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kevinthenerd

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Originally posted by: destrekor
time is the 4th dimension... and i think there are other planes of existence, whether or not they are all located in the same dimension or each one its own dimension, but death transports you to the other planes, and ghosts may stem from that.

The problem I have with that is that, if I take a 3-D object, I'm able to swap dimensions by rotating it. I can seamless move properties from one to the other with physical movement. Why should the fourth and beyond be so different?
 

kevinthenerd

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I still said there were more than 3 dimensions. General relativity wouldn't really work right if you didn't accept a fourth dimension, and the string theorists can't be TOTALLY looney, even though I can't fully imagine 14 dimensions in my limited human brain.

I wrote a lengthy paper in my college psychology class (2-3 times the required length) concerning global and procedural navigation in three and four dimensions, if anyone has any questions about that sort of stuff. I have a hunch that if we can somehow unlock our brain's potential in 4+ dimensions, we'd be able to think our way through a much larger array of problems. Imagine being able to visualize high-rank tensors and high-order vectors; linear algebra would never be the same.
 

huberm

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if time is a dimension of its own, theoretically was time created at the very moment the universe was created?
 

MajinWade

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X^1 = 1 dimension; think point
X^2 = 2 dimension; circle
X^3 = 3 dimension; sphere
X^4,X^5,X^42 = more than 3 dimensions
 

Tom

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Suppose clever dinosaurs never wnt extinct, they just figured out how to move into another dimension ?

How would we know ?

 

TheoPetro

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Time can be considered as the 4th dimension when you are speaking of the coordinates of an event. To accurately describe an event you need a location (x,y,z) and a time (t). So in that sense time would be the 4th dimension with the notation (x,y,z,t) being the coordinates. Now as to higher spacial dimensions, yes I do believe they exist. I am doing some research along the lines of the book flatland to try to help others visualize and think of other higher dimensions. Interesting stuff.
 

archiloco

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Originally posted by: TheoPetro
Time can be considered as the 4th dimension when you are speaking of the coordinates of an event. To accurately describe an event you need a location (x,y,z) and a time (t). So in that sense time would be the 4th dimension with the notation (x,y,z,t) being the coordinates. Now as to higher spacial dimensions, yes I do believe they exist. I am doing some research along the lines of the book flatland to try to help others visualize and think of other higher dimensions. Interesting stuff.

plz report findings...hehe don't want to read his book.. not yet anyway
 

TheoPetro

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Originally posted by: archiloco
Originally posted by: TheoPetro
Time can be considered as the 4th dimension when you are speaking of the coordinates of an event. To accurately describe an event you need a location (x,y,z) and a time (t). So in that sense time would be the 4th dimension with the notation (x,y,z,t) being the coordinates. Now as to higher spacial dimensions, yes I do believe they exist. I am doing some research along the lines of the book flatland to try to help others visualize and think of other higher dimensions. Interesting stuff.

plz report findings...hehe don't want to read his book.. not yet anyway

Its just thinking about it the way its thought about in that book.
 

archiloco

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Originally posted by: TheoPetro
Originally posted by: archiloco
Originally posted by: TheoPetro
Time can be considered as the 4th dimension when you are speaking of the coordinates of an event. To accurately describe an event you need a location (x,y,z) and a time (t). So in that sense time would be the 4th dimension with the notation (x,y,z,t) being the coordinates. Now as to higher spacial dimensions, yes I do believe they exist. I am doing some research along the lines of the book flatland to try to help others visualize and think of other higher dimensions. Interesting stuff.

plz report findings...hehe don't want to read his book.. not yet anyway

Its just thinking about it the way its thought about in that book.


i get it now, sorry you working on something along those lines....you already read the book.
 

jpeyton

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What do you think is on the other side of a black hole?

And if you believe that time travel will eventually be possible (whether it be 100 or 1000 or 10,000 years from now), then you must believe in multiple dimensions. Because the time travelers are already here, walking amongst us, and we exist in time like pages in a book.
 

Electric Amish

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Originally posted by: jpeyton
What do you think is on the other side of a black hole?

And if you believe that time travel will eventually be possible (whether it be 100 or 1000 or 10,000 years from now), then you must believe in multiple dimensions. Because the time travelers are already here, walking amongst us, and we exist in time like pages in a book.

Another planet with a Stargate....DUH!!!
 

thehstrybean

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Originally posted by: Electric Amish
Originally posted by: jpeyton
What do you think is on the other side of a black hole?

And if you believe that time travel will eventually be possible (whether it be 100 or 1000 or 10,000 years from now), then you must believe in multiple dimensions. Because the time travelers are already here, walking amongst us, and we exist in time like pages in a book.

Another planet with a Stargate....DUH!!!

At least an event horizon...
 

kevinthenerd

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I just tried doing three-dimensional matrix algebra in my head. It's required for some engineering code I'm developing as a hobby in my free time.
 

ProfJohn

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Originally posted by: jpeyton
What do you think is on the other side of a black hole?

And if you believe that time travel will eventually be possible (whether it be 100 or 1000 or 10,000 years from now), then you must believe in multiple dimensions. Because the time travelers are already here, walking amongst us, and we exist in time like pages in a book.

There is no "other side" there is only a Singularity, at least that is the theory today.

Try reading about Blackholes... talk about some seriously intense science.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackhole
 

DrPizza

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My senior project to get my b.s. in applied mathematics was visualizing 4th dimensional objects by looking at three dimensional cross sections and shadows of those objects.

i.e. You can look at shadows (2 dimensional) of 3-dimensional objects, especially as those objects are spinning, and visualize what the 3-dimensional object looks like in your mind..
Soooooooo, I took it a step further. It gave me a LOT of headaches thinking about it, but one day, I sat down and wrote a thousand or so lines of code for Mathematica, and bamm.... I think I saw God.
 

erwin1978

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I look at the idea of alternate dimensions like a radio. We all know that our universe is running at 98.3 MHz FM. Every atom in our universe oscillate in that frequency. If I wanted to move to my alter-egos' universe(Z100) all I have to do is change frequency. That means all the atoms in my body have to change to that frequency and I'll appear in the 103.5 MHz universe.

From my extensive studies, a worm hole can act as the tuning knob. If I can go through it a certain way it's like tuning in to your favorite radio station. Of course this is all just my theory.
 

OOBradm

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Originally posted by: erwin1978
I look at the idea of alternate dimensions like a radio. We all know that our universe is running at 98.3 MHz FM. Every atom in our universe oscillate in that frequency. If I wanted to move to my alter-egos' universe(Z100) all I have to do is change frequency. That means all the atoms in my body have to change to that frequency and I'll appear in the 103.5 MHz universe.

From my extensive studies, a worm hole can act as the tuning knob. If I can go through it a certain way it's like tuning in to your favorite radio station. Of course this is all just my theory.


Wormholes are more of a thing that "connect" parts of space that werent thought to be connected... maybe your theory is right though no one has ever travelled through one.

A cool topic though is how wormholes can be used for time travel. If, say, a wormhole connected 2 planets that were 2 lightyears away, but the wormhole allowed you to travel there in a few seconds, you could technically arrive at your desination planet, then look where you came from, and watch yourself leave.
 

kevinthenerd

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Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Originally posted by: jpeyton
What do you think is on the other side of a black hole?

And if you believe that time travel will eventually be possible (whether it be 100 or 1000 or 10,000 years from now), then you must believe in multiple dimensions. Because the time travelers are already here, walking amongst us, and we exist in time like pages in a book.

There is no "other side" there is only a Singularity, at least that is the theory today.

Try reading about Blackholes... talk about some seriously intense science.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackhole

If you're willing to assume more than 3 dimensions, a black hole, by bending space-time so thoroughly, might be able to create a shortcut through highly-curved spacetime. The exact curvature of spacetime is what is required here.

Have you ever seen those models where a rubber sheet was used to demonstrate space time? A heavy object is placed and lighter objects roll around to it. Well, imagine an object very massive that closes the sheet in behind it such that the slope of the sheet is infinite (where it touches at adjacent secants) and forms a point. Assuming this curved model, the space time inside of the sack-looking portion still exists, but it's outside of our conventional scope. The trouble with this is that spaghetification will ruin everything (because even electron orbits will be restricted) and that everything that enters a black hole becomes chaotic energy with no information surviving.
 
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