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soundforbjt

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IIRC, when Trump called Putin to congratulate him on his election, he was in his private quarters on his own phone. He follows zero usual protocol, it means nothing to him.
 

Cr0nJ0b

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Question....Would the NSA, CIA or whatever intelligence agency have the authority to eavesdrop on the meeting? Probably not, since they report to him...but I would imagine they have the capability to listen in...maybe just to keep things on the level.
 

Younigue

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IIRC, when Trump called Putin to congratulate him on his election, he was in his private quarters on his own phone. He follows zero usual protocol, it means nothing to him.
It's not only because he doesn't want to follow protocol or that he feels he is above it. He can't follow protocol because he is a traitor committing treason on the daily.
 

fskimospy

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Trump's probably going to tell Putin that he'll have more flexibility after his re-election.

I've never understand why conservatives whip themselves up into a frenzy over that statement. What Obama said was undeniably true and we all know it.
 

trenchfoot

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When I step back and look at the trail of shit Trump has left behind him irt his relationship with Putin and the obviously suspect financial "deals" he's made with those Russian oligarchs that are beholden to Putin for their very existence, it becomes glaringly obvious just how deeply involved Trump is with his Russian connections.

How anyone can deny that this dependence on the Russians to maintain his need for fast cash directly affects his decision making regarding foreign policy, especially those issues concerning our former close allies and NATO's ability to keep Putin's desire for European supremacy in check is ludicrous.

It's one of those many significant issues that the GOP and many on the right conveniently ignores in their attempts at protecting Trump from the well deserved ridicule and suspicion that gets heaped on him on a daily/hourly basis.

Let's face the obvious here: Trump is compromised in ways that are imminently dangerous to our national security. There's no getting around this, despite the concerted and monumental efforts by the Repub controlled legislature to do just that, thus deeply implicating themselves in Trump's attempts at ignoring the rule of law to hide his past indiscretions and forcing the nation to his will.
 
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i certainly don't think any leader should be discussing policy or meeting with any foreign leader eother alone or wihout transcripts. I'd like to say I'm shocked by the mere thought of such an idiotic idea but the shock and awe days are over. Nothing surprises now, especially after the Singapore Suckoff.

Its not wise for ANY of our leaders to do such a thing but the Liar is the last one I trust in this situation. He's a proven liar and narcissistic to the core.

I'm thinking he comes back with some empty promises of energy cooperation, which will amount to funneling Iranian oil through russia haha. He might even trot out the old "cooperiation on security" for a laugh and to rile up the 'enemy' camp- anyone not currently gurgling his nuts.
 

Jhhnn

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I've never understand why conservatives whip themselves up into a frenzy over that statement. What Obama said was undeniably true and we all know it.

Or how they switch directions like a banner in the breeze. Our relationship with Russia was progressing nicely even with the party of No backbiting Obama. When Putin came back into power, seized Crimea & started a war in the Donbass everything changed, rightfully so. But now that Putin helped Trump get elected, everything should be all lovey-dovey, because of the MAGA. Or something. I mean, we should be thankful to Vlad for helping us make such a wise choice, obviously.
 
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I've never understand why conservatives whip themselves up into a frenzy over that statement. What Obama said was undeniably true and we all know it.
When it came to Russia, The Feckless One was about as naive as they come. Here's to hoping that Mr. Bombastic doesn't give him a run for his money.
 

fskimospy

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When it came to Russia, The Feckless One was about as naive as they come. Here's to hoping that Mr. Bombastic doesn't give him a run for his money.

I don't think feckless means what you think it means as Obama is basically the dictionary definition of a responsible man of character.

Anyways I was just pointing out how weird it is that conservatives have fixated on an obviously true statement as if they think it reflects poorly on Obama. Then again ODS is a powerful affliction that even now conservatives can't seem to get over. I guess that's what happens when you have a movement based around identity politics and someone with the wrong identity gets elected.
 

SP33Demon

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Trump wants to meet with Putin one-one with no staff or official record, just the translators.

Trump has defended Putin with the following...

annexation of Crimea
Russia interfering in 2016 election
wants to remove sanctions
wants to let Putin back into the G7
Killing political opponents
Trump did not personally condemn Putin for poisoning on UK soil
Now there has been another poisoning 6 miles from the last one with the same nerve agent. Waiting for source.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...putin-without-aides-present-report/ar-AAzwnIr
Remove Russian sanctions? He was the one who put them in place.
https://www.cnn.com/2018/03/15/poli...ump-yevgeniy-viktorovich-prigozhin/index.html
In addition to those included in Mueller's indictments, sanctions were slapped on two Russian intelligence agencies, the Federal Security Service and the Main Intelligence Directorate, as well as some of their employees.
The administration also accused Moscow of attempting to hack the US energy grid, a previously undisclosed claim that officials said was orchestrated by Russian intelligence.
"The administration is confronting and countering malign Russian cyber activity, including their attempted interference in US elections, destructive cyber-attacks, and intrusions targeting critical infrastructure," said Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin in a statement.
In total, the administration applied new sanctions on five entities and 19 individuals on Thursday, including Russians who posed as Americans and posted content online as part of the IRA's attempts to sow discord ahead of the presidential contest. They came as the US joined European allies in blaming Russia for a nerve agent attack in Britain, deeming the action a "clear violation" of international law.

Also, forgetting that Trump sabre-rattled Putin just 3 months ago?
Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump
Russia vows to shoot down any and all missiles fired at Syria. Get ready Russia, because they will be coming, nice and new and “smart!” You shouldn’t be partners with a Gas Killing Animal who kills his people and enjoys it!
6:57 AM - 11 Apr 2018
Our relationship with Russia is worse now than it has ever been, and that includes the Cold War. There is no reason for this. Russia needs us to help with their economy, something that would be very easy to do, and we need all nations to work together. Stop the arms race?
7:37 AM - Apr 11, 2018

Russia's response:
Responding to Trump's unexpected military attack on Syria in which 59 cruise missiles were launched (of which only 23 allegedly hit their target), Russian President Vladimir Putin "regards the strikes as aggression against a sovereign nation,” his spokesman Dmitry Peskov said, noting that the president believes the strikes were carried out “in violation of international law, and also under an invented pretext.”

The Kremlin spokesman insisted that “the Syrian army doesn’t have chemical weapons,” saying this had been “observed and confirmed by the Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons, a special UN unit.”

The Russian president said he sees the US missile strikes as an attempt to distract attention from civilian casualties in Iraq, Peskov added.

“This step deals significant damage to US-Russian ties, which are already in a deplorable state,” Peskov said and added that the US has been ignoring the use of chemical weapons by terrorists and this is dramatically aggravating the situation, in Putin’s opinion.

“The main thing, Putin believes, is that this move [by the U.S.] doesn’t draw us nearer to the end goal in the fight with international terrorism and on the contrary, deals a serious setback to the creation of an international coalition in the fight with it,” Peskov said.

But yeah, everything is peachy keen b/c o-m-g-collusion! Some people live in a world that's real, and others in a world that's make believe. Only you can have the power to decide which you live in.
Let's break it down point by point:

annexation of Crimea - that's a NATO issue, not US
Russia interfering in 2016 election - see my CNN link above, Trump hit them with new sanctions
wants to remove sanctions - to reiterate Trump just hit them with new sanctions this makes no sense, provide link
wants to let Putin back into the G7 - why wouldn't he? It's an opportunity to make money with a superpower regardless of their behavior, similar to china with previous admins
Killing political opponents - provide link or you're just lying
Trump did not personally condemn Putin for poisoning on UK soil - false, as the CNN link above says: "They [Sanctions] came as the US [yes this means the White House] joined European allies in blaming Russia for a nerve agent attack in Britain, deeming the action a "clear violation" of international law."
 

Younigue

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Remove Russian sanctions? He was the one who put them in place.
https://www.cnn.com/2018/03/15/poli...ump-yevgeniy-viktorovich-prigozhin/index.html


Also, forgetting that Trump sabre-rattled Putin just 3 months ago?


Russia's response:


But yeah, everything is peachy keen b/c o-m-g-collusion! Some people live in a world that's real, and others in a world that's make believe. Only you can have the power to decide which you live in.
Let's break it down point by point:

annexation of Crimea - that's a NATO issue, not US
Russia interfering in 2016 election - see my CNN link above, Trump hit them with new sanctions
wants to remove sanctions - to reiterate Trump just hit them with new sanctions this makes no sense, provide link
wants to let Putin back into the G7 - why wouldn't he? It's an opportunity to make money with a superpower regardless of their behavior, similar to china with previous admins
Killing political opponents - provide link or you're just lying
Trump did not personally condemn Putin for poisoning on UK soil - false, as the CNN link above says: "They [Sanctions] came as the US [yes this means the White House] joined European allies in blaming Russia for a nerve agent attack in Britain, deeming the action a "clear violation" of international law."
So, you've opted for a life of non-reality? Got it!
 

Humpy

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I trust that Putin won't don't anything stupid.

Trump is impotent on his own and incapable of saying anything that these other leaders don't just roll their eyes at.

edit, aww fuck, accidental p&n post.
 

brycejones

Lifer
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So, you've opted for a life of non-reality? Got it!

Is there any other option if you want to maintain the FYGM MAGA attitude that has taken over the GOP?

The sad reality is that as much as speedy brags about shit here the most likely scenario is he weighs 400 lbs and lives on welfare in the back woods but he is unable to come to grips with his lifestyle choices so chooses to adopt an alternate personality here in order to feel better about his wasted life.
 
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Younigue

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I trust that Putin won't don't anything stupid.

Trump is impotent on his own and incapable of saying anything that these other leaders don't just roll their eyes at.
They may be rolling their eyes at him but they're also at minimum using his corrupt traitorous soul against America. Likely capitalizing on it but of course that's assuming Trump isn't actively aiding Putin. He is. Trump is bought and paid for. Putin owns him. If they're meeting privately it's not for gossip sake. Even if Trump doesn't intend to share confidential information or further sell America out Putin knows who he's up against and anticipates getting what he wants, what he doesn't know he wants and more than he wants from a weak minded, low I.Q., petty, corrupt, unjustifiably arrogant, child who LOVES to tell secrets.

However. yeah I think Trump is a eager participant and not just an unwitting traitor though that would be enough.
 

OrByte

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It’s bizarre that he has duped you so thoroughly that even when he’s breaking campaign promises left and right you think he is keeping them.

Where’s the reduced deficit he promised? Where is the better, cheaper health care for everyone he promised? Why did his tax cuts overwhelmingly help the rich when he pledged to do the opposite? Why isn’t Mexico paying for the imaginary wall he isn’t even building?

The only promises he kept were his pledges to do racist and/or xenophobic things. Since those are making the average person worse off, it’s not exactly an accomplishment.
Where are the tax returns that he promised he would share?
 

Younigue

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I trust that Putin won't don't anything stupid.

Trump is impotent on his own and incapable of saying anything that these other leaders don't just roll their eyes at.

edit, aww fuck, accidental p&n post.
nm
 
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OrByte

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I've never understand why conservatives whip themselves up into a frenzy over that statement. What Obama said was undeniably true and we all know it.
cognitive dissonance.

Plus they can't stand that a black President succeeded in so many different ways moreso than any white anglo President before him. Republican or Democrat.
 

Younigue

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Is there any other option if you want to maintain the FYGM MAGA attitude that has taken over the GOP?

The sad reality is that as much as speedy brags about shit here the most likely scenario is he weighs 400 lbs and lives on welfare in the back woods but he is unable to come to grips with his lifestyle choices so chooses to adopt an alternate personality here in order to feel better about his wasted life.
Well, I suspect ALL who support Trump hate their lives, have no one but themselves to blame for it but that's just too hard to accept and far too real so blaming others gets it done. It must be a relief now that Trump picks the [blame] flavor of the week for them. I suspect sticking to their ole standbys was getting monotonous and just treading water but now they've got a new verve about them in their hate game. FU*K IT! MAKE IT A HATE NATION! Now that's something they can get behind and Fu*k without consent! Yeehaw! Everyone not them! It's your own fault for the problems I created for myself and now Trump and I (we) plan to rape you for it. You're gonna wish you had lube! We don't need and pride ourselves on it. But when we do cry about it please be civil? <--- that is how TrumPutinons think, yes?
 
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I don't think feckless means what you think it means as Obama is basically the dictionary definition of a responsible man of character.

Anyways I was just pointing out how weird it is that conservatives have fixated on an obviously true statement as if they think it reflects poorly on Obama. Then again ODS is a powerful affliction that even now conservatives can't seem to get over. I guess that's what happens when you have a movement based around identity politics and someone with the wrong identity gets elected.
The 1980's called....

We talking about the same man?
 

Younigue

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I guess facts elude you. That's pretty sad. You should try to undue your brain defect by conditioning your amygdala to not get triggered when confronted with facts and truth. I'm going to start calling your ilk Ostriches. Congrats, you are ostrich #1!
LOL! Aren't you cute in your name calling game. ... Ya got no game son. But you do have your non-reality to wrap yourself in leaving yourself only hate and Trump jizz to breath in. Careful now, fluid in the lungs can cause you great difficulty. Get out from under your Trump shroud where only garbage people dwell and smell the corruption and treason. I promise, even low I.Qers like yourself can comprehend the basics. I know, I know Fox won't allow you to believe it but I believe it enough for both of us... Or at least I want to.
 
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Trump's probably going to tell Putin that he'll have more flexibility after his re-election.

Different time, different President.

However I’d be okay with that provided it’s to move a deal forward like stop messing with elections or Crimea
I’m concerned because Puti knows exactly how to manipulate Trump into saying something stupid
 
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