Poll: Is Trump evil?

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jackstar7

Lifer
Jun 26, 2009
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Without question.

Bringing back concentration camps is just 1 of the things he's done that's malignant to society.
 

Perknose

Forum Director & Omnipotent Overlord
Forum Director
Oct 9, 1999
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Whether or not that constitutes 'evil' is hard to say but at a minimum he appears to be a very, very bad person.
I didn't vote but I sure as hell responded.

I believe your "hesitation" to label Trump as evil coincides with mine. "Evil" is such an inflammatory and condemnatory term, brooking no nuance. I don't necessarily like to call anyone evil because it denies their essential humanity, no matter how fucked up they are and no matter how evil the result of their actions.

But Hanna Arendt, who died in 1975 and never wrote about Trump but who wrote extensively about the Nazis, said:

“the greatest evil perpetrated is the evil committed by nobodies, that is, by human beings who refuse to be persons”

^^^ This nails Trump. He's not some evil mastermind, just a narcissistic asshole who lacks empathy, who refuses to be a person!

Why his followers don't care that he obviously, repeatedly lies:

“Mass propaganda discovered that its audience was ready at all times to believe the worst, no matter how absurd, and did not particularly object to being deceived because it held every statement to be a lie anyhow. [Fake News]

... one could make people believe the most fantastic statements one day, and trust that if the next day they were given irrefutable proof of their falsehood, they would take refuge in cynicism; instead of deserting the leaders who had lied to them, they would protest that they had known all along that the statement was a lie and would admire the leaders for their superior tactical cleverness.”

And why it is so difficult for us to confront Trump:

It [evil] is “thought-defying,” as I said, because thought tries to reach some depth, to go to the roots, and the moment it concerns itself with evil, it is frustrated because there is nothing. That is its “banality.” Only the good has depth that can be radical."

Trump is "evil" but only in the most banal sense.
 
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zinfamous

No Lifer
Jul 12, 2006
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He’s not evil hes

1. Not a politician so the crap he does seems very out of place for he position he’s in
2. You disagree with his policies so look for ways to demonize him as an attack on those policies
3. He is massively in your head

yet you:

--create narratives for others to explain away their evidence-based assessments of a fascist pig's behaviors, because you literally have no evidence-based defense of the same fascist pig that you gleefully champion to your own destruction.
 

zinfamous

No Lifer
Jul 12, 2006
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Look at all the OP's threads, [almost every one about Hilary or trannies], and how little content they actually contain. It’s attention seeking and almost spam at this point.

I mean, the irony is literally crawling out of your mouth, facehugging you, and implanting hundreds of little irony larvae back into your GI tract.
 

Pohemi

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Oct 2, 2004
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I don't believe Trump to be evil. He is selfish, self serving, greedy, and stupid. To brand Trump as evil is to brand most of the CEOs and senior executives of large corporations as evil. They are all driven to make the largest profits for their shareholders despite those who get hurt in the process. I don't believe I can classify that as evil but just people who excel in the environment they are in.
Hes certainly egotistical and vindictive, I don't think that theres any argument about that.
Hes certainly dishonest, and shameless about that dishonesty, in his business dealings.
He seems to have questionable morals concerning who is and isnt a target for his sexual desires. (The whole watching under age girls getting changed thing and the grab them by the pussy thing).
He puts his own ego before the welfare of others, even those hes sworn to serve.

You cant argue that he's a good man, I guess that the best he can aim for is amoral. Which is a sad bar to aim for really.

Narcissistic and greedy may not make a person evil, but Trump doesn't just stop there.

Is intentionally working to harm people evil? With the GOP and Trump, the answer is yes. The countless attempts to kill ACA without a replacement is a prime example, among many others. It's all about hurting the "right" people with them.

This. I believe Trump is evil because it's not good enough to just take the cake. He wants the cake for himself and his buddies, but he also wants to pay the baker to take the cake knife and stab anyone who has criticized him, anyone who hasn't done as he wished, anyone who even hints at opposing him in any manner. He is deeply vindictive. Childish behavior does not excuse or justify this shit. He might act like a 10 year old, but he is not one. He is the POTUS. He takes actions that he knows damn well will harm more people than it will help (if it helps anyone at all).

Pointed and intentional harm for the sake of one's own amusement? Yeah. I'd say that's pretty goddamn evil.
 

HomerJS

Lifer
Feb 6, 2002
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Looks like evil runs throughout that family. Heard Don Jr. made fun of Biden last night because he wanted to cure cancer.
 

Pohemi

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Looks like evil runs throughout that family. Heard Don Jr. made fun of Biden last night because he wanted to cure cancer.

Meh, so he's a dick, no surprise there. What would be evil is if Biden found the cure, Donny Jr. bought the intellectual property for it, and then buried the knowledge. You know...kind of like a big pharm corp would do...
 

ImpulsE69

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Jan 8, 2010
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The problem is the 'credibly' part - that is biased. You, I, none of us know for a fact. Considering your background, I am surprised you are so quick to jump on the 'guilty!' bandwagon on a 'hunch'. Until she presses charges, and he is found guilty, he is innocent...or does that only apply to non-whites? He's scum...but even he is permitted innocence until proven guilty.
 
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Sonikku

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Jun 23, 2005
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If there was any doubt before, I certainly hope the insistence of denying children basic access to soap/tooth brushes/beds etc. and forcing them to sleep on concrete has removed any question.
 

HomerJS

Lifer
Feb 6, 2002
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More evidence Trump is evil...

Asks at a rally "what do be do about all these invaders"
Person yells out "shoot them"
Trump laughs and responds "you can get away with it in the panhandle"

Fast forward...El Paso
 

Muse

Lifer
Jul 11, 2001
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Let me put it this way. Evil - Yes/No, isn't granular. "Evil" is one of those words that has an unfortunately wide range of interpretation. "Bad" is another such word, and I hate to see them in usage. In fact, I just used the word "hate," and TBH I have similar issues with that word, famously abused by the POTUS the other day. "Hate has no place in America," or words to that effect.

From William Blake's most famous work, The Marraige of Heaven and Hell:

Without Contraries is no progression. Attraction and Repulsion, Reason and Energy, Love and Hate are necessary to Human existence.

Now, vis a vis Trump being evil... I think it's highly unfortunate for America that this man has any influence beyond him being a developer/investor. He's setting a terrible example for our youth. It's hard not to highly underestimate the damage he's been doing.
 

Muse

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Jul 11, 2001
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More evidence Trump is evil...

Asks at a rally "what do be do about all these invaders"
Person yells out "shoot them"
Trump laughs and responds "you can get away with it in the panhandle"

Fast forward...El Paso
Yeah, I saw that one on OTA network news a couple days ago, post-El Paso massacre. He thought it was amusing, nothing more, it made him smile, well, the biggest smile I've seen on his face. Usually, he just smirks.
 

fleshconsumed

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Feb 21, 2002
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I see quite a few people saying he's not evil, he's just narcissist. He's both. Arguing if he's just a narcissist or evil is trying to make distinction between accidental evil and intentional evil. He is a narcissist, and the practical implication by the dictionary definition is that his actions are evil. I don't like throwing a simplistic label like that on anyone, but he is in fact dictionary definition evil (even if it's an accidental one).
 
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I see quite a few people saying he's not evil, he's just narcissist. He's both. Arguing if he's just a narcissist or evil is trying to make distinction between accidental evil and intentional evil. He is a narcissist, and the practical implication by the dictionary definition is that his actions are evil. I don't like throwing a simplistic label like that on anyone, but he is in fact dictionary definition evil (even if it's an accidental one).

Just like the debate over him being a racist. Anyone trying to say he's not evil is just trying to delude themselves that modern society would tolerate such an evil person. There is absolutely no doubt he is both intentionally and uninentionally evil. He's actively trying to harm other people. That is evil. I don't give a fuck what your hangup on calling evil what it is, but if you're still stuck at that stage of discourse then you're enabling him to perpetrate more evil.

(I'm not saying you were doing that, but I'm tired of these discussions and people going "I don't know if he's actually evil or not, I mean sure he does a lot of evil stuff, but I don't know if that qualifies as evil" and same ones just replace evil with racist because its the exact same discussion.)
 

MagnusTheBrewer

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Jun 19, 2004
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Muse

Lifer
Jul 11, 2001
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Trump isn't evil....he's anti-good.
Also anti political (or scientific) correctness. What IS politically correct? IMO, it's objectively correct. By definition. Many people can't be bothered to sort out any issue (unless they are personally strongly affected) and will knee jerk respond welcome the opportunity to discard their responsibility to ascertain the facts and come to a reasonable position. Why accept an inconvenient "truth" after all? They'd rather laugh it off and take a dumbed down approach.
 

trenchfoot

Lifer
Aug 5, 2000
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What's become more obvious about Trump's total lack of compassion, grace and honesty is how progressively vague, distractive and silent Repubs in the legislature have become in support of their leader. Yet their silence only amplifies the fact that they support him no matter what he does or says. In the classic sense being silent as a method of supporting him is deafening. There is simply no way for the Repubs up on the Hill to escape the "guilt by association" clause that the general public weighs in on in the court of public opinion.

For all practical intent and purpose, it's become impossible to publicly defend Trump without being seen as complicit with and supportive of his crimes inside and outside of office, let alone being seen as a shameless morally bankrupt sycophant, more moronic than Trump himself or worse still, part and parcel of the top-down total corruption of the gov't that Trump has deemed necessary for him to rule the nation as he sees fit.

Sadly, in Trump's eyes, to be accused of being evil is a supreme compliment to him and acknowledgement of the skill and complete lack of empathy it takes for him to be that way.
 
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fskimospy

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Mar 10, 2006
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What's become more obvious about Trump's total lack of compassion, grace and honesty is how progressively vague, distractive and silent Repubs in the legislature have become in support of their leader. Yet their silence only amplifies the fact that they support him no matter what he does or says. There is simply no way for the Repubs up on the Hill to escape the "guilt by association" clause that the general public weighs in on in the court of public opinion.

For all practical intent and purpose, it's become impossible to publicly defend Trump without being seen as complicit with and supportive of his crimes inside and outside of office, let alone being seen as a shameless morally bankrupt sycophant, more moronic than Trump himself or worse still, part and parcel of the top-down total corruption of the gov't that Trump has deemed necessary for him to rule the nation as he sees fit.

Sadly, in Trump's eyes, to be accused of being evil is a supreme compliment to him and acknowledgement of the skill and complete lack of empathy it takes for him to be that way.

I’m not normally a YouTube person but Bill Maher really knocked it out of the park last night as it pertains to Republicans and Trump.

 
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