Poll: Is our country more or less safe now vs Jan 20 2017

HomerJS

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For me Bolton pushes it over the top. IMO some really bad shit will go down before the end of this year.
 

NostaSeronx

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The country is safer, no worries, nothing bad will happen. I have it all calculated, 110% nothing bad will happen. Intel will release good products, AMD will release good products, and Nvidia will release good products. Aliens will visit and declare the world theirs, and we will all live in intergalactic peace.


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BonzaiDuck

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One of several theories I have for a future under Traitor-in-Chief: He and Bolton will attack North Korea. North Korea will respond with missiles that hit West Coast metro-plexes. Trump will later declare that he can "really" win the popular vote, now that Democrats on the Left Coast have been incinerated.
 
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HomerJS

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One of several theories I have for a future under Traitor-in-Chief: He and Bolton will attack North Korea. North Korea will respond with missiles that hit West Coast metro-plexes. Trump will later declare that he can "really" win the popular vote, now that Democrats on the Left Coast have been incinerated.
I cringed and laughed at the same time
 

Genx87

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Apr 8, 2002
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From a national security perspective I don't think much has changed. But I think from an economic standpoint we are looking at a worse situation as twitter in chief sends us into a trade world war.
 

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From a national security perspective I don't think much has changed. But I think from an economic standpoint we are looking at a worse situation as twitter in chief sends us into a trade world war.

We're on our third national security adviser in 15 months, our 2nd secretary of state, and have a completely gutted and morale'less state department. We are facing cyber security threats from multiple nations, trading tweet insults over the size of nuclear buttons with aspiring nuclear powers. Cozying up with the Saudis that just executed essentially a coup on their previous administration. Flattering dictators around the world. And instead of actually doing anything the CIC spends his time tweeting about his campaign victory, defending himself against his sexual history and just making an absolute mockery of our country.

No. I do not feel like we've got a good hand on the wheel at this time.
 

UglyCasanova

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Mar 25, 2001
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What do you mean is the country safer? As in are we about to go to war or whether individually we might encounter violence? Or something different?
 

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What do you mean is the country safer? As in are we about to go to war or whether individually we might encounter violence? Or something different?

Well, if you you are white, christian, a male, and not in any sort of education environment you should feel pretty safe domestically.
 

Genx87

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We're on our third national security adviser in 15 months, our 2nd secretary of state, and have a completely gutted and morale'less state department. We are facing cyber security threats from multiple nations, trading tweet insults over the size of nuclear buttons with aspiring nuclear powers. Cozying up with the Saudis that just executed essentially a coup on their previous administration. Flattering dictators around the world. And instead of actually doing anything the CIC spends his time tweeting about his campaign victory, defending himself against his sexual history and just making an absolute mockery of our country.

No. I do not feel like we've got a good hand on the wheel at this time.

This is all true but do I feel less safe? No...

No nation or group is going to attack us anymore than they were the day before Drumpf is going to take office.
 

jackstar7

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Don't count out Iran as a potential target. NK would have China's full attention. Iran... not nearly as much.
 

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This is all true but do I feel less safe? No...

No nation or group is going to attack us anymore than they were the day before Drumpf is going to take office.

For me it's more of how the pieces are lining up on a global scale. We've gutted our state department, shit all over a number of our close allies, and have an incredibly unstable President with some equally unstable and inexperienced staff and advisers surrounding him. My job and role is working on contingency plans and dealing with "what if's". The contingency and "what if's" under this administration scare the crap out of me.
 

Indus

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May 11, 2002
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LOL way less safe. Putin wouldn't have the balls against Obama to point nukes at Florida but he's outright advertising it and using his lapdog in the White House.

I wouldn't be surprised if he just took Alaska back.
 

Sunburn74

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Oct 5, 2009
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President bone spurs thinks transgender people who have actually served in the military and fought alongside US soldiers aren't good soldiers. He is ever so courageously deciding to protect the rest of us from their service.
 

Bitek

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Aug 2, 2001
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Definitely not more safe, but I don't know that it's more physically more dangerous for the majority right now.

Certain populations are certainly threatened however.

I'd say we're are carrying tremendous risk right now, but stunning incompetence has preventing materialization. For now...
 
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Definitely not more safe, but I don't know that it's more physically more dangerous for the majority right now.

Certain populations are certainly threatened however.

I'd say we're are carrying tremendous risk right now, but stunning incompetence has preventing materialization. For now...
I'm looking at it from less of a military standpoint and a more overall health of the country, standing in the world, economic safety and security etc... They all apply to the overall safety of the people.

From that angle less seems to be absolutely the case IMHO.
 

Pens1566

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Oct 11, 2005
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Even before Bolton, the answer was "Less". He pushes it into "We're all gonna die" territory.
 

rommelrommel

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LOL way less safe. Putin wouldn't have the balls against Obama to point nukes at Florida but he's outright advertising it and using his lapdog in the White House.

I wouldn't be surprised if he just took Alaska back.

Russian nukes have been pointed at Florida since the 60’s.
 
Feb 16, 2005
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Less safe in every imaginable way.
Less safe from internal destruction
Less safe from external enemies
Less safe from environmental destruction
Less safe from economical destruction.
Literally every single facet of safety has been damaged since Fuckface Von Clownstick took office.
 

Bitek

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I'm looking at it from less of a military standpoint and a more overall health of the country, standing in the world, economic safety and security etc... They all apply to the overall safety of the people.

From that angle less seems to be absolutely the case IMHO.

I mean in that way as well. Trump's incompetence had kept it from being worse than W. Bush still blew trillions on stupid wars and killed hundreds of thousands.

Also rampant lies, corruption and crisis.

Trump is a shitshow, but he hasn't topped that, but fuck all hell he seems like he wants to give it a go
 

Challenger

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One of several theories I have for a future under Traitor-in-Chief: He and Bolton will attack North Korea. North Korea will respond with missiles that hit West Coast metro-plexes. Trump will later declare that he can "really" win the popular vote, now that Democrats on the Left Coast have been incinerated.

Take NYC as long as we're at it.
 
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