that plays better on the big screen and enjoy it ! I mean, hell those inconsiderate deaf people,how dare they screw up timing and dialogue for pimple farmer dweebs !!

The world is a big place,it's not all about you !

LOL, I love the sarcasm.

Who was being sarcastic ?

 

[Evadman]

Originally posted by: baffled2
What a bunch of selfish fsk's, I mean God Forbid that people who go thru life unable to hear normally might actually be able to attend the opening of a movie that plays better on the big screen and enjoy it ! I mean, hell those inconsiderate deaf people,how dare they screw up timing and dialogue for pimple farmer dweebs !!

The world is a big place,it's not all about you !

Ok, who let Red Dawn use Baffled's computer?

OMG! Maybe Red Dawn and Baffled2... Nah! That would be like Baffled2 and Jerboy.

 

[Geekbabe]

Originally posted by: Evadman

Originally posted by: baffled2
What a bunch of selfish fsk's, I mean God Forbid that people who go thru life unable to hear normally might actually be able to attend the opening of a movie that plays better on the big screen and enjoy it ! I mean, hell those inconsiderate deaf people,how dare they screw up timing and dialogue for pimple farmer dweebs !!

The world is a big place,it's not all about you !

Ok, who let Red Dawn use Baffled's computer?

OMG! Maybe Red Dawn and Baffled2... Nah! That would be like Baffled2 and Jerboy.

Yo dude, I do actually hold strong opinons on some subjects, I usually just don't bother wasting my breath on people who can supposedly hear but don't listen !

 

[Chaotic42]

Originally posted by: baffled2


Yo dude, I do actually hold strong opinons on some subjects, I usually just don't bother wasting my breath on people who can supposedly hear but don't listen !

Actually I was wondering too. You seem a little more vocal about this than other discussions I've seen you take part in.

 

[Geekbabe]

Originally posted by: Chaotic42

Originally posted by: baffled2


Yo dude, I do actually hold strong opinons on some subjects, I usually just don't bother wasting my breath on people who can supposedly hear but don't listen !

Actually I was wondering too. You seem a little more vocal about this than other discussions I've seen you take part in.

Issues concerning the disabled,children or animal rights usually catch my attention

 

[Evadman]

Originally posted by: baffled2

Originally posted by: Evadman

Originally posted by: baffled2
What a bunch of selfish fsk's, I mean God Forbid that people who go thru life unable to hear normally might actually be able to attend the opening of a movie that plays better on the big screen and enjoy it ! I mean, hell those inconsiderate deaf people,how dare they screw up timing and dialogue for pimple farmer dweebs !!

The world is a big place,it's not all about you !

Ok, who let Red Dawn use Baffled's computer?

OMG! Maybe Red Dawn and Baffled2... Nah! That would be like Baffled2 and Jerboy.

Yo dude, I do actually hold strong opinons on some subjects, I usually just don't bother wasting my breath on people who can supposedly hear but don't listen !

I was actually refering to the "pimple farmer dweebs" remark, not the rest of it

 

[Geekbabe]

Originally posted by: Evadman

Originally posted by: baffled2

Originally posted by: Evadman

Originally posted by: baffled2
What a bunch of selfish fsk's, I mean God Forbid that people who go thru life unable to hear normally might actually be able to attend the opening of a movie that plays better on the big screen and enjoy it ! I mean, hell those inconsiderate deaf people,how dare they screw up timing and dialogue for pimple farmer dweebs !!

The world is a big place,it's not all about you !

Ok, who let Red Dawn use Baffled's computer?

OMG! Maybe Red Dawn and Baffled2... Nah! That would be like Baffled2 and Jerboy.

Yo dude, I do actually hold strong opinons on some subjects, I usually just don't bother wasting my breath on people who can supposedly hear but don't listen !

I was actually refering to the "pimple farmer dweebs" remark, not the rest of it

Hey,if I'm gonna steal... err.. borrow a one liner I'm going straight for the best , Red is after all, the Dweeb Biatch Master around here

 

[agnitrate]

Everybody that appears to be defending the rights of the deaf people by attacking those who have their own opinion: get off of your cross. I have seen exactly 0 statements that are saying 'deaf people suck. They can have their own theaters so we don't have to have the displeasure of being seen with them.' Nearly every reply to this thread has said that 'I don't mind so long as not ALL of the movies are closed captioned since they can provide separate screenings for those who desire to see closed captioned films.'

Nobody has said anything that might even be construed as derogatory towards deaf people here. Do I feel upset that they can't see recent movies in theaters: Sure. I'd be pretty pissed if I couldn't see movies. If I were deaf, would I subject everybody that I saw movies with to view closed captions? Hell no.

I wear glasses but I don't demand that all theaters show the film ouf of focus so only I can view it and then make everybody else wear corrective lenses so they can view it normally.

Granted that's not the best analogy but it's on the right track. What do I think of the matter? The government should in no way dictate what private business should do. I do feel that the theaters should support it however as just the right thing to do.

-silver

 

[littleprince]

Its called supply and demand.
If there was as many deaf ppl as baffled claims their would be a supply for CC.

If I want some big ugly thing blocking my view of a movie I'll sit behind some big a$$ person with marge simpson hair.

I'm sorry but theres no way 100% of the population can enjoy 100% of activities. Maybe we should ban swimming pools from having water more than 12 inches deep so everyone can easily go in them or something.

A movie is an escape from reality. The goal of actors and directors is to make their imaginative world seem real to us. Having a big black box with text popping up and blocking the bottom part the screen completely ruins it.

 

[Geekbabe]

Originally posted by: agnitrate
Everybody that appears to be defending the rights of the deaf people by attacking those who have their own opinion: get off of your cross. I have seen exactly 0 statements that are saying 'deaf people suck. They can have their own theaters so we don't have to have the displeasure of being seen with them.' Nearly every reply to this thread has said that 'I don't mind so long as not ALL of the movies are closed captioned since they can provide separate screenings for those who desire to see closed captioned films.'

Nobody has said anything that might even be construed as derogatory towards deaf people here. Do I feel upset that they can't see recent movies in theaters: Sure. I'd be pretty pissed if I couldn't see movies. If I were deaf, would I subject everybody that I saw movies with to view closed captions? Hell no.

I wear glasses but I don't demand that all theaters show the film ouf of focus so only I can view it and then make everybody else wear corrective lenses so they can view it normally.

Granted that's not the best analogy but it's on the right track. What do I think of the matter? The government should in no way dictate what private business should do. I do feel that the theaters should support it however as just the right thing to do.

-silver

Yeah why should private companies have to provide service to blacks or Asians,the government should stay out of it right?

 

[Lucky]

political correctness run amok.

 

[jlee]

Originally posted by: baffled2

Originally posted by: agnitrate
Everybody that appears to be defending the rights of the deaf people by attacking those who have their own opinion: get off of your cross. I have seen exactly 0 statements that are saying 'deaf people suck. They can have their own theaters so we don't have to have the displeasure of being seen with them.' Nearly every reply to this thread has said that 'I don't mind so long as not ALL of the movies are closed captioned since they can provide separate screenings for those who desire to see closed captioned films.'

Nobody has said anything that might even be construed as derogatory towards deaf people here. Do I feel upset that they can't see recent movies in theaters: Sure. I'd be pretty pissed if I couldn't see movies. If I were deaf, would I subject everybody that I saw movies with to view closed captions? Hell no.

I wear glasses but I don't demand that all theaters show the film ouf of focus so only I can view it and then make everybody else wear corrective lenses so they can view it normally.

Granted that's not the best analogy but it's on the right track. What do I think of the matter? The government should in no way dictate what private business should do. I do feel that the theaters should support it however as just the right thing to do.

-silver

Yeah why should private companies have to provide service to blacks or Asians,the government should stay out of it right?

Providing services to blacks and asians has no relation to CC on movies...