Poll: Do you as a driver wear a seatbelt?

[otispunkmeyer]

Originally posted by: Insane3D
Do you believe everything you read? People in the back "crushing" the front passengers?!?! C'mon dude....

have u seen fifth gear? they did tests about crashes like this,

they placed a tool kit in the boot, in a 30mph crash into a wall....the tool literally burst through the back seats of the car

at a high enough speed say 50mph. going from 50 to zero in less than a second the G forces are gonna make that persons body many times heavier. with no belt he is bascially going 50mph into the back of his mums seat. it can happen.

it was a government ad anyway i know it doesnt always happen and i know it wouldnt happen as frequently as they want you to believe but it can happen and thats the point

 

[Stumps]

I wasn't talking about going through the seat, but over it plenty of room in most cars, going through the seat, thats crazy talk!

 

[otispunkmeyer]

Originally posted by: Insane3D

Originally posted by: Stumps
actually it can happen, a rear passenger flung over a front seat could do horrendous damage!

If they are in the middle they might be thrown through the windshield....but you can't tell me they are what...going to go through the front seat and crush the front passenger/driver? If the wreck has that much force involved, the people in the front of the car would be dead anyhow...seatbelt or no.

IMO.

well over here in europe we have cars you dont get. Renault....they have the safest cars on the road...their whole range has nearly 5 stars (max points) in the euro N-CAP tests. it is entirely possible to survive

unlike the chrysler voyager.....wow that thing got ZERO in front impact tests and got 18% on side impact

 

[Insane3D]

Originally posted by: Stumps
I wasn't talking about going through the seat, but over it plenty of room in most cars, going through the seat, thats crazy talk!

Yeah...I don't see how else you could "crush" the front passenger like the poster mentioned.

 

[Insane3D]

Originally posted by: otispunkmeyer

Originally posted by: Insane3D
Do you believe everything you read? People in the back "crushing" the front passengers?!?! C'mon dude....

have u seen fifth gear? they did tests about crashes like this,

they placed a tool kit in the boot, in a 30mph crash into a wall....the tool literally burst through the back seats of the car

at a high enough speed say 50mph. going from 50 to zero in less than a second the G forces are gonna make that persons body many times heavier. with no belt he is bascially going 50mph into the back of his mums seat. it can happen.

it was a government ad anyway i know it doesnt always happen and i know it wouldnt happen as frequently as they want you to believe but it can happen and thats the point

I'm not sure what you are explaining. Are you claiming that a "tool" in the backseat of a car in a 30mph crash "burst" through the seat? Were they paper seats?

 

[otispunkmeyer]

Originally posted by: Stumps
I wasn't talking about going through the seat, but over it plenty of room in most cars, going through the seat, thats crazy talk!

maybe in your cars yes.....in my car there certainly is not enough room above my head to fit a body in.
at best theyed probably snap my neck as they came over.

but i make all my passengers wear seat belts

 

[otispunkmeyer]

Originally posted by: Insane3D

Originally posted by: otispunkmeyer

Originally posted by: Insane3D
Do you believe everything you read? People in the back "crushing" the front passengers?!?! C'mon dude....

have u seen fifth gear? they did tests about crashes like this,

they placed a tool kit in the boot, in a 30mph crash into a wall....the tool literally burst through the back seats of the car

at a high enough speed say 50mph. going from 50 to zero in less than a second the G forces are gonna make that persons body many times heavier. with no belt he is bascially going 50mph into the back of his mums seat. it can happen.

it was a government ad anyway i know it doesnt always happen and i know it wouldnt happen as frequently as they want you to believe but it can happen and thats the point

I'm not sure what you are explaining. Are you claiming that a "tool" in the backseat of a car in a 30mph crash "burst" through the seat? Were they paper seats?

sorry meant tool kit not tool

 

[Insane3D]

Ohhh...right. I forgot you guys make titanium cars over there that are impervious to 5000 mph head on collisions?

 

[Stumps]

It costs too much money not to have the passangers wear a seat these days....damn the fuzz!

 

[Muadib]

Originally posted by: sniperruff

Originally posted by: Kalvin00
Of course...I feel weird riding without a seatbelt.

 

[otispunkmeyer]

a laptop computer on the parcel shelf was the best one....it was fired out the windscreen, and it was still traveling more than 20mph afterwards

seriously though even at 30mph its bad....just image being hit by a 70Kg body traveling 30mph. your not gonna get up and walk off thats for sure

 

[otispunkmeyer]

Originally posted by: Insane3D
Ohhh...right. I forgot you guys make titanium cars over there that are impervious to 5000 mph head on collisions?

ok making a car out of titanium would be worse....it wouldnt absorb as much energy as say aluminium/glass fibres/ carbon fibres they use now....all that energy has to go somewhere and itll probably be the passangers.

just had a horrible thought

being cut in half by a seat belt....probably not possible at all, but painful non the less

 

[Stumps]

I remember My old man talking about a car that the poms developed back in the 60's that was just about indestructible, pity about the occupants, i think they became mush or something similar, I can't find a link to it though

 

[Insane3D]

Originally posted by: Stumps
I remember My old man talking about a car that the poms developed back in the 60's that was just about indestructible, pity about the occupants, i think they became mush or something similar, I can't find a link to it though

Yes. Older cars were big and heavy. They were all metal, and when they crashed, they would be almost totally undamaged, but the passengers would be dead. Since the car had so much mass, it transmitted the full force of the crash right to the passengers in a way.

Everything nowadays is meant to crumple and absorb the energy from the crash so the passengers don't have too.

 

[otispunkmeyer]

im telling you it can happen, ive even seen it in the local newspaper, it was a bad crash and they had a column on it. the front passenger was crushed by the passenger directly behind her.

if they hit the back of the seat hard enough, the mechanisms inside the seat will just break, then the seat belt retention thing would kick in, so they would have a force pushing them one way and a relatively narrow seat belt pushing the other way. bet that would hurt...then if that seat belt broke its face to the dash board time...last i checked the dash board wasnt the softest place on earth

 

[Stumps]

I was talking about a car that couldn't be damaged at all, but know that i think about I wouldn't like to take my chances in my 1978 falcon, it's a 1800kg solid mass of metal, with only a colaspable steering column for saftey.

 

[otispunkmeyer]

Originally posted by: Stumps
I was talking about a car that couldn't be damaged at all, but know that i think about I wouldn't like to take my chances in my 1978 falcon, it's a 1800kg solid mass of metal, with only a colaspable steering column for saftey.

damn, thats pretty poor, just shows how far we've come

 

[Stumps]

yep, hey when it came out from the factoy it didn't even have discs on the bum, or seat belts in the back, they were optional, but it does have them in the front, and the dash is padded, the model before it discs were optional on the front!

 

[otispunkmeyer]

discs as in disc brakes?

drum brakes must be mans worst creation! i hate them and they look crap with alloy wheels

 

[slightlyhuman]

imo it's the easiest way to save you're life

 

[MikeyIs4Dcats]

always...

 

[Gothgar]

Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Hell-Mother-Goat-A$$-F@ckin' YES, and so does everyone in my car.

- M4H

did you just say goatse?

 

[mrrman]

always, 2nd nature to put in on plus it feels wierd not having it around/on you while driving or being a passenger plus its the law

 

[CraigRT]

doesn't everyone?
only time i haven't is when i forget (almost never)

 

[ScoobMaster]

As a former race car driver / pit crew member / NASCAR official, not only do I always wear it, I frequently adjust it to make sure it is snug against my body (having it loose is what will hurt you in a collision). I can't stand it when it is not tight against me.