POLL: Grab an OEM X1800XT for $299 or a 7900GT for $299?

moonboy403

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i'm rooting for both, but ended up picking x1800 xt since i'm itching to try out their features (hrd+ aa/ hq af)

but i won't be able to get it this time around since i already gone for sli
 

JBT

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I'm having difficulties with this too... I am leaning toward the 7900's as I plan to grab another one in a couple months. I just don't know
 

mazeroth

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Is there a big performance difference between the 256mb and 512mb versions of the X1800XT? I think every review I found for the X1800XT has the 512mb card being benched.

Do you guys have any links where they have the X1800XT and the 7900GT in the same benchmark? I'd really like to try out an ATI card!
 

GullyFoyle

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Originally posted by: mazeroth
Is there a big performance difference between the 256mb and 512mb versions of the X1800XT? I think every review I found for the X1800XT has the 512mb card being benched.

Do you guys have any links where they have the X1800XT and the 7900GT in the same benchmark? I'd really like to try out an ATI card!

TechReport.com
 

jayanath

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im going to go with the7900gt if i were u since the 7900gt has already beaten the 7800gtX
anyway if u can find a 512 version of 1800xt get it it will be better.
On second thought u dont need to upgrade- whats wrong with 7800gt u have
 

Ackmed

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To me, this is just as close as the 7900GTX and X1900XT to decide. Both are about equal in benches, with each having strong points in other areas. Keep in mind, unlike the 7900GTX, the 7900GT is loud. As loud as the X1800XT in fact.

 

tuteja1986

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Personally i would go with X1800XT for its IQ , AVIVO and also HDR with AA but if you wanted to go muti-gpu then you should get 7900GT. But if its 7900GTX vs. X1900XTX then i would go with the x1900xtx as i can overclock it pretty good @ 760/880 with ease and score 13200 3D 2005 Marks. I find it a better option than SLI/Crossfire as i am not a fan of mutli-gup solution anyways. I did have a SLI 7800GTX but its wasn't awesome.
 

the Chase

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Originally posted by: DanDeighan
Originally posted by: mazeroth
Is there a big performance difference between the 256mb and 512mb versions of the X1800XT? I think every review I found for the X1800XT has the 512mb card being benched.

Do you guys have any links where they have the X1800XT and the 7900GT in the same benchmark? I'd really like to try out an ATI card!

TechReport.com

Well I think that is still the 512MB version that they use in that review. I don't think there is much difference between the two versions. May increase with future games. Cod2 is one game that may benefit now from the extra memory. I'm going to vote for the 1800XT for the games I play a lot of.(Bf2, HL2 and DOD-though thats a wash between the 2 cards,and soon COD2). I've had COD2 for awhile now but waiting on new card before I play it.
 

dajo

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I'm not sure about the 256MB x1800 xt but I can tell you that even though I lean towards nVidia I am really glad I got in on the Compusa X1800 XT 512MB card for $299 AR. This card has the most stunning graphics I have ever seen. I first noticed it when I loaded up Doom 3 - wow! I know that game, and I've played it with many cards (x800 xl, 6800 ultra, 7800gt, x850 pro). With the X1800 I get a depth of color and detail that I have never seen. Half Life Coast, with HDR full, and everything pumped is also a joy to experience.

I'm not trying to start yet another nVidia/ATI war (we've seen enough of those, right?), and, like I said, I tend to gravitate to nVidia over the long run, but, man! This x1800 has sweet, sweet graphics like I have never seen before in any card.

This is a great time for gamers if you got the wallet for it!!!
 

the Chase

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Originally posted by: dajo
I'm not sure about the 256MB x1800 xt but I can tell you that even though I lean towards nVidia I am really glad I got in on the Compusa X1800 XT 512MB card for $299 AR. This card has the most stunning graphics I have ever seen. I first noticed it when I loaded up Doom 3 - wow! I know that game, and I've played it with many cards (x800 xl, 6800 ultra, 7800gt, x850 pro). With the X1800 I get a depth of color and detail that I have never seen. Half Life Coast, with HDR full, and everything pumped is also a joy to experience.

I'm not trying to start yet another nVidia/ATI war (we've seen enough of those, right?), and, like I said, I tend to gravitate to nVidia over the long run, but, man! This x1800 has sweet, sweet graphics like I have never seen before in any card.

This is a great time for gamers if you got the wallet for it!!!

AAArrrggg....don't do this to me!! I'm waiting for the FedEx truck to arrive anytime now today to deliver mine! Going from a 12 pipe GTO to this and looking forward to 1600x1200 w/max detail and still playable!!

The carpeting is going to be worn down to the mat from my pacing...
 

5150Joker

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Originally posted by: Ackmed
To me, this is just as close as the 7900GTX and X1900XT to decide. Both are about equal in benches, with each having strong points in other areas. Keep in mind, unlike the 7900GTX, the 7900GT is loud. As loud as the X1800XT in fact.



I think it's ridiculous that people (not you specifically ackmed) equate a $330 factory OC'd GT that most likely requires another $30 for an aftermarket cooler ($360 total) to a $299 X1800XT that is stock. They aren't equal, at stock the X1800 XT whips the 7900 GT's butt in every D3D game out there and comes close in OGL, has much better HQ AF, HDR+AA and software voltage control support. Plus the X1800 XT doesn't need an aftermarket cooler so once you pay $299 you're done.

Why do people give nVidia a $30-$60 leeway just to maintain performance and cooling parity with a cheaper X1800 XT yet don't give the nod to the X1900 XTX being superior to the 7900 GTX? With this rationale, the X1900 XT/XTX should be allowed to be priced $50+ higher than a 7900 GTX since it's somewhat faster in D3D at stock clocks and has better features/IQ.
 

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Originally posted by: 5150Joker
I think it's ridiculous that people equate a $330 factory OC'd GT that requires another $30 for an aftermarket cooler ($360 total) to a $299 X1800XT that is stock. They aren't equal, at stock the X1800 XT whips the 7900 GT's butt in every D3D game out there and comes close in OGL, has much better HQ AF, HDR+AA and software voltage control support. Plus the X1800 XT doesn't require an aftermarket cooler unlike the GT so once you pay $299 you're done.

Why do people give nVidia a $60 leeway just to maintain performance and cooling parity with a cheaper X1800 XT yet don't give the nod to the X1900 XTX being superior to the 7900 GTX? With this rationale, the X1900 XT/XTX should be allowed to be priced $50+ higher than a 7900 GTX since it's somewhat faster in D3D at stock clocks and has better features/IQ.
You are asking a rhetorical question? Because the answers are obvious brudda, Hypocrisy and brand loyalty.

I do have to point out that saying the 7900GT requires aftermarket cooling is a bit of a stretch though. Unless the card isn't stable with the supplied cooler, aftermarket cooling would be optional </nit picking>

 

5150Joker

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Originally posted by: DAPUNISHER
Originally posted by: 5150Joker
I think it's ridiculous that people equate a $330 factory OC'd GT that requires another $30 for an aftermarket cooler ($360 total) to a $299 X1800XT that is stock. They aren't equal, at stock the X1800 XT whips the 7900 GT's butt in every D3D game out there and comes close in OGL, has much better HQ AF, HDR+AA and software voltage control support. Plus the X1800 XT doesn't require an aftermarket cooler unlike the GT so once you pay $299 you're done.

Why do people give nVidia a $60 leeway just to maintain performance and cooling parity with a cheaper X1800 XT yet don't give the nod to the X1900 XTX being superior to the 7900 GTX? With this rationale, the X1900 XT/XTX should be allowed to be priced $50+ higher than a 7900 GTX since it's somewhat faster in D3D at stock clocks and has better features/IQ.
You are asking a rhetorical question? Because the answers are obvious brudda, Hypocrisy and brand loyalty.

I do have to point out that saying the 7900GT requires aftermarket cooling is a bit of a stretch though. Unless the card isn't stable with the supplied cooler, aftermarket cooling would be optional </nit picking>


True not required but most people that will want to OC the thing will switch out the cooler for something better. Even at $30 more it's not the same price point and has less features.
 

Avalon

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I'd have to go with the X1800XT. The 7900GT performs basically like a very mildly overclocked 7800GTX, which the X1800XT is definitely faster than. After taking into equation having less memory than normal, it should still be slightly faster.
 

dajo

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Originally posted by: the Chase
Originally posted by: dajo
I'm not sure about the 256MB x1800 xt but I can tell you that even though I lean towards nVidia I am really glad I got in on the Compusa X1800 XT 512MB card for $299 AR. This card has the most stunning graphics I have ever seen. I first noticed it when I loaded up Doom 3 - wow! I know that game, and I've played it with many cards (x800 xl, 6800 ultra, 7800gt, x850 pro). With the X1800 I get a depth of color and detail that I have never seen. Half Life Coast, with HDR full, and everything pumped is also a joy to experience.

I'm not trying to start yet another nVidia/ATI war (we've seen enough of those, right?), and, like I said, I tend to gravitate to nVidia over the long run, but, man! This x1800 has sweet, sweet graphics like I have never seen before in any card.

This is a great time for gamers if you got the wallet for it!!!

AAArrrggg....don't do this to me!! I'm waiting for the FedEx truck to arrive anytime now today to deliver mine! Going from a 12 pipe GTO to this and looking forward to 1600x1200 w/max detail and still playable!!

The carpeting is going to be worn down to the mat from my pacing...
Anticipation makes something all the sweeter once you finally have it! You'll get some great performance with your Opteron 146@2.94GHz.


 

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Originally posted by: 5150Joker
True not required but most people that will want to OC the thing will switch out the cooler for something better. Even at $30 more it's not the same price point and has less features.
ATI based cards in higher performance ranges are the best products available, no doubt about it.

 

tuteja1986

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Originally posted by: 5150Joker
Originally posted by: DAPUNISHER
Originally posted by: 5150Joker
I think it's ridiculous that people equate a $330 factory OC'd GT that requires another $30 for an aftermarket cooler ($360 total) to a $299 X1800XT that is stock. They aren't equal, at stock the X1800 XT whips the 7900 GT's butt in every D3D game out there and comes close in OGL, has much better HQ AF, HDR+AA and software voltage control support. Plus the X1800 XT doesn't require an aftermarket cooler unlike the GT so once you pay $299 you're done.

Why do people give nVidia a $60 leeway just to maintain performance and cooling parity with a cheaper X1800 XT yet don't give the nod to the X1900 XTX being superior to the 7900 GTX? With this rationale, the X1900 XT/XTX should be allowed to be priced $50+ higher than a 7900 GTX since it's somewhat faster in D3D at stock clocks and has better features/IQ.
You are asking a rhetorical question? Because the answers are obvious brudda, Hypocrisy and brand loyalty.

I do have to point out that saying the 7900GT requires aftermarket cooling is a bit of a stretch though. Unless the card isn't stable with the supplied cooler, aftermarket cooling would be optional </nit picking>


True not required but most people that will want to OC the thing will switch out the cooler for something better. Even at $30 more it's not the same price point and has less features.

I agree with you . x1800xt oc vs 7900GT OC = winner x1800xt oc in all 3D games at high res. Check out the Firing squad review that did review alot of games at high and it isn't rubbish like anandtech review. Or just wait for XBIT Labs and Rage 3D review to find the real winner as they those reviewed aren?t rushed or biased to any brand.
 

RussianSensation

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At stock, I'd pick X1800XT since it outperforms 7800GTX 256mb and thus the 7900GT. If you can get a preoverclocked 550/1600+ 7900GT for close to $330, I'd get that instead since that puts it very new 7800GTX 512mb speeds. I am not sure how well X1800XT's overclock but I think some people hit 700/1600 clockspeeds. It's a close call. If quality AF is important to you, I'd go with ATI.
 

Hacp

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I'm not sure about the 7800GT. I wonder how it overclocks. Btw, doens't the 7800GTX 512 have 1.8GHZ on the memory? I don't think the 7900GT has that much headroom on the memory.

Keep in mind that once you start overclocking the Nvidia cards, the huge power advantage Nvidia has becomes way less huge.
 

Wreckage

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The OEM card will have little or no warranty. While you can get the GT with a lifetime warranty.
 

5150Joker

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Originally posted by: Wreckage
The OEM card will have little or no warranty. While you can get the GT with a lifetime warranty.

OEM has standard sapphire warranty while getting a GT w/lifetime warranty will only increase its price.
 

CaiNaM

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i already ordered the x1800xt...

not that it's better, but i like ati's HiQ AF feature and higher AA modes, and avivo seems to be at least slightly > purevideo.

if dual gfx cards is something you want to pursue, nvidia is the clear choice there (ati is more cumbersome, requiring a master card and most likely a new mb with slower performing/buggy/poor feature southbridge), at least for me - but not something i am pursuing anytime soon.

that, and i already have a GT so it's time to play with something different
 

Wreckage

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Originally posted by: 5150Joker
Originally posted by: Wreckage
The OEM card will have little or no warranty. While you can get the GT with a lifetime warranty.

OEM has standard sapphire warranty while getting a GT w/lifetime warranty will only increase its price.

Where does it say that? What is the warranty? Many OEM parts only carry a 30 day warranty.
 
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