poll- how many of you will not be voting because your candidate has no chance of winning in your state?

[BlahBlahYouToo]

i do not wish to turn this into a p&n type thread, but just to discuss the current voting system and how if affects whether you plan to vote or not.

for example, my state is a predominant blue state. i would like to vote for the "other nominee" but because he has no chance of winning in my state, i am not going to bother.

personally, i think there are a lot of people who feel this way and this may or may not affect the outcome of the race. it's not as close as it was last time around.
the electoral college was an idea implemented back in the day, but it's outdated now and i don't see a reason to not go to a popular vote system.

in an electoral system, if a candidate gets 51% of votes in CA, he gets ALL 55 electoral votes. how is that fair?

 

[BigJ]

What if you have a close election with a popular vote system? Do you go back and recount all ballots in every state?

 

[HardcoreRobot]

i will vote regardless of my state
i think we should enable internet voting in addition to traditional voting and let the popular vote decide

 

[Pacemaker]

It should be done by popular vote or at least give percentages of electoral votes (based on the percent of the popular vote in the state) instead of 100% (like some states do now).

 

[DisgruntledVirus]

I will vote partially because I am in a swing state (Ohio), but also because I believe that you shouldn't criticize the administration if you didn't vote.

Great example is a year or two back Ohio had a public smoking ban up for vote. It passed, making smoking in any public area illegal. So of course all the smokers were ticked about their "rights". First question asked would be "did you vote?" most of the time the answer is "no". Okay then shut up.

I also would rather at least help my candidate get my state. Even if I am a "safe" state, there is a chance it won't be a "safe" state.

I am generally against the electoral college as well FWIW.

 

[BlahBlahYouToo]

Originally posted by: BigJ
What if you have a close election with a popular vote system? Do you go back and recount all ballots in every state?

really? is this a problem?
i would think with our technology, this would not be a problem at all.

 

[Anubis]

I?m voting but not for either of the 2 main candidates, because they are both giant pieces of fucking shit

 

[DisgruntledVirus]

Originally posted by: BigJ
What if you have a close election with a popular vote system? Do you go back and recount all ballots in every state?

Keep the college as a fall back.

If you are close enough use the college as a tie-breaker, otherwise use popular vote.

 

[BigJ]

Originally posted by: BlahBlahYouToo

Originally posted by: BigJ
What if you have a close election with a popular vote system? Do you go back and recount all ballots in every state?

really? is this a problem?
i would think with our technology, this would not be a problem at all.

Have you been in a coma for approximately the past decade?

 

[BlahBlahYouToo]

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: BlahBlahYouToo

Originally posted by: BigJ
What if you have a close election with a popular vote system? Do you go back and recount all ballots in every state?

really? is this a problem?
i would think with our technology, this would not be a problem at all.

Have you been in a coma for approximately the past decade?

what, the florida situation? so?

 

[Balr0g]

Originally posted by: Anubis
I?m voting but not for either of the 2 main candidates, because they are both giant pieces of fucking shit

But then your vote is about as useful as if you don't vote anyway.

 

[MikeyIs4Dcats]

Those who do not vote have no right to complain.

For those who indicate they don't vote because of the electroral college, why would anyone ever consider a change unless the people start showing that the popular vote in a state disagrees with the electoral college?

 

[Baked]

You made it sound it the whole ballot only has 1 question. There are many issues you can vote on besides a bunch people fighting their way into corporate fund riches.

 

[Anubis]

Originally posted by: Balr0g

Originally posted by: Anubis
I?m voting but not for either of the 2 main candidates, because they are both giant pieces of fucking shit

But then your vote is about as useful as if you don't vote anyway.

yes but if i dont vote i get yelled at when i bitch about who wins because i didnt vote

 

[BlahBlahYouToo]

Originally posted by: MikeyIs4Dcats
Those who do not vote have no right to complain.

For those who indicate they don't vote because of the electroral college, why would anyone ever consider a change unless the people start showing that the popular vote in a state disagrees with the electoral college?

well, because it would be pretty hard to prove.
how do you account for all the people that don't vote just for this reason?

the real question is, what are the advantages of a electoral system vs. popular?
popular is fair, why aren't we using it?

 

[Fritzo]

That's the dumbest reason I've ever heard for not voting.

"Polls of 1000 people look skewed to one side, so I'm not going to vote."

 

[MagnusTheBrewer]

Not voting for ANY reason is a low life anti-American epic fail.

 

[nakedfrog]

Originally posted by: BlahBlahYouToo

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: BlahBlahYouToo

Originally posted by: BigJ
What if you have a close election with a popular vote system? Do you go back and recount all ballots in every state?

really? is this a problem?
i would think with our technology, this would not be a problem at all.

Have you been in a coma for approximately the past decade?

what, the florida situation? so?

Are you familiar with the Diebold situation?

 

[ViviTheMage]

popular vote, screw the electoral college crap.

 

[Kev]

I'm not voting because my vote will never have an effect on any election, so it is a waste of time.

 

[BlahBlahYouToo]

Originally posted by: nakedfrog

Originally posted by: BlahBlahYouToo

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: BlahBlahYouToo

Originally posted by: BigJ
What if you have a close election with a popular vote system? Do you go back and recount all ballots in every state?

really? is this a problem?
i would think with our technology, this would not be a problem at all.

Have you been in a coma for approximately the past decade?

what, the florida situation? so?

Are you familiar with the Diebold situation?

no, i am not.

 

[Aikouka]

Originally posted by: Anubis
I?m voting but not for either of the 2 main candidates, because they are both giant pieces of fucking shit

Yeah they are... the last three elections have been an utter farce of politics. You should all just write me in (even though I don't meet the age requirement)... or better yet, RossMAN for president?

 

[MagnusTheBrewer]

Originally posted by: Kev
I'm not voting because my vote will never have an effect on any election, so it is a waste of time.

Yeah, you're never going to win in life either so, you might as well kill yourself now.

 

[BlahBlahYouToo]

Originally posted by: Kev
I'm not voting because my vote will never have an effect on any election, so it is a waste of time.

in a popular system, every vote will count.

 

[Kev]

Originally posted by: MagnusTheBrewer

Originally posted by: Kev
I'm not voting because my vote will never have an effect on any election, so it is a waste of time.

Yeah, you're never going to win in life either so, you might as well kill yourself now.

Nice reading comprehension. I didn't say win, I said "have an effect."