Poll: Do you need a degree to be an official engineer?

[3NF]

Originally posted by: animalia

Originally posted by: 3NF
Again, the title doesn't matter - it's all about what you provide to society

Lawyers - :thumbsdown: - worthless

so you'd rather have your trial in the hands of the judge and jury only...with no lgal knowledge to defend yourself for something you did not do?

Sorry, but I have absolutely no respect for lawyers, politicians, the judicial system, etc., in any way whatsoever. I haven't been to court and I don't plan to go to court. I just live my life with one sense - "common sense". Seems to have kept me out of trouble for many years now.

Our government should be about geniocracy.

 

[91TTZ]

A CCIE will make more money than most "real" engineers.

 

[3NF]

Originally posted by: Engineer

Originally posted by: 3NF

Originally posted by: Engineer

Originally posted by: 3NF

Originally posted by: Engineer

Originally posted by: 3NF
The only thing a degree proves is that you were able to balance sex/booze with your studies.

I've never drank a drop!

(seriously).

You're kidding, right? You're telling me you didn't get drunk and screw random chicks while in college? That's what it is all about!!

No, I'm not kidding. Oh, and I had a blast in college.

Ok, that's cool - but you did at least have some drops of poontang?

I was with one woman during my 5 1/2 years of school (quit for a year and lost a semester of hours because the courses changed while I had quit). I am still with that same wonderful woman today as we've been married 15 years (16 in April). And today, I'm still having a blast with her just as I did in college.

Wow - when my kid goes to college I am going to specifically tell her/him NOT to have a steady boyfriend/girlfriend ... We weren't genetically engineered to have sex with the same person our entire lives.

 

[Triforceofcourage]

Engineers suck!! Accountants > Engineers

 

[Engineer]

Originally posted by: 3NF
Wow - when my kid goes to college I am going to specifically tell her/him NOT to have a steady boyfriend/girlfriend ... We weren't genetically engineered to have sex with the same person our entire lives.

Your kid is going to do what they want regardless of what you say. Chances are, they will be with several people (or more) during college. I may be an exception to the rule, but I love (loved too) every minute of it. To each is own! :beer:

 

[Engineer]

Originally posted by: Triforceofcourage
Engineers suck!! Accountants > Engineers

Bah! : Puke;

My dad wanted me to be an accountant (or at least look at it). Accounting sucks @ss.

 

[jadinolf]

Originally posted by: jmebonner
"Real" Engineers run the throttle, blow the horn, and listen to instructions from the conductor. Oh yeah, they wear those goofy striped hats and overalls as well.

:thumbsup::laugh:

Didn't take you long to come up with that one.

 

[3NF]

Originally posted by: Engineer

Originally posted by: 3NF
Wow - when my kid goes to college I am going to specifically tell her/him NOT to have a steady boyfriend/girlfriend ... We weren't genetically engineered to have sex with the same person our entire lives.

Your kid is going to do what they want regardless of what you say. Chances are, they will be with several people (or more) during college. I may be an exception to the rule, but I love (loved too) every minute of it. To each is own! :beer:

That is true -- and I want them to do what they want to do, and not give in to today's conformity (religion/laws/etc)

Accountants? Do we really need them now that we have TurboTax?

 

[bignateyk]

No, but if you had a degree, it probably would have only taken a year or two to get the job you have instead of a decade.

 

[mwtgg]

Originally posted by: 3NF
That is true -- and I want them to do what they want to do, and not give in to today's conformity (religion/laws/etc)

Accountants? Do we really need them now that we have TurboTax?

There's more to Accounting than 1040's

 

[Engineer]

Originally posted by: mwtgg

Originally posted by: 3NF
That is true -- and I want them to do what they want to do, and not give in to today's conformity (religion/laws/etc)

Accountants? Do we really need them now that we have TurboTax?

There's more to Accounting than 1040's

OK, we'll throw in MS Excel too!

 

[Geocentricity]

And with the piece of paper that says you are a PE, people will know and come to trust the service you can provide them rather than just hearsay and you promising that your work is good "just because you have lots of experience".

Get that piece of paper and people will do business with you with confidence.

 

[3NF]

Originally posted by: Geocentricity
And with the piece of paper that says you are a PE, people will know and come to trust the service you can provide them rather than just hearsay and you promising that your work is good "just because you have lots of experience".

Get that piece of paper and people will do business with you with confidence.

That's right, but it's only the stupid people that will ....

 

[RallyMaster]

Gotta love this thread. My roommate's in ECET and is always arguing with AgaBoogaBoo and me about ECE vs ECET.

 

[Deleted member 4644]

Originally posted by: preslove
Engineering |= profession

To officially become a member of a professional body you are required to take a licensure examination and hold the required credentials. You are a "real" doctor because the AMA says you are a doctor; you are a real "lawyer" because the [insert state] Bar Association says you are a lawyer; and you are a "real" massage therapist because your state's licensing board says you are. AFAIK there are no engineering licensure qualifications, making it a general descriptor of a generalized field of work, not a profession. Therefore, there is no such thing as a "real" engineer. Any engineers making the claim have over-inflated images of themselves.

Your friends are "engineering snobs," not "real engineers."

This is the credited response.

 

[91TTZ]

Originally posted by: Geocentricity
And with the piece of paper that says you are a PE, people will know and come to trust the service you can provide them rather than just hearsay and you promising that your work is good "just because you have lots of experience".

Get that piece of paper and people will do business with you with confidence.

I hope this was a joke.

If not, use a few seconds of thought and think of all the certified engineers with a PE that designed something that failed disastrously.

OR, recall this joke:

Q: What do you call the med student who graduated dead last in his class from the worst med school in the nation?

A: Doctor.

 

[Wreckem]

Technically speaking you arent a real engineer unless you are a licensed engineer in your state. That typically requires a masters degree and passing a battery of tests.

 

[Wreckem]

Originally posted by: preslove
Engineering |= profession

To officially become a member of a professional body you are required to take a licensure examination and hold the required credentials. You are a "real" doctor because the AMA says you are a doctor; you are a real "lawyer" because the [insert state] Bar Association says you are a lawyer; and you are a "real" massage therapist because your state's licensing board says you are. AFAIK there are no engineering licensure qualifications, making it a general descriptor of a generalized field of work, not a profession. Therefore, there is no such thing as a "real" engineer. Any engineers making the claim have over-inflated images of themselves.

Your friends are "engineering snobs," not "real engineers."

Check again, almost every state has a professional license for engineering. More so for civil engineering.

 

[Geocentricity]

Originally posted by: 91TTZ

Originally posted by: Geocentricity
And with the piece of paper that says you are a PE, people will know and come to trust the service you can provide them rather than just hearsay and you promising that your work is good "just because you have lots of experience".

Get that piece of paper and people will do business with you with confidence.

I hope this was a joke.

If not, use a few seconds of thought and think of all the certified engineers with a PE that designed something that failed disastrously.

OR, recall this joke:

Q: What do you call the med student who graduated dead last in his class from the worst med school in the nation?

A: Doctor.

Its cool, our opinions are different. I can accept that.

But the next time you need medical advice, will you go seek Dr. Nick Riviera instead of Dr. Hibbert?

 

[Wreckem]

Originally posted by: 3NF

Originally posted by: animalia

Originally posted by: 3NF
Again, the title doesn't matter - it's all about what you provide to society

Lawyers - :thumbsdown: - worthless

so you'd rather have your trial in the hands of the judge and jury only...with no lgal knowledge to defend yourself for something you did not do?

Sorry, but I have absolutely no respect for lawyers, politicians, the judicial system, etc., in any way whatsoever. I haven't been to court and I don't plan to go to court. I just live my life with one sense - "common sense". Seems to have kept me out of trouble for many years now.

Our government should be about geniocracy.

You do realize most lawyers never step foot into an actual courtroom. And even trial lawyers actually spend 90% of their time outside of the court room. Every contract you have ever signed has been written by a lawyer.

 

[Descartes]

Originally posted by: 3NF

Originally posted by: animalia

Originally posted by: 3NF
Again, the title doesn't matter - it's all about what you provide to society

Lawyers - :thumbsdown: - worthless

so you'd rather have your trial in the hands of the judge and jury only...with no lgal knowledge to defend yourself for something you did not do?

Sorry, but I have absolutely no respect for lawyers, politicians, the judicial system, etc., in any way whatsoever. I haven't been to court and I don't plan to go to court. I just live my life with one sense - "common sense". Seems to have kept me out of trouble for many years now.

Our government should be about geniocracy.

You're just trolling, right?

 

[JRich]

OP: most likely not. Hell, I'm running experiments for a new part we are going to use to see what it does to our processes. I have to design recipes for these new parts and I'm only a technician.

 

[Adn4n]

IT DEPENDS WHERE YOU LIVE.

In america you can call yourself an engineer, like those Microsoft people do. But in Canada for example I'm told they have to remove the engineer from their name, though they can keep the acronym's E.

 

[OS]

Originally posted by: xtknight
A degree means nothing by itself. Someone without a degree could be smarter. In fact I have quite a bit of confidence that I'd be just fine without a degree in Computer Science (provided my employer only looked at my interview quiz and not my degrees). I still think I'll pursue one anyway as it is my Major and it shows you put forth the effort which might be more important to some employers than others.

It does not mean "nothing". I've had interviews where the first thing they ask you is, do you have an engineering degree from an ABET accredited insitution. If you don't, they won't talk to you any further.

You guys can rip school all you want, i don't care for it much either. But face it, the world largely works off of credentials. It's illegal to represent yourself as a lawyer, no matter how involved you are in the legal system, without a law degree. Same for medical, nurses and PAs, who now do alot of the work docs once did, but they are not real docs, even despite all the sh*tty malpractice and incompetent real docs in the world.

 

[OS]

Originally posted by: Triforceofcourage
Engineers suck!! Accountants > Engineers

you mean bean counters