Poll: Do you as a driver wear a seatbelt?

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randomlinh

Lifer
Oct 9, 1999
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i hate the automatic ones that only cross over the chest. It makes me tend to forget to strap in the lap belt. Maybe if i owned a car with it, i'd remember more.

but as a driver, i've rarely forgotten.
 

Pliablemoose

Lifer
Oct 11, 1999
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Seat belt use for me was driven home by several incidents.

Totaled 2 Honda Civics while wearing seat belt, not a scratch, they were older & didn't take much to total, but everything crumpled the way it should & the seat belts left some bruises, but I walked away.

Sat in the middle of 6 lane divided highway holding cervical traction on a woman (for 1/2 hour waiting for EMS) who was ejected through the windshield of a Ford Explorer from the back seat, while she was sleeping, they rear ended a stalled Jeep Wrangler in the center lane.

Wife's ex was killed when he hit a bus, older Chevrolet pickup, non collapsable steering colum, not wearing his seat belt, no airbags. Killed nearly instantly, ripped the aorta from his heart & he bled to death.
 

Armitage

Banned
Feb 23, 2001
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Absolutely

Two seatbelt stories -
A few years back, some kids were flying down I25 south of colorado springs in a Civic. Police estimated the speed at > 100 MPH. Left the road, rolled/crashed. 3 unbelted rider = dead, 1 belted rider = broken ankle.

Back in 98, was up in Alaska. Some idiot in a suburban driving like an ass, passing in blind turns, etc. Came up on him a few minutes later after he lost trraction on the wet road and rolled. A witness said that the second time it rolled he was halfway out the driver side window, the the car rolled over on him. Took EMS > 90 minutes to get there from Valdez, but it was clear there was nothing to be done for this guy. The crash was completely survivable if he had been belted.

Regarding laws & seatbelts - I'd like to see insurance incentives. If you're in an accident, and found to not have been belted in, your benefits are significantly limited - unless you buy the "I'm and idiot" rider that covers your freedom.
 

Mayfriday0529

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Sep 15, 2003
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Click it or Ticket

I also had one of those automatic seatbelts on another car and would forget to click the waist belt but finally someone got me into the habit. I don't have that car anymore i prefer non automatic ones.
 

Siddhartha

Lifer
Oct 17, 1999
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Wearing seatbelts is an evolutionary selective pressure. Not wear a seatbelt while driving on I-95 will decrease your chances of living long enough to reproduce.
 

AdamSnow

Diamond Member
Nov 21, 2002
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I do not drive my car without being buckled up...

I also, will not drive if someone in my car is not strapped in...
 

Scouzer

Lifer
Jun 3, 2001
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Always. Everyone in my car has to as well. But I admit I do not always notice if passengers wear it.
 

DougK62

Diamond Member
Mar 28, 2001
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Do I always wear a seatbelt? Yes.

Do I think the government should require that I do so? No.

 

CADblather

Junior Member
Dec 31, 2004
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Wearing a seat belt doesn't decrease your risk factor blabbidy blabbiddy and I will argue this assinine point till the end of time.com.
 

OREOSpeedwagon

Diamond Member
May 30, 2001
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I always do. It's kind of funny, when I go somewhere with my friend and his parents I'm the only one in the car that wears a seatbelt
 

MacBaine

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Aug 23, 2001
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Originally posted by: Insane3D
Originally posted by: otispunkmeyer
Originally posted by: HardcoreRobot
always, and i make sure my passengers do to

but it should NOT be ILLEGAL not to


it should be illegal

what so when u have a head on crash and you get pwnd by the other person coming through YOUR windshield becuase they never wore a seat belt you'd want it to be illegal not to wear one then wouldnt u

:roll:

You do realize there are types of crashes where a seatbelt can make things worse, or possibly trap you in the vehicle right?

:roll:

You realize that the occurance of these types of crashes is all but insignificant when compared to crashes where the seat belt saves your life, right?
 

FoBoT

No Lifer
Apr 30, 2001
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i always wear the seat belt , when driving or riding
when driving, i require ALL passengers to wear the seat belt
 

scorpmatt

Diamond Member
Feb 8, 2001
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Always wear it while driving. Just habit. Was driving one time going up a hill and someone in the middle seat of the van i was driving flew backwards over the seat they were in when i hit a bump and they were not wearing their seat belt
 

Apathetic

Platinum Member
Dec 23, 2002
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I always wear a seatbelt if I'm in the front of a car/truck. Not so much if I'm in the back seat.

Dave
 

axnff

Senior member
Dec 1, 2000
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I do, and all my passengers must wear theirs, or we don't move. And I have kicked someone out of the car for not wearing theirs (same parking lot, so I took them to their car).

That wearing seatbelts save lives is (not quite) indisputable (numerous studies in numerous countries indicate this, most of the dissenting opinions simply fail to take into account important but not obvious variables, such as behavior). In fact, studies show that people not accustomed to wearing seatbelts tend to drive substantially more aggressively when forced to wear them. This has been demonstrated to be persistent behavior. This can actually lead to an increase in dead people wearing seatbelts in accidents.

So it is hard to argue for mandatory seatbelts.

On the other hand, driving is a PRIVELEGE, not a right. At least 50% of the population simply doesn't get this. There is no "self-evident truth" that man has the "right to drive whenever, whatever, wherever, however he pleases". It is a privelege (ostensibly) granted to those who display the aptitude for reasonably piloting a vehicle. Since it is such a useful mechanism for transportation, the roads system is paid for with public funds. I have no problem with this, as 100% of the population (even those who do not themselves drive or ride - even the Amish make use of public roads) relies on this system in some way.

The problem comes when people misuse this great privelege. "Your right to swing your fist ends where my nose begins" is a fundamental (though seemingly lost) tenet of the constitution. In order to exercise use of this privelege, most people are required to carry insurance, and be licensed to operate the vehicle. MY insurance goes up when some idiot dies or gets maimed when not wearing a seatbelt. MY insurance goes up when you jump the median, hit me head-on, and your passenger flies through your window. MY family gets injured/killed when you/your passengers fly through both our windshields.

In a given demographic, everyone has roughly the same odds of getting in an accident. People who don't wear their seatbelt are a higher statistical risk for causing harm to others. They should pay their own damn insurance rates. Get caught without a seatbelt but you are in the "wears a seatbelt" rate? Insurance adds the difference you should have paid in premiums to your deductible for that incident, and bump you into the appropriate category, from which you may never go back (seeing as there's no way to prove you have started to regularly wear your seatbelt).

Heck, I would totally support this system, if for nothing else than the Insurance Companies, with their bottom line on the line, would be sure to get the statistics right, and these kind of arguments would cease...

One last thing, to argue that seatbelts are in any way dangerous is specious at best; I don't avoid eating food because of the choking hazard, the odds of surviving without the food are substantially worse than the odds of choking. Everything we do in life has some level of intrinsic risk...
 

jadinolf

Lifer
Oct 12, 1999
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I started doing it 6 months before it was mandatory in California.
Haven't gotten killed yet.
 

Pohemi

Diamond Member
Oct 2, 2004
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I always do when driving, it has become habit. I can't forget to put it on, because I don't feel secure (in my seat) without it.
 

JulesMaximus

No Lifer
Jul 3, 2003
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Originally posted by: HardcoreRobot
always, and i make sure my passengers do to

but it should NOT be ILLEGAL not to

Why not? It seems to work at both saving lives and getting stupid people to buckle up. Seems to me that this is one of the more effective laws on the books.
 

joecool

Platinum Member
Apr 2, 2001
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never did 'til i got married - then my wife started giving me grief about it. finally realized it was because she cares and she had a point. now i always do it, and now that we have kids it's not even a question.
 
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