POLL: If Pot were legalized, would you smoke it?

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bugsysiegel

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Dunno if I would or not, depends on the stance the management at the factory I work at took on it. If they wouldn't pop me on a urinalysis, I might try it.
 

XeonTux

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like the legality of it ever stopped me.. ok it has stopped me a couple times, like when a cop walks up
 

Oakenfold

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Nope, weed is boring, all it ever made me do was sleep and vomit(yes while awake). Funny how drugs affect everyone differently.

<< Getting high and driving is not dangerous..at all. >>

DO NOT SMOKE WEED AND DRIVE, I have no idea what kind of Weed that AT'er has been buying but he's been getting ripped off. A Drug is a substance that affects your body whether mentally or physically, don't get into a car while you are under the influence of any narcotic. Treat drugs with the respect that they deserve.
 

Phuz

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kgraeme, one of the big reasons cigarettes are WAY more carcinogenic than pot is due to the high contents of radium that is used to fertilize the leafs.
That in turn comes out in your smoke, too.

Oakenfold, the difference between smoking and driving and drinking and driving is this.

Marijuana is not an intoxicant nor is it something that impairs you.
Police field sobriety tests that are used to test driving skills will NEVER catch a marijuana user, simply because things like balance and vision aren't affected.


 

Oakenfold

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<< Marijuana is not an intoxicant nor is it something that impairs you. >>

Ummmmmm suuuuuuuuure. It does impair your ability to have a clear mind, anything that is altering is a drug no? I really have no idea what kind of pot some of you smoke but when I did use drugs I would not be able to operate a motor vehicle(yes that's right just off POT), I know many people that cannot and should not operate motor vehicles after smoking pot, just because you may have built a tolerance up should not lead you to give people advice to get stoned and drive cars, remember drugs affect people differently, I'd hate to have on my mind that someone died because they took some advice to heart they should not have. Not trying to start a flame war here. I got love for everyone!
 

jobberd

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<< Ummmmmm suuuuuuuuure. It does impair your ability to have a clear mind, anything that is altering is a drug no? I really have no idea what kind of pot some of you smoke but when I did use drugs I would not be able to operate a motor vehicle(yes that's right just off POT), I know many people that cannot and should not operate motor vehicles after smoking pot, just because you may have built a tolerance up should not lead you to give people advice to get stoned and drive cars, remember drugs affect people differently, I'd hate to have on my mind that someone died because they took some advice to heart they should not have. Not trying to start a flame war here. I got love for everyone! >>

While I would prefer it if marijuana was placed under the same regulations as alcohol if it were legalized, It is not nearly as bad as alcohol
 

Oakenfold

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Oops forgot to say what side I'm on, yes I am for federal regualation of weed(actually for most drugs). Wonder what kind of tax bill they would use or if they would just stick it along with smokes and drinks?
 

Netopia

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Nope..... I'm a recovered Pot-a-holic.

When I decided to give up smoking dope about 15 years ago I was paying way more for herb every month than I was for my apartment's rent! I was never satisfied just catching a buzz... I wanted to toke until either the refer was gone or I couldn't stop coughing when I took a hit. I should also mention that I was pretty lethargic too... no real ambition, living pay check to pay check and not going anywhere.

Even if it were legal, I couldn't touch it.

Joe
 

Phuz

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Oakenfold, I didn't imply anything of the sort. Don't put words in my mouth.

 

Lioness

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Legalize it...no! That's all we need is another OTC mind altering drug on the market. It becomes tempting and accessible for everyone. However, I believe, if it isn't already, it should be a misdemeanor charge with an arrest only if you become a menace to society while under the influence. IMHO this may be the best way to prevent abuse of the drug.

In my younger days when I was a frequent smoker I personally found MJ to be a gateway drug and psychologically addicting. A "gateway drug" because I enjoyed the high from smoking so much that I became curious as to what other mind altering drugs offered. "Psychologically addicting": Like many things in life, it's difficult to stop doing something you enjoy very much.

Some people can still function at a high level and are lots of fun while on MJ or alcohol. Others become a menace to society. In this respect it's no different than alcohol.

As I got older and was faced with more responsibilities in my life, et. al. family, MJ became an interference rather than a pleasure.



 

jobberd

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<< Legalize it...no! That's all we need is another OTC mind altering drug on the market. It becomes tempting and accessible for everyone. However, I believe, if it isn't already, it should be a misdemeanor charge with an arrest only if you become a menace to society while under the influence. IMHO this may be the best way to prevent abuse of the drug. >>

Most studies show that if marijuana was legalized, there would be no huge increase in marijuana smokers. Yes, your method is an effective way to prevent abuse of the drug, but it still penalizes milions of responsible smokers

<< In my younger days when I was a frequent smoker I personally found MJ to be a gateway drug and psychologically addicting. A "gateway drug" because I enjoyed the high from smoking so much that I became curious as to what other mind altering drugs offered. "Psychologically addicting": Like many things in life, it's difficult to stop doing something you enjoy very much. >>

I find many people who oppose the legalization of marijuana argue with their own personal anecdotes. Marijuana has never been proved to be a gateway drug. And yes, like many things in life, it's difficult to stop doing something you enjoy very much. This doesn't mean that it should be grounds for illegalization

<< Some people can still function at a high level and are lots of fun while on MJ or alcohol. Others become a menace to society. In this respect it's no different than alcohol. >>

Wrong. It's much safer then alcohol, in the fact that it generally promotes passive behaviour, unlike alcohol which has a history of lowering inhibitions and causing many fights or violent activities. Not to mention alcohol kills 50,000 people anually from alcohol poisoning while marijuana is nontoxic and has yet to directly kill anyone.

<< As I got older and was faced with more responsibilities in my life, et. al. family, MJ became an interference rather than a pleasure. >>

Other people can still enjoy it responsibly, however. Why deny them that?
 

Lioness

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Jabberd:

To quote you:
?Most studies show that if marijuana was legalized, there would be no huge increase in marijuana smokers.? ?I find many people who oppose the legalization of marijuana argue with their own personal anecdotes.?

Since MJ is not legal, most studies of this nature can only be hypothetical. I believe my ?personal anecdote? observation is more accurate than most hypothetical studies. And of course, I?ll tell you why . During the 60?s I attended Woodstock, Strawberry Fields, and Watkins Glen festivals. I also regularly attended many concerts and nightclubs. A few examples are The Beatles, Stones, Hendrix, Fillmore East & West, and Electric Circus. In essence, I observed large masses of people in environments where drugs flowed freely. Thousands of those people tried MJ for the first time. Why? Heck, why not? It was not only conveniently available in a nonlegalized atmosphere but many young people are generally curious. That?s a fact. (Yes, drugs were illegal, but not always enforced under these conditions to avoid the potential of mass rioting.)

And for those who had a history of smoking MJ, many went to stronger mind-expanding drugs. That gateway WAS a fact. This doesn?t necessarily prove that a person living in a hypothetical legalized MJ society today would move through that gateway to a stronger drug. That would be more difficult, simply because that stronger mind expanding drug is illegal and thereby it?s controlled.

However, here is MY hypothetical situation with the legalization of MJ: Your sitting at a bar and the bartender says, ?Were running a special tonight, two for the price of one. Would you like some fine wine with your MJ?? Sure. Just lay it down next to my sprinkled MJ nachos. Now we have two readily available, combinable social drugs. That's dangerous in any society. As you said,
?And yes, like many things in life, it's difficult to stop doing something you enjoy very much. This doesn't mean that it should be grounds for illegalization.?

I am not going to debate with you, which is the lesser of two evils, alcohol or MJ. There are studies that can go either way. IMHO any new drug introduced into society without any controls leads the door open for abuse. And I know you?re not naive to believe that an MJ/alcohol cocktail freely available to the masses would not become a serious problem.
 

jobberd

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<< Jabberd:

To quote you:
?Most studies show that if marijuana was legalized, there would be no huge increase in marijuana smokers.? ?I find many people who oppose the legalization of marijuana argue with their own personal anecdotes.?

Since MJ is not legal, most studies of this nature can only be hypothetical. I believe my ?personal anecdote? observation is more accurate than most hypothetical studies. And of course, I?ll tell you why . During the 60?s I attended Woodstock, Strawberry Fields, and Watkins Glen festivals. I also regularly attended many concerts and nightclubs. A few examples are The Beatles, Stones, Hendrix, Fillmore East & West, and Electric Circus. In essence, I observed large masses of people in environments where drugs flowed freely. Thousands of those people tried MJ for the first time. Why? Heck, why not? It was not only conveniently available in a nonlegalized atmosphere but many young people are generally curious. That?s a fact. (Yes, drugs were illegal, but not always enforced under these conditions to avoid the potential of mass rioting.)
>>

People are going to experiment with things whether it is legal or not. Go to any modern concert and you'll most likely see tons of people doing drugs there. I don't see how this proves that marijuana use would increase substantially. As for these hypothetical studies, I'm pretty sure they realize that people in fact did drugs during these concerts. And they also look at many other perspectives. And don't forget Netherlands. A poll done in 1999 shows that 15.6% of people have ever tried marijuana compared to the 34.2% that have tried it in America. Many times, prohibition only increases the use of a drug simply because of the fact that it is illegal. Click here for more information

<< And for those who had a history of smoking MJ, many went to stronger mind-expanding drugs. That gateway WAS a fact. This doesn?t necessarily prove that a person living in a hypothetical legalized MJ society today would move through that gateway to a stronger drug. That would be more difficult, simply because that stronger mind expanding drug is illegal and thereby it?s controlled. >>

And guess what? I bet many kids tried hamburgers before they tried marijuana. Does this make hamburgers some kind of gateway food? Of course not. Anything that has a large base of users can be made to look as if it is a gateway drug. For more information on that, click here

<< However, here is MY hypothetical situation with the legalization of MJ: Your sitting at a bar and the bartender says, ?Were running a special tonight, two for the price of one. Would you like some fine wine with your MJ?? Sure. Just lay it down next to my sprinkled MJ nachos. Now we have two readily available, combinable social drugs. That's dangerous in any society. >>

How is this dangerous to society? If anything, marijuana calms the alcohol user down making him/her not so violent. With all these dangers that marijuana brings to society, it's a real wonder how Amsterdam still manages to stay as a successful country.

<< I am not going to debate with you, which is the lesser of two evils, alcohol or MJ. There are studies that can go either way. IMHO any new drug introduced into society without any controls leads the door open for abuse. And I know you?re not naive to believe that an MJ/alcohol cocktail freely available to the masses would not become a serious problem. >>

You have shown me no studies that go the other way. And marijuana is hardly a 'new drug'. Of course there will be rules and regulations for it. And again, there will most likely not be a giant increase in marijuana users. Most people who will smoke marijuana after it is legalized will have tried marijuana already
 

renfield33

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as a doctor, i don't think smoking weed the night before going to work would be good for malpractice. never smoked weed... i don't even like being drunk... i think i am a control freak
 
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