I the future maybe I guess, have a couple SSD's running my OP at the moment and still like having a big HD RAID array on the side as no NAS running.
I built it years ago and still just use it I suppose.
After running SSD's for several years now, I have moved to disk-less on my current build. Prior to this I always kept my 1Tb Raptor involved for storage. Just don't need to anymore.
Whatever works for you. When i can buy 2TB SSD for the same price or less than a 2TB spindle drive, I'm in.
Whatever works for you. When I can buy 2TB spindle drives for the same price or less than 2TB in cassette tapes and punch cards, I'm in.
I think I see how this works. Purposely stick to obsolete painfully inadequate technology and hide behind a 5% price difference (eg: people who build $2000 PCs and then claim they want to save $100 by limiting themselves to 1950s storage technology).
To each their own...
Please wait.... loading.... still loading.... still loading....still loading....
When your drive access light is brighter and more solidly lit than your power light, you have serious issues.
To each their own... You anti SSD cheapskates enjoy that 8 core HT CPU with 16 threads that will for the most part ALWAYS be idle because of disk latency.
Whatever works for you. When I can buy 2TB spindle drives for the same price or less than 2TB in cassette tapes and punch cards, I'm in.
I think I see how this works. Purposely stick to obsolete painfully inadequate technology and hide behind a 5% price difference eg: people who build $2000 PCs and upgrade GPUs every year and then bend over backwards to save $100 and pinch pennies on a one time purchase by limiting themselves to 1950s storage technology.
Please wait.... loading.... still loading.... still loading....still loading.... 90 kbps....two days remaining...(Not Responding...)
When your drive access light is brighter and more solidly lit than your power light, you have serious issues.
To each their own... You anti SSD cheapskates enjoy that 8 core HT CPU with 16 completely idle threads waiting on disk interrupts.
woah buddy, spindle drives are not painfully inadequate.
woah buddy, spindle drives are not painfully inadequate.
Yes. Yes they are.
CPU:RAM speeds are over 50 GB/sec Even internet speeds are hitting 100+ MB/sec in some places. The fastest hard drives that the majority of people have can't even saturate a single 150 MB/sec SATA 1 link. And if the heads have to move it's more like 100 kbps.
People only use them because they have to, for whatever unfortunate reason.
woah buddy, spindle drives are not painfully inadequate. they get the job done quite nicely. I visit facilities that have litterally 10's of thousands of spindle drives still cranking away. Anywhere from 1-3tb 7200 rpm drives, and up to 600GB SAS 10 or 15k rpm drives. Some of these places have multiple sites across the country for redundancy. It's going to be a long time before spindle drives are gone for good.
SSD and flash storage is starting to roll in as more than POC test runs, and more with each new machine. I haven't physically seen bigger than 400GB SSD's though.
My PC didn't costs $2k, because I don't buy the newest "latest and greatest" gear. Such as SSD's. I have two 64GB SSD's, one Crucial and one Samsung. They're in my laptops, store non critical data, and get whatever they need from the file share of my 2TB RAID1. Which can stream multiple 1080p files at once.
I see how this works. Take your solution, and apply it across the board. FWIW, my next SSD will be big enough to replace the drive in the box with teh 2TB RAID1. it will be my OS drive.
I added this since you edited while I was typing.
Sorry if this is your experience with spindle drives. Maybe it's not the drives that are the problem. This is not my experience at all.
I'm not anti SSD, I use it for my needs. Which was my point. If going all SSD works for you, then great.
I don't have an 8 core CPU either as I said, I don't buy the latest and greatest. I'm always a couple years behind it seems. Cheapskate, stingy, frugal, call it whatever you want...Can't change it.
Yes. Yes they are.
CPU:RAM speeds are over 50 GB/sec Even internet speeds are hitting 100+ MB/sec in some places. The fastest hard drives that the majority of people have can't even saturate a single 150 MB/sec SATA 1 link. And if the heads have to move it's more like 100 kbps.
People only use them because they have to, for whatever unfortunate reason.
The only place that spindle drives are adequate in any capacity is in a data center environment when very large amounts of them are aggregated together in SANs and can deliver 1000s of MB/sec. They are absolutely inadequate in a single drive end user workstation environment.
It's nothing personal. I just feel like killing myself every time I have to use a computer with a spindle drive. :awe:
This is open and shut true. Witness the reality of the amazing WD Black on am on right now.
By Thursday, I will know, first hand, if what I was finally moved to do, was worth it or not.
And believe, me only then will I know!
It's nothing personal. I just feel like killing myself every time I have to use a computer with a spindle drive
And here's where you entire opinion is coming from. As I said. My 2TB RAID1 keeps up quite nicely. It's not my OS drive.
edit: You know, these same places are using the aggregated spindle drives to provide virtual desktop envinronments so they can eliminate end user workstations with drives of any kind. Pretty sweet.
You will notice a difference. That is definite.
Well come visit. Experience the reality of this new/used Lynnfield i7 system and this WD Black I am writing from.
You will learn stuff, have yr perspective broadened..... and not be SUICIDAL.
And, I say that with my first SSD on the way.
#FirstWorldProblems
There's a thread somewhere on the forums for you.
My perspective has been broadened wide open by a LSI 9260 saturated in 32 nm toggle NAND, don't think any spindle in the world is going to make a dent :awe:
My perspective has been broadened wide open by a LSI 9260 saturated in 32 nm toggle NAND, don't think any spindle in the world is going to make a dent :awe:
Even my crappy CPU bottlenecked web browsing laptop has a Chronos Deluxe 240GB that almost saturates the SATA 2 link even with randoms.
I think I see how this works. Purposely stick to obsolete painfully inadequate technology and hide behind a 5% price difference eg: people who build $2000 PCs and upgrade GPUs every year and then bend over backwards to save $100 and pinch pennies on a one time purchase by limiting themselves to 1950s storage technology.
Good you can't conceive and gestate a new human. Would optimally take 9 mos.
Obviously you don't.Whatever works for you. When I can buy 2TB spindle drives for the same price or less than 2TB in cassette tapes and punch cards, I'm in.
I think I see how this works. Purposely stick to obsolete painfully inadequate technology and hide behind a 5% price difference eg: people who build $2000 PCs and upgrade GPUs every year and then bend over backwards to save $100 and pinch pennies on a one time purchase by limiting themselves to 1950s storage technology.
Please wait.... loading.... still loading.... still loading....still loading.... 90 kbps....two days remaining...(Not Responding...)
When your drive access light is brighter and more solidly lit than your power light, you have serious issues.
To each their own... You anti SSD cheapskates enjoy that 8 core HT CPU with 16 threads that will for the most part ALWAYS be idle because of disk latency.
Yeah but people don't promise an expectation of 500 billion operations per second and then bait and switch with "please wait... loading..." trivial data sets either. I tell you what, if I could do 500 billion things per second, the last thing you'd hear from me is "please wait".