Poll: Did Trump falsify his medical records presented to the American people?

HomerJS

Lifer
Feb 6, 2002
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Trump's personal doctor for 35 years but no longer just admitted the report he gave on the health of Donald Trump was dictated to him by Trump on his way to the office to pick it up
https://nypost.com/2018/05/01/docto...-that-proclaimed-hed-be-healthiest-president/

Most of us sane people in 2015 upon hearing the letter read by Do. Borenstein proclaiming Trump the healthiest President in history knew it was bullshit.

Fast forward to an eerily similar statement of glowing superlatives by Dr. Ronnie Jackson claiming Trump could live to 200. Oddly enough Jackson's reading of Trump's height and weight again to most of us seemed suspicious at best. No way this tub of lard was only 239lbs. Which coincidentally is 1lb under obese for his height. BTW - Jackson listed his height at 6'3" when a copy of Trump's old drivers license from 20 years prior has him at 6'1". Barack Obama who is 6'1" in every picture with Trump visually is the same height. Besides no human male in history once reaching 50 will grow 2 more inches.

Sounds to me Trump is having fake medical records presented to the American people. What do you think? I'll even leave an out for something besides yes or no.
 

Moonbeam

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Well, let's see. Trump is a narcissistic psychopath who therefore fancies himself to be the best at everything and thus engages in descriptions of himself as such and of course both to a shameless and endless degree and about everything under the sun. Along comes a medical report that tells us he's in the best health of the best, the doctor to whom the report is attributed says he was threatened and told what to say, so yes, if it sounds like the quacking of a quack we know it was written by Trump. Where the story really gets interesting is the fact that the poor doctor has lived in a traumatic state of shocked disbelief for a year or so after being visited by goons apparently because Trump's pathology includes not wanting anybody to know the reason for his absurd hairdo. The poor Doc seems to have trouble integrating all this. Yes, Johnny, we did elect a psychopath for President. American exceptionalism demands exceptional people. Over on MSNBC they often refer to this by asking at the latest headline, "Is this normal?"
 
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BonzaiDuck

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Well, let's see. Trump is a narcissistic psychopath who therefore fancies himself to be the best at everything and thus engages in descriptions of himself as such and of course both to a shameless and endless degree and about everything under the sun. Along comes a medical report that tells us he's in the best health of the best, the doctor to whom the report is attributed says he was threatened and told what to say, so yes, if it sounds like the quacking of a quack we know it was written by Trump. Where the story really gets interesting is the fact that the poor doctor has lived in a traumatic state of shocked disbelief for a year or so after being visited by goons apparently because Trump's pathology includes not wanting anybody to know the reason for his absurd hairdo. The poor Doc seems to have trouble integrating all this. Yes, Johnny, we did elect a psychopath for President. American exceptionalism demands exceptional people. Over on MSNBC they often refer to this by asking at the latest headline, "Is this normal?"

Sociopath. I think it is much more accurate to say that he's a sociopath.

I never took a psych course, and only read what I needed on the subject. The professional association covering clinical psychologists and psychiatrists has been reserved in their comment about Trump's election only because they created an ethical standard of keeping hands off the election process and the candidates. But now, there are several defectors. En masse, I think.

What I find frustrating is how people in Trump's base don't take any academic discipline seriously. You could tell them they were electing Charlie Manson if you had seriously concluded it to be the case, and they will dismiss it -- first, as they dismiss social science as a serious area of study, and second, because "it's all political, and they're trying to smear our fearless leader."

But I knew what Trump was long before the Birther Frenzy. In supporting the candidate who stirred up the Birther Frenzy, I would simply conclude that voters had abrogated a progressive sense of morality, because underlying "Birtherism" is just simple racism and an aversion to globalism even as it is a natural process. Obama represented an outward-looking America eclectic to different countries and cultures, because of his youth spent in the Far East, and even his attendance at a Muslim school. yet, you could conclude from watching "Apprentice" long ago, the behavior at rallies, the indifference to truth and values like humility, that Trump was narcissistically disordered and that generally that sort of behavior dovetails with that of being a sociopath.
 

Billb2

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Mar 25, 2005
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Falsify his medical records? No one knows!

Since he gives us no access to his medical information, it's not possible to say whether or not he's lying. But, given his propensity to twist the truth and outright lie (the reason he doesn't want to testify under oath), I don't believe anything he says about anything.

Alan Dershowitz has an interesting opinion though:
He thinks that It isn't the function of an investigation to trap a person in a lie by asking questions the answer to which they already know. Their function is to find the answers to their questions.

But still, I can't wait for Trump sits down in front of Muller and hang himself. But then, he's already doing that with his tweets!
 

Moonbeam

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Alan Dershowitz has an interesting opinion though:
He thinks that It isn't the function of an investigation to trap a person in a lie by asking questions the answer to which they already know. Their function is to find the answers to their questions.
An admirable ideal. I see a problem trying to extend that courtesy to Trump, however, since everything he says is a lie except if he accidentally says something he didn't know was true.
 

Moonbeam

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Sociopath. I think it is much more accurate to say that he's a sociopath.

I never took a psych course, and only read what I needed on the subject. The professional association covering clinical psychologists and psychiatrists has been reserved in their comment about Trump's election only because they created an ethical standard of keeping hands off the election process and the candidates. But now, there are several defectors. En masse, I think.

What I find frustrating is how people in Trump's base don't take any academic discipline seriously. You could tell them they were electing Charlie Manson if you had seriously concluded it to be the case, and they will dismiss it -- first, as they dismiss social science as a serious area of study, and second, because "it's all political, and they're trying to smear our fearless leader."

But I knew what Trump was long before the Birther Frenzy. In supporting the candidate who stirred up the Birther Frenzy, I would simply conclude that voters had abrogated a progressive sense of morality, because underlying "Birtherism" is just simple racism and an aversion to globalism even as it is a natural process. Obama represented an outward-looking America eclectic to different countries and cultures, because of his youth spent in the Far East, and even his attendance at a Muslim school. yet, you could conclude from watching "Apprentice" long ago, the behavior at rallies, the indifference to truth and values like humility, that Trump was narcissistically disordered and that generally that sort of behavior dovetails with that of being a sociopath.
I debated with myself over the sociopath psychopath thingi and decided, why bother. Psycho felt like a better fit to me.
 

purbeast0

No Lifer
Sep 13, 2001
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Next thing you know, we're going to find out that Trump wasn't really 239 pounds.

NO WAY!!!?????
 

Thebobo

Lifer
Jun 19, 2006
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Saw this on rachell last night a guest forgot who said that doctor drunk (aka candy man) said he didn't have any previous doctors records on Trump when he gave us Trump's health report??? And that was months after the "raid."

Someone lying? again?
 

Bitek

Lifer
Aug 2, 2001
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Voted "No. Trump is an honest guy who would do such a thing." for the lulz.

Of course he lied, and I don't believe Dr Drinky was on the up and up either.

It's all bullshit, all the time.
 

SMOGZINN

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Jun 17, 2005
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Alan Dershowitz has an interesting opinion though:
He thinks that It isn't the function of an investigation to trap a person in a lie by asking questions the answer to which they already know. Their function is to find the answers to their questions.

One of the main ways they find the truth is to ask questions for which they already know the answer to see if the person being questioned lies. If he lies about one thing it can be safely assumed he will lie about other things as well.

With Trump this is just a formality. We know Trump even slightly trustworthy.
 

snoopy7548

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Write this down... Donald Trump's health is the bigliest excellent most health. No one's health is better than mine, I mean Donald Trump's, health is excellent! Nobody better. He could lift a car. By the way, Donald Trump's uncle once built cars, cars that were like you wouldn't believe, fast cars and safe, safe not like they have now with the crumple zones and air bags and you die if you get into a crash, you die, nobody wants that, like Iran. Iran has the nukes and the nuclear and they want us dead! They say death to America! Come on, what is that? Can you believe... no deal, the deal is bad that we have with them. No food, no supplies, no nuclear. Nobody wants to be not dead more than me.
 
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trenchfoot

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Aug 5, 2000
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Fake health diagnosis from a fake president who puts up fake magazine covers of himself on his walls. In order to get elected, in true GOP fashion he painted a fake picture of himself by making fake promises and fake statements.

He even managed to fake himself out by believing he got elected because the people who voted for him liked him for who he is rather than the fake guy he faked them out to be.

In fact he fakes himself out every day of the week by thinking he's a leader of a formidable democracy when he tries his best to be a leader of an absolute dictatorship in order to feel comfortable in his own skin.

He is a perfect example of a guy who is constantly chasing a fake image of himself because his real self can't keep up with it.
 
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I guess if adding an inch and removing a few pounds qualifies as lying.
This whole thing is so Trump, super complicated for no reason.

Also remember guys, this will come back and bite a Democrat someday.
 

Sunburn74

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Its disgraceful that a doctor would play along with this. Also it was pretty obvious that no doctor would ever credibly write the stuff put in that record. I don't think anyone took that health report seriously.

I also think the stuff Dr Jackson said was probably falsified by Trump as well. It too was so unprofessional and childish that it smelled of being put together by essentially a complete amateur when it comes to medicine.
 
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