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MrSquished

Lifer
Jan 14, 2013
22,833
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Yeah, the nice thing about being an affluent straight white guy is that it's much easier to just say "I don't burden myself with politics". Well, one of the many nice things...
Yeah I'm missing the affluent part lol

But I would still care. Progressive values run through my veins, and have so since I was a kid. Fuck the rich white patriarchy, and fuck the entire GQP party.

Let's beat Trump!
 

IronWing

No Lifer
Jul 20, 2001
70,008
28,534
136
Yeah, the nice thing about being an affluent straight white guy is that it's much easier to just say "I don't burden myself with politics". Well, one of the many nice things...
I don't know anything else about his demographics so I didn't comment on that. You are right though.
 

nakedfrog

No Lifer
Apr 3, 2001
59,000
13,474
136
Yeah I'm missing the affluent part lol

But I would still care. Progressive values run through my veins, and have so since I was a kid. Fuck the rich white patriarchy, and fuck the entire GQP party.

Let's beat Trump!
Not me, I was a misanthropic teen, and if you hate everyone, the Republican party represents that much better. It was a journey, but I'm (generally) a much kinder and compassionate person these days.
 
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Muse

Lifer
Jul 11, 2001
38,211
8,532
136
Not me, I was a misanthropic teen, and if you hate everyone, the Republican party represents that much better. It was a journey, but I'm (generally) a much kinder and compassionate person these days.
I am continually amazed at what I'm capable of, I surprise myself. Certainly I don't think I've figured myself out completely or anything like that.

I can be utterly misanthropic, but my politics have never been about being against people.
 
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dank69

Lifer
Oct 6, 2009
35,951
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Your being sarcastic, surely...
It's an ongoing joke because anytime a Republican is accused of anything that piece of dogshit poster @Greenman will 100% claim we can't know if they're guilty until proven in a court of law and even when it has been he'll claim "no, not like that!"

But then he'll assume the worst about any Democrat anywhere despite there being no solid evidence and no trial let alone a conviction.
 

Muse

Lifer
Jul 11, 2001
38,211
8,532
136
It's an ongoing joke because anytime a Republican is accused of anything that piece of dogshit poster @Greenman will 100% claim we can't know if they're guilty until proven in a court of law and even when it has been he'll claim "no, not like that!"

But then he'll assume the worst about any Democrat anywhere despite there being no solid evidence and no trial let alone a conviction.
Devil's advocate complex.
 

brycejones

Lifer
Oct 18, 2005
27,381
26,291
136
Your being sarcastic, surely...
Did you know Harris slept her way to the top? She even blackmailed Willie Brown after seducing him while he was a married man. Shit greenman has heard and believes about Democrats.


(Harris and Brown had a relationship after brown had been separated from his wife for years)
 

Muse

Lifer
Jul 11, 2001
38,211
8,532
136
Did you know Harris slept her way to the top? She even blackmailed Willie Brown after seducing him while he was a married man. Shit greenman has heard and believes about Democrats.


(Harris and Brown had a relationship after brown had been separated from his wife for years)
I have heard this rumor about her but AFAIK it's innuendo more than fact. Having a romantic relationship doesn't mean she "slept her way to the top." Frankly, I think if that were true she wouldn't be VP. Refraining from having sexual relationships does not make a person virtuous, conversely.

Edit: Anyway, I thought we were talking about whether SS did a shitty job at the Rally. What's the connection?
 

hal2kilo

Lifer
Feb 24, 2009
23,997
10,718
136
Did you know Harris slept her way to the top? She even blackmailed Willie Brown after seducing him while he was a married man. Shit greenman has heard and believes about Democrats.


(Harris and Brown had a relationship after brown had been separated from his wife for years)
Typical Republican look over there, not in your own house. Trump is an adjudicated rapist, but Kamala might have had a perfectly acceptable relationship. You can't make this shit up.
 

MrSquished

Lifer
Jan 14, 2013
22,833
20,922
136
Not me, I was a misanthropic teen, and if you hate everyone, the Republican party represents that much better. It was a journey, but I'm (generally) a much kinder and compassionate person these days.
There are a lot of factors at play - where you grew up and who raised you could be two.

I was raised not far from NYC, and we went there since we were little kids, and I was exposed to lots of diversity and culture. I think that can help a lot. A lot of the kids I know from that town all turned out MAGA - so it depends who raised them, and a lot of people don't even go to the city even when they are just 20 miles away.

I had a father who I did not like much, but he was very progressive and educated and I saw the value in those values, and I thank him for sharing them.

But yet I still have implicit bias. I think racist thoughts. Those were all given to me by society, by our systemically racist system. Because they did not come from my upbringing nor from a lack of exposure to diversity, though I didn't live in it, which is kind of a big deal. My town was basically all white, large Jewish population, some Asians, and like ten black people.
 
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dank69

Lifer
Oct 6, 2009
35,951
30,132
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There are a lot of factors at play - where you grew up and who raised you could be two.

I was raised not far from NYC, and we went there since we were little kids, and I was exposed to lots of diversity and culture. I think that can help a lot. A lot of the kids I know from that town all turned out MAGA - so it depends who raised them, and a lot of people don't even go to the city even when they are just 20 miles away.

I had a father who I did not like much, but he was very progressive and educated and I saw the value in those values, and I thank him for sharing them.

But yet I still have implicit bias. I think racist thoughts. Those were all given to me by society, by our systemically racist system. Because they did not come from my upbringing nor from a lack of exposure to diversity, though I didn't live in it, which is kind of a big deal. My town was basically all white, large Jewish population, some Asians, and like ten black people.
Those thoughts often creep in subconsciously via all manner of vectors. Movies/TV, peers, etc. Very often so subtle you'll never remember the details of the experience, but enough of them collectively completely alter your thinking without you knowing it. That's why it's important to be conscious that it is constantly happening, and you need to be as aware as possible of the tactics that can be used to manipulate people.

Many aren't up to the task. Many don't care to be. Most aren't aware at all.
 
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brycejones

Lifer
Oct 18, 2005
27,381
26,291
136
I have heard this rumor about her but AFAIK it's innuendo more than fact. Having a romantic relationship doesn't mean she "slept her way to the top." Frankly, I think if that were true she wouldn't be VP. Refraining from having sexual relationships does not make a person virtuous, conversely.

Edit: Anyway, I thought we were talking about whether SS did a shitty job at the Rally. What's the connection?
We were talking about Zin's response to Felix, that's the connection. BTW it's a fact she had a relationship with Brown. But it was just that a normal relationship. The whole "slept her way to the top" trope is one that has been repeated by multiple conservative posters here as a reason they can't stand her.
 
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Muse

Lifer
Jul 11, 2001
38,211
8,532
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We were talking about Zin's response to Felix, that's the connection. BTW it's a fact she had a relationship with Brown. But it was just that a normal relationship. The whole "slept her way to the top" trope is one that has been repeated by multiple conservative posters here as a reason they can't stand her.
They're probably highly biased and misogynistic to boot.
 
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