Poll: Is Trump and his new Postmaster General sabotaging the Postal Service to effect the upcoming election?

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ondma

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Republicans tend to vote by mail far more than Democrats. Trump's moronic actions-actions which fly in the face of everything that makes USA the unique and successful democracy it is (was?) will almost certainly hurt the GOP as much or more than it hurts the Democrats. In the end democracy and the USA will be hurt the most. Trump, OTOH, will gain by proving what he claims nearly every day-the election is rigged (by him).
That may be true in general, I dont really have the time or resources to look it up. However, this is not a typical election. The main reason for mail in voting in this election is fear of Covid. A huge percentage of covid deniers are republicans/strong Trump supporters. So obviously sabotaging mail in voting will disproportionately affect Democrats/Biden supporters. Trump and his cronies must agree, else he would not be so desperately be trying to discredit/sabotage mail in voting.
 

SMOGZINN

Lifer
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This was on Trump's to-do list even before the mail in voting issue because it is a government agency doing something that a billionaire could be making more money doing.
 

SMOGZINN

Lifer
Jun 17, 2005
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This guy talks about elections being rigged when he's deliberately trying to do the rigging.
We really are not joking when we say that most of the time when he accuses someone else of doing something it is because he is already doing it. He is too narcissistic to consider other peoples motivations, so he just assumes everyone's is the same as his.
 

woolfe9998

Lifer
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That may be true in general, I dont really have the time or resources to look it up. However, this is not a typical election. The main reason for mail in voting in this election is fear of Covid. A huge percentage of covid deniers are republicans/strong Trump supporters. So obviously sabotaging mail in voting will disproportionately affect Democrats/Biden supporters. Trump and his cronies must agree, else he would not be so desperately be trying to discredit/sabotage mail in voting.

You're right and he's wrong.


On Tuesday, Monmouth released a new poll that asked the same question — and it yielded the same overall response. As was the case three months ago, about half of Americans said they intended to vote by mail. But that similarity to May hides the real shift under the hood.
In May, Democrats were about 30 percentage points more likely to say they were very or somewhat likely to vote by mail than were Republicans. And about 4 in 10 Democrats insisted that they were very likely to do so, compared with about half as many Republicans.
Since then, both parties have shifted dramatically, in opposite directions. Democrats are now 50 points more likely to say they’re at least somewhat likely to vote by mail, with fully half saying they’re very likely to do so. Meanwhile, the number of Republicans saying they will probably vote by mail has fallen to 22 percent.

Which is why what Trump is doing is legitimately concerning.
 

soundforbjt

Lifer
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Liked this response:
18 U.S. Code § 1701.

Obstruction of mails generally U.S. Code Whoever knowingly and willfully obstructs or retards the passage of the mail, or any carrier or conveyance carrying the mail, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than six months, or both.

I think Putin gave Trump these ideas, they have talked off record around 8 times this year.
 

eelw

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We do not have a country. It is an enormous error to not have pushed another constitutional crisis even in the midst of the pandemic. It only gets worse from here.
Indeed. Rock bottom has not been reached yet.
 

MtnMan

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Jul 27, 2004
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59 votes so far.... and only Trumpanzie...

How much orange kool-aid do they have coursing through their system. Clearly it is lowered their IQ to about the temperature of an ice cube... does orange kool-aid work like antifreeze when the IQ falls below the freezing point?
 

sportage

Lifer
Feb 1, 2008
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So I guess Trump expects to lose and uncounted ballots would give him a win? Or, say Trump wins outright on election night and Joe claims hundreds of thousands of uncounted ballots would give Joe a win? It could go either way.
 

ivwshane

Lifer
May 15, 2000
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The goal for trump (my conspiracy theory), is to sew so much doubt about the integrity of the election that the results will have to be questioned and biden's landslide victory will be declared illegitimate. I'm not sure what happens from there as there are other safeguards that will stop the Republicans, unless their plan includes rigging the house or senate elections as well.
 

FaaR

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I'm not sure what happens from there as there are other safeguards that will stop the Republicans, unless their plan includes rigging the house or senate elections as well.
It's pretty clear now that short of the military marching in and arresting top GOP leadership in the dead of night and flying them off to Guantanamo there will be no stopping these people or their evil, fascist machinations.

They've decided neither decency nor the law is going to stop them.
 
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